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Chrisj CMA
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« on: August 20, 2016, 09:59:41 AM »

Judy and I decided to go out and check out our hunting property, The feeder needs attention but that's a job for the next time.  We just wanted to walk the land and I wanted to do a little shooting.  

So, I took the big gun, the one I have been hesitant to shoot since the finger adventure.  It was harder than I anticipated to squeeze off that first round knowing how much recoil goes through the hand.....but, all went well put 5 rounds through a hole the size of a silver dollar at 20yrds.  Then five rounds at the bowling pin that was hanging in the tree, only problem there was the second round was the last one needed to cut the poor tree in half, so it fell over a bit.

Ten rounds was a good enough test.  I saved the other ten in case anyone at my wife's sons place wanted to shoot....they were all busy, so Ill have to be happy with ten.

It felt great to feel the BOOM of that cannon again.

The gun fills up my Ultimate seat on the Valkyrie..........ok, now its Valkyrie related

 
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solo1
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2016, 10:17:58 AM »

Speaking of the Valkyrie, Dan Wesson has just come out with a commander size 9mm 1911 called, ready for this?.............the Valkyrie.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2016, 10:20:52 AM »

Speaking of the Valkyrie, Dan Wesson has just come out with a commander size 9mm 1911 called, ready for this?.............the Valkyrie.


9mm = pea shooter  crazy2

Can you guess which one is the 9mm?



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Jess from VA
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2016, 11:32:03 AM »

Nice artillery there Jeff.   cooldude

Now Wayne, why would you go and show a new fancy 1911 named Valkyrie on here???  tickedoff Grin

Dan Wesson/CZ 1911s are the low end of the all US-made, no mim parts, high end 1911s.  Spendy, but not Les Bauer, Bill Wilson, Ed Brown spendy.  

And the DW Valkyrie apparently comes in both .45 (7rd) and 9mm (8rd).  (commander slide, officers model grip, lightweight aluminum frames:  both 28.8 ozs)


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Robert
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2016, 05:50:34 PM »

Practice makes perfect just like exercise, the more you do it the stronger you get. Sounds like you need some practice time.  cooldude
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2016, 08:52:26 AM »

Practice makes perfect just like exercise, the more you do it the stronger you get. Sounds like you need some practice time.  cooldude

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solo1
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2016, 09:29:25 AM »

Chrisj, maybe he means that you shot only 10 rounds.

As for me, no thanks, I'll stick with my .40 cal.  So far, I've ran 300 rounds through my Sig 320 Sub compact, breaking it in and practicing sight and trigger control.. At .39 cents/round (bought not reloaded) that is certainly cheaper than $2.00 to $3.50/ round for the 500.

As for your five shots inside a silver dollar at 20 yards,  I can't even come close to that  with any of my handguns unless they are shot from the bench, and I've been shooting for over 60 years.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2016, 09:40:43 AM »

Chrisj, maybe he means that you shot only 10 rounds.

As for me, no thanks, I'll stick with my .40 cal.  So far, I've ran 300 rounds through my Sig 320 Sub compact, breaking it in and practicing sight and trigger control.. At .39 cents/round (bought not reloaded) that is certainly cheaper than $2.00 to $3.50/ round for the 500.

As for your five shots inside a silver dollar at 20 yards,  I can't even come close to that  with any of my handguns unless they are shot from the bench, and I've been shooting for over 60 years.

It's a different mindset with the S&W 500.  Each shot is a significant emotional event!  And each shot is quiet expensive.  The last and possibly the most significant difference from most other handguns is that if you have poor mechanics you can hurt yourself pretty easily with 10 or 20 rounds.

That being said, with greater concentration and fewer rounds using a gun that is way more accurate than I am, it's more plausible to put a few rounds on top of each other if you are comfortable with the weapon.

I never did stop shooting the .357 revolvers we have and the mechanics are the same.  I just have been hesitant to experience the amount of recoil that 500 S&W Magnum sends through your hand.  The
357 I carry CCW so, shooting faster with reliable center of mass hits at 10 to 15 yards is the goal.  Acing the target at 20 or 25 yds is fun but, it's not the type of practice I feel is most valuable even though it's fun and I do some of that SA accuracy stuff almost every time.  I ONLY practice single action accuracy with the .500.  I want to be able to hit a hog in the eye at 20yds every time, that's why I bought the dang thing.  Although the best shot is through a front shoulder or up from behind the shoulder if the animal is at the right angle.

Even though the .357 (M 686) is very accurate and less recoil by far than the .500, I never achieve as tight a group with the .357.   One reason is of course I have been shooting more DA than SA, but even during single action I would go through at bare minimum a box of 50, most times a couple boxes since that 50rd box is $17 as opposed to the 500 20rd box for $32-$65.  Therefore, It's too easy to not concentrate on each shot as intensely as with the cannon.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2016, 10:19:51 AM »

The .500 Smith is without doubt the biggest and the best from Smith.

