John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike
De Pere, WI (Green Bay)
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« on: September 02, 2016, 07:18:07 PM » |
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Are the same frame the Goldwings of comparagle years used? Not sure where I heard it but seems it was at one of the Honda Homecomings one of their resident techs told me the early Valk frames were different from the Wings. Anybody know?
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98valk
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 07:24:40 PM » |
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« Last Edit: September 03, 2016, 01:47:35 PM by 98valk (aka CA) »
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1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2016, 05:25:23 AM » |
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The GL1500 and Valkyrie are totally different in every respect, Frames are not even close. Drive shaft is longer and swing arm narrow. the GL uses a single shock in the rear with an air bladder where the Valk has twin showa shocks. The list of differences are much greater than similarities. Even the engine is different - different valve covers, GL has reverse gear and GL uses a dual V carb where the Valk is 6 individual carbs. Also the GL is harder to work on  |
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Gryphon Rider
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2000 Tourer
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2016, 05:54:26 AM » |
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The GL1500 and Valkyrie are totally different in every respect, Frames are not even close. Drive shaft is longer and swing arm narrow. the GL uses a single shock in the rear with an air bladder where the Valk has twin showa shocks. The list of differences are much greater than similarities. Even the engine is different - different valve covers, GL has reverse gear and GL uses a dual V carb where the Valk is 6 individual carbs. Also the GL is harder to work on You know that a Valkyrie is a GL1500, right? Valkyrie: GL1500C, CT, CF Gold Wing: GL1500A, GL1500SE |
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98valk
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2016, 08:31:37 AM » |
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The GL1500 and Valkyrie are totally different in every respect, Frames are not even close. Drive shaft is longer and swing arm narrow. the GL uses a single shock in the rear with an air bladder where the Valk has twin showa shocks. The list of differences are much greater than similarities. Even the engine is different - different valve covers, GL has reverse gear and GL uses a dual V carb where the Valk is 6 individual carbs. Also the GL is harder to work on only the GL1800 is single shock. |
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798
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John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike
De Pere, WI (Green Bay)
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2016, 08:40:28 AM » |
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Basically, I figured the same way after looking at the two frames on Ebay; the Valk and the 1500 Wing. I'm well aware of engine differences and the gas tank was the first thing that crossed my alleged mind. Then when I compared side photos of the two side by side, differences jumped out at me.
I just found it interesting that many Wing owners have felt for some time that the frames were the same for both bikes and wouldn't take my views seriously. So, I thought I'd get a little more input for the next "discussion" on such an earthshaking topic. As for the 1500 Wings, they used two shocks....one a regular shock, the other an air shock. When I had my '92, I got rid of that mess and installed a set of good Progressive air shocks on both sides. Made Honda's OEM setup look and ride like a hay rack in comparison.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2016, 10:20:08 AM » |
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Actually no the GL1500 is the Goldwing (That is what the G stands for) and the Valkyrie is not a goldwing. Also the GL1500 only has one rear shock and an air bladder. I believe your information is incorrect.
Check out the parts catalogs and you will see the GL has an air bladder on the right and a shock on the left - the air bladder is just a hollow piston and does not act a shock it only adds pneumatic springing
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98valk
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2016, 10:56:29 AM » |
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Actually no the GL1500 is the Goldwing (That is what the G stands for) and the Valkyrie is not a goldwing. Also the GL1500 only has one rear shock and an air bladder. I believe your information is incorrect.
Check out the parts catalogs and you will see the GL has an air bladder on the right and a shock on the left - the air bladder is just a hollow piston and does not act a shock it only adds pneumatic springing
I guess ProCaliber is wrong. right unit with air is called a shock absorber, left unit is called a cushion assy. every magazine I've read, calls both shock absorbers. http://www.procaliber.com/oemparts/a/hon/506c1bbdf870023420a2ee88/rear-shock-absorber |
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2016, 11:53:04 AM » |
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Funny you say that. I have a GL1500C and I have no gas tank under the seat. Mine sits directly in front of rider on top of frame. So when I buy parts, it must be for a Honda Valkyrie , not a GL1500C?  |
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baldo
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2016, 01:26:03 PM » |
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I've always wondered which model is correct when looking at parts websites like Pro Caliber.
GL1599 C AC or CT or CF..I'm assumig T is Tourer and I'S is F?
GL1500C A
GL1500C AC
GL1500CF A
GL1500CF AC
GL1500CT A
GL1500CT AC
I have a Standard. What's the correct ID?
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question....
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98valk
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2016, 01:49:27 PM » |
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Yes Ladies and Gentlemen I left the word "Goldwing" out of my post. It is now corrected. I feel like the Donald and u are the media.  |
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798
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Roidfingers
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2016, 02:07:40 PM » |
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I've always wondered which model is correct when looking at parts websites like Pro Caliber.
GL1599 C AC or CT or CF..I'm assumig T is Tourer and I'S is F?
GL1500C A
GL1500C AC
GL1500CF A
GL1500CF AC
GL1500CT A
GL1500CT AC
I have a Standard. What's the correct ID?
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question....
Gl1500C A is standard, Gl1500C AC is standard California |
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2016, 02:14:50 PM » |
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I've always wondered which model is correct when looking at parts websites like Pro Caliber.
GL1599 C AC or CT or CF..I'm assumig T is Tourer and I'S is F?
GL1500C A
GL1500C AC
GL1500CF A
GL1500CF AC
GL1500CT A
GL1500CT AC
I have a Standard. What's the correct ID?
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question....
T is Tourer F is Interstate A is America (USA) AC is America California Y is Canada (perhaps other countries too) Europe, UK, and Japan probably have their own letters as well. |
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baldo
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2016, 02:19:29 PM » |
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I've always wondered which model is correct when looking at parts websites like Pro Caliber.
GL1599 C AC or CT or CF..I'm assumig T is Tourer and I'S is F?
GL1500C A
GL1500C AC
GL1500CF A
GL1500CF AC
GL1500CT A
GL1500CT AC
I have a Standard. What's the correct ID?
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question....
T is Tourer F is Interstate A is America (USA) AC is America California Y is Canada (perhaps other countries too) Europe, UK, and Japan probably have their own letters as well. Outstanding....Thank you.... |
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Jess Tolbirt
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2016, 06:21:57 PM » |
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many years ago we were discussing the term GL, as it turned out according to Honda, GL means nothing more than just a production model, GL does not mean grand luxury, goldwing lazyboy or anything,,its just GL with a 1500 engine...
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