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« on: August 22, 2016, 06:36:25 PM »

http://myfox8.com/2016/08/22/florida-school-sends-home-pledge-of-allegiance-waiver/
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 06:40:53 PM »

The Libs are taking this crap too far  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 08:06:00 PM »

The Libs are taking this crap too far  Undecided


Sorry...read the article. Signed into law by the Esteemed Gov Rick Scott

[urlhttp://www.snopes.com/2016/08/22/pledge-of-allegiance-permission-form/][/url]
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 08:42:03 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 02:51:20 AM »

That is bullshit. All because we don't want to hurt the foreigners feelings. F*** the foreigners,  if they don't like how we do things here they can go back where they came from and complain about their own country. You come here, you learn our ways. I would expect to learn your ways if I moved to your country. We need someone with the balls to stop this. Thanks Obama for being a piece of crap and bringing this to my country.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 03:53:06 AM »

I'm not a religious person but this goes right along with taking the picture of Jesus out of certain schools where it's been present for years. Or, changing the name of a sports team because it's thought to offend a certain nationality.  The pledge issue is just a continuation of what's already taken place. Gavin is right, don't  like it here,  get the hell out. I think that applies to anybody. Even with all the crap going on, this is still a great country and place to live!
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 03:53:25 AM »

The Libs are taking this crap too far  Undecided


Sorry...read the article. Signed into law by the Esteemed Gov Rick Scott

[urlhttp://www.snopes.com/2016/08/22/pledge-of-allegiance-permission-form/][/url]


So what if he signed it? That certainly doesn't make it right. Our "Esteemed" POTUS has signed a boat load of stupid, mindless and harmful legislation and executive orders.  crazy2
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 05:18:56 AM »

The Libs are taking this crap too far  Undecided


Sorry...read the article. Signed into law by the Esteemed Gov Rick Scott

[urlhttp://www.snopes.com/2016/08/22/pledge-of-allegiance-permission-form/][/url]


So what if he signed it? That certainly doesn't make it right. Our "Esteemed" POTUS has signed a boat load of stupid, mindless and harmful legislation and executive orders.  crazy2


The point is that it's being blamed on the "liberals taking this shyte too far", when it's YOUR Republican legislature and governor that signed this into law. It has nothing to do with liberals or the left, but still you find a way to drag Obama into it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 05:26:58 AM »


http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=1000-1099/1003/Sections/1003.44.html
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 06:32:44 AM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2016, 07:10:55 AM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist

Says the guy who likely votes Republican every election, including the upcoming one.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 07:21:37 AM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist

Says the guy who likely votes Republican every election, including the upcoming one.
Constitutionalist!   cooldude
Maybe that's because progressive Dems consider our Constitution a "living document", then try to destroy it.  And the current crop of Rinos just sit aside and watch.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 08:44:49 AM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist

Says the guy who likely votes Republican every election, including the upcoming one.

You're damn right Daddie O, i haven't seen a democrat yet that is worthy of President. This will only be my 4th time voting since turning 18.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 10:46:15 AM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist

Says the guy who likely votes Republican every election, including the upcoming one.

Liberals NEVER let the constitution get in the way of what they want
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 11:37:18 AM »

Each is guilty of eroding away what many hold valuable.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2016, 12:36:40 PM »


Did anyone look at the law itself, which I posted a link to?

I think it says that everyone must say the pledge, and respectfully.
The only way you can get out of it is if you have a note from home.
Sending home fill-in-the-blank notes-from-home with everyone
seems a bit much, though... its probably a lawyer thing...

We say the pledge at my SCV camp. It doesn't go well for you
if you aren't respectful during its recital, and we don't take notes
from home.

I like to look over at my buddy Randy to make sure he's saying
"divisible" instead of "indivisible", and we have a hard time not
smiling if he sees me looking, but we don't mean dis-respect
by it...

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2016, 09:09:42 PM »

our republicans are a bunch of spineless pussies. I'm not republican or democrat, i'm a constitutionalist

Says the guy who likely votes Republican every election, including the upcoming one.