Aside from having a 50 cal revolver, I note that I was watching NETFLIX tv series, 'Alaska Trooper" and a gentleman was fishing a salmon stream with a back up shorter barrel .500 Smith on his hip.  A good choice as salmon streams and bears go together in Alaska.

I understand that the muzzle brake makes a big difference on the Smith.  Without it, it has a severe recoil.

Just as an aside I shot my son's Magnum Research BFR (Big, Fine, Revolver  Grin)  in 45/70 not unpleasant to shoot.  The 45/70 is also a good cartridge but a bullet diameter of .458 not as large in diameter as the .500.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2016, 11:07:26 AM »

Muzzle breaks generally help with muzzle rise/flip, but total recoil remains about the same. 

A big heavy pistol helps, so can gloves.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 03:47:52 PM »

Gee,  I'll stick with my S&W .22 at 199 bucks.   Yah,  won't kill a hog or bear, but less expensive to be plinking. 

Nice to own land in the country hunting wise or just plain any type of land period, besides swampy/non walking/non boating land probably?

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Robert
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2016, 04:24:44 PM »


So, I took the big gun, the one I have been hesitant to shoot since the finger adventure.  It was harder than I anticipated to squeeze off that first round knowing how much recoil goes through the hand.....but,

It felt great to feel the BOOM of that cannon again.



Solo got the idea

I have had guns that I only shot a few rounds through but the apprehension in your post made it sound as if it was a finger issue. You failed to mention that you got in regular practice, Not to mention you liked it.
 
As I get older I have not wanted to loose my ability to do things. I knew exercise was going to be for the rest of my life. So when I get a pain or even hurt I try to work it through and eventually and  usually come out on top and in control. That is what I was talking about. NO PAIN NO GAIN.

I would not like to give up something I want to do because of a injury or age.

I had awhile ago a 454 magnum and with recoil and even the price of ammo I shot that thing till I was satisfied. I loved the sound and especially when you would take it to the range. Nothing sounded like that gun going off. Recoil was pretty good but somehow I seemed to get used to it or just didn't notice.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2016, 04:31:37 PM »

I have a 44 automag desert eagle and its fun to shoot but not near as fun as my 22 mag Ruger. (old style ruger) Blackhawk. Way cheaper too.  cooldude
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2016, 04:41:31 PM »

I pra tice with my 44 mag with 8 3/8" barrel at 50 yards mostly.  Have shot it at 100 and can hold all 6 rounds on an 8 inch paper plate. Granted these are my own handloads which are much hotter than the store bought lite loads. I owned a 500 S&W several years ago. Fun to shoot, I love the recoil, actually feels like you are shooting something. It had a ported and weighted barrel to help with muzzle flip. Kick myself every day for selling it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2016, 04:50:29 PM »

I pra tice with my 44 mag with 8 3/8" barrel at 50 yards mostly.  Have shot it at 100 and can hold all 6 rounds on an 8 inch paper plate. Granted these are my own handloads which are much hotter than the store bought lite loads. I owned a 500 S&W several years ago. Fun to shoot, I love the recoil, actually feels like you are shooting something. It had a ported and weighted barrel to help with muzzle flip. Kick myself every day for selling it.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

You da man thats pretty good  cooldude

Used to do my reloading also was the only way I could get exactly what I wanted. It takes time to learn but once you do its great and you usually get good results. I bet you would be sorry you sold it.

I had the ability to do tactical training with it and it took a bit to get comfortable and put every shot where I wanted under duress, but it was sure fun.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 05:25:10 AM »

I no longer reload since the Dillon is at my son's house. I got my first mule deer with a 7MM mag load done on a Lyman tong tool.  If you remember the nutcracker you're as old as this old geezer  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:19 AM »

I pra tice with my 44 mag with 8 3/8" barrel at 50 yards mostly.  Have shot it at 100 and can hold all 6 rounds on an 8 inch paper plate. Granted these are my own handloads which are much hotter than the store bought lite loads. I owned a 500 S&W several years ago. Fun to shoot, I love the recoil, actually feels like you are shooting something. It had a ported and weighted barrel to help with muzzle flip. Kick myself every day for selling it.

When I bought my first gun in 1981 (a 357 M-19). The ex cop I bought from told me the rule.  Didn't pay it much attention then, but I have seemed to follow it, and I think there's wisdom in the rule.

"Choose carefully when you buy and never sell a gun". That's what he told me.

Funny thing he was breaking his own rule by selling to me, but we are good friends, he knows if he ever wants that great shooter back I would gladly give it back for nothing.
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