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Author Topic: Oops: conservative self-agrandizing of being "good for economy" crushed by truth  (Read 846 times)
dinosnake
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« on: September 14, 2016, 06:19:22 AM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-14/manufacturing-jobs-rise-under-democratic-presidents

But not enough people will read.  Even less people will believe, because it isn't "their" truth.

Boy, when put on 'paper', George W. Bush's record is...ugh.  Less said, the better  :'(
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 06:35:03 AM »

Here we go.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 06:37:13 AM »

Here we go.
Yep, everybody get their raingear on. The crap is about to fly.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 06:51:37 AM »

Gee, it's been at least a good couple of hours since we've been reminded that everything wrong is still Bush's fault. So thanks for that.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 06:54:00 AM »

Here we go.

Yep...but you gotta give the people who want to live in communes in sunny California and raise their children with flowery ideals their space too....but then the reality bites:

http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-economy-slowest-recovery-since-1949/

http://www.financialmirror.com/blog-details.php?nid=1727

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/08/painful-watch-weakest-u-s-economic-recovery-since-1949.html

It would be easy to link to a dozen more...
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 07:09:40 AM »

LOL  still grabbing on to "Bush's fault"  How desperate.  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 07:17:40 AM »

Here we go.
Yep, everybody get their raingear on. The crap is about to fly.  Embarrassed

Shouldn't be.  I'm pretty sure the bullshit has already been flung.  I generally don't try to convince people of how wrong they are if they are obviously fully committed to their fallacy.

I don't agree with everything, or even a lot, of what Britman says, but each time he posts there is a strong truth displayed in his signature line.   
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 07:22:42 AM »

A significant chunk of my retirement assets vanished when the TARP ransom was paid out.  I'm still waiting for the breakdown of where that money went, who pocketed how much, what proof we have of its neccesity in hindsight,  etc...

I blame BOTH parties for the most blatant civil robbery in recent history.   NEITHER party prevented it, and I'm sure BOTH sides of the Isle profited imensly on our backs.
Obama inherited Bush policy, Bush inherited Clinton's,  Clinton inherited Bush. LA LA LA la..

Easy to blame your predecessor in cases like this, but decisions and consequences don't happen in neat 4yr cycles  along side election terms.  We still pay today for both mid east policy and nafta decisions made decades ago.  BOTH parties have screwed us hard.  Wake up
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 07:30:32 AM »

Here we go.
Yep, everybody get their raingear on. The crap is about to fly.  Embarrassed

Shouldn't be.  I'm pretty sure the bullshit has already been flung.  I generally don't try to convince people of how wrong they are if they are obviously fully committed to their fallacy.

I don't agree with everything, or even a lot, of what Britman says, but each time he posts there is a strong truth displayed in his signature line.   
There is some truth in just about everybody. I'm not weighing in on this though. It's been put out there before. People are going to conform their own facts.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 09:23:25 AM »

I really liked GW Bush, I thought he had a pretty wife. I really liked Romney for the same reason. I'll probably vote for Trump....again, for the same reason. (be sure to take all that seriously)  Wink

I'll definitely not vote for Hillary, she be ugly. Ugly goes all the way to the core and in her case comes out through her mouth.  Shocked   Grin
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 01:49:53 PM »

I get the Bloomberg mag in the mail and goes directly in the trash. Why would I read it online.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 06:10:44 PM »

Here we go.
Yep, everybody get their raingear on. The crap is about to fly.  Embarrassed

Shouldn't be.  I'm pretty sure the bullshit has already been flung.  I generally don't try to convince people of how wrong they are if they are obviously fully committed to their fallacy.

I don't agree with everything, or even a lot, of what Britman says, but each time he posts there is a strong truth displayed in his signature line.   

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 06:38:44 PM »

I think you are declaring a victory to early, the article is really talking about Nafta and manufacturing jobs, not the overall health of the economy. I did read it through and it was interesting but very one sided. I say this not because I am partial to any president or party.

   Articles like this give claim to those who dont really look beyond the headline and know the facts to exclaim things that are not really true. Anyone can present one area and say its great but to make an assumption based on this one area and say the whole economy was great is evil and not telling the truth. I know it sounds dramatic but why would you present a one sided article except to bolster a personal view. It boarders on propaganda which is wholly destructive.

Please dont be fooled by this kind of reporting its not factual, its does not support a true picture and allows people to come away with the wrong ideas and assumptions. A half truth is worse than a lie since it contains a small amount of truth and sounds credible till the facts are shown.

I also doubt if you would be open to reason and truth, so I say look at other areas of the economy in the time frame the article is suggesting. Look at the overall buying power of the average worker since all are not factory workers. Look at the monetary supply since it gives us inflation and devaluation of our buying power. That translates into us having less buying power with more money. So you see its not one factor that goes into the equation for the health of the economy or the good of the people. 

I will also say that the Democratic party is not the same party it was in times past. Its a whole new party and is very close to being socialistic.

Below is an article from Bloomberg which states just the opposite of the article you posted.

Why Factory Jobs Are