Says the guy who will vote for Hillary knowing she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 04:20:46 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 04:54:20 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?

spend 10 minutes reading about her shady background and the conclusion is pretty clear. The law of the land does not pertain to the Clintons.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2016, 04:55:40 AM »

Wonder if I could start a class action law suit or one for pain and suffering because I had to say the pledge all the way through grade school  ?? Years ago?  Roll Eyes  I thought it was part of every day life. Musta been detrimental in some way just can't figure how? Everyone  says I'm a goof that must be why!   Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2016, 05:09:05 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?

spend 10 minutes reading about her shady background and the conclusion is pretty clear. The law of the land does not pertain to the Clintons.
That's not answering the question.
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2016, 05:10:11 AM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439258/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-troubling-questions-influence-peddling-corruption

This State Department for sale (through the Clinton Foundation) is certainly worse than the private email server.  Now we know why the server was private (well, we already knew), and why so many emails were hidden/deleted.  Taking money to give access to (and influence with) the US State Dept cannot be denied as unintentional, like the classified emails.

In addition to other actions, this would be a perfect use for forfeiture.  It might also support a RICO (organized crime) charge, as well as conspiracy, obstruction of justice and false statements to investigators regarding her private server and e-mails.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439258/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-troubling-questions-influence-peddling-corruption

WIKI:  Under RICO, a person who has committed "at least two acts of racketeering activity" drawn from a list of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering if such acts are related in one of four specified ways to an "enterprise". Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity."

When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property, as well as require the defendant to put up a performance bond. This provision was placed in the law because the owners of Mafia-related shell corporations often absconded with the assets. An injunction and/or performance bond ensures that there is something to seize in the event of a guilty verdict.

In many cases, the threat of a RICO indictment can force defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges, in part because the seizure of assets would make it difficult to pay a defense attorney. Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.


But...... that would require an honest Attorney General.

We know Lynch knows about RICO.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/nine-fifa-officials-and-five-corporate-executives-indicted-racketeering-conspiracy-and  
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2016, 05:37:26 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?

spend 10 minutes reading about her shady background and the conclusion is pretty clear. The law of the land does not pertain to the Clintons.
That's not answering the question.

Lol......
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2016, 07:59:05 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?

spend 10 minutes reading about her shady background and the conclusion is pretty clear. The law of the land does not pertain to the Clintons.
That's not answering the question.

Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 08:08:28 AM »



 she is the most corrupt candidate to ever go for the presidency.
I've noticed that gets said on here a lot. How does one come up with the stats comparing candidates immorality thru history ?

spend 10 minutes reading about her shady background and the conclusion is pretty clear. The law of the land does not pertain to the Clintons.
That's not answering the question.

Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
MP, throw em at me. I'll do my best.  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2016, 08:23:34 AM »


Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
MP, throw em at me. I'll do my best.  Smiley

He means, you (we) haven't answered them to his satisfaction.
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2016, 09:03:05 AM »


Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
MP, throw em at me. I'll do my best.  Smiley

He means, you (we) haven't answered them to his satisfaction.
Oh !!! That's a whole different kettle of fish. I don't speak Trumpese.  Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2016, 09:14:55 AM »


Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
MP, throw em at me. I'll do my best.  Smiley

He means, you (we) haven't answered them to his satisfaction.
Oh !!! That's a whole different kettle of fish. I don't speak Trumpese.  Smiley

Ouch.....
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2016, 11:28:54 AM »


Well, in the past, you have not answered a lot of questions, either! LOL
MP, throw em at me. I'll do my best.  Smiley

He means, you (we) haven't answered them to his satisfaction.

No, that is NOT what I meant.  Kindly refrain from telling me what I think.

I have in the past, with no answer at all. You look them up. I am not.
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2016, 11:34:40 AM »

Thread took a 180 degree shift.

So

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports
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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2016, 07:23:13 PM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2016, 08:46:04 PM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2016, 02:43:09 AM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......

You have to admit she should have been charged with the email thing. But once again, Clintons are above the law. You can't deny that fact.just because she didn't get charged doesn't mean she is innocent.
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2016, 07:51:40 AM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......

You have to admit she should have been charged with the email thing. But once again, Clintons are above the law. You can't deny that fact.just because she didn't get charged doesn't mean she is innocent.

You base this on what exactly?  What a right wing talk show host told you?  Were you privy to all the information?  Are you a FBI investigator with access to classified information?  Do you feel you know more than those that are?  Do have more access to information than every congressional hearing that exonerated Hillary?  I can deny your charge that she is guilty, and that is based on the fact that no court, no investigation, no congressional hearing has found any guilt.
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2016, 08:17:24 AM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......

You have to admit she should have been charged with the email thing. But once again, Clintons are above the law. You can't deny that fact.just because she didn't get charged doesn't mean she is innocent.

You base this on what exactly?  What a right wing talk show host told you?  Were you privy to all the information?  Are you a FBI investigator with access to classified information?  Do you feel you know more than those that are?  Do have more access to information than every congressional hearing that exonerated Hillary?  I can deny your charge that she is guilty, and that is based on the fact that no court, no investigation, no congressional hearing has found any guilt.

The bar was lowered and Hillary slithered under it like a snake.  FBI Director Comey admitted that if someone in the future does exactly what she did they would be subject to criminal prosecution.  Many have been prosecuted for far less.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2016, 08:20:51 AM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......

You have to admit she should have been charged with the email thing. But once again, Clintons are above the law. You can't deny that fact.just because she didn't get charged doesn't mean she is innocent.

You base this on what exactly?  What a right wing talk show host told you?  Were you privy to all the information?  Are you a FBI investigator with access to classified information?  Do you feel you know more than those that are?  Do have more access to information than every congressional hearing that exonerated Hillary?  I can deny your charge that she is guilty, and that is based on the fact that no court, no investigation, no congressional hearing has found any guilt.

The bar was lowered and Hillary slithered under it like a snake.  FBI Director Comey admitted that if someone in the future does exactly what she did they would be subject to criminal prosecution.  Many have been prosecuted for far less.
Got a link to him saying that ? I never heard him say that.
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2016, 08:35:43 AM »

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/the-ten-biggest-things-we-learned-from-the-fbis-clinton-e-mail-investigation/

No charges, but should there have been consequences?

    “… this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”

Comey here made it clear that other government officials in similar circumstances are subject to reprimand or punishment.
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2016, 08:40:35 AM »

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/the-ten-biggest-things-we-learned-from-the-fbis-clinton-e-mail-investigation/

No charges, but should there have been consequences?

    “… this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”

Comey here made it clear that other government officials in similar circumstances are subject to reprimand or punishment.
Administrative punishment is a long ways from criminal prosecution. But thanks for responding  cooldude
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2016, 08:47:39 AM »

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/the-ten-biggest-things-we-learned-from-the-fbis-clinton-e-mail-investigation/

No charges, but should there have been consequences?

    “… this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”

Comey here made it clear that other government officials in similar circumstances are subject to reprimand or punishment.
Administrative punishment is a long ways from criminal prosecution. But thanks for responding  cooldude

Your welcome, Meathead.  Tell that to those who've been prosecuted for mishandling top secret information.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2016, 10:34:29 AM »

Right wingers like to say Clinton is involved in a scandal or crime or is corrupt.  Being falsely accused, and being exonerated does not mean you were involved in a scandal.  Has Hillary ever been even charged with a crime, let alone convicted?   

The answer is no. For all the noise, all the hot air, all the millions of tax dollars wasted, NO, she's never been charged with a crime. Not for any lack of trying, mind you. Hell, even the Republican led investigation committees have come out and officially declared that there is nothing there. But that just ain't good enough. I don't know what would be good enough, I think there's nothing good enough to satisfy her detractors.

If they coulda, they woulda......

You have to admit she should have been charged with the email thing. But once again, Clintons are above the law. You can't deny that fact.just because she didn't get charged doesn't mean she is innocent.

You base this on what exactly?  What a right wing talk show host told you?  Were you privy to all the information?  Are you a FBI investigator with access to classified information?  Do you feel you know more than those that are?  Do have more access to information than every congressional hearing that exonerated Hillary?  I can deny your charge that she is guilty, and that is based on the fact that no court, no investigation, no congressional hearing has found any guilt.

 Grin  uglystupid2  Roll Eyes OK, i hope she does become president, you people deserve whatever crap she gives you, I'll just be stuck in the middle of it and i'll personally thank you for ruining our country.
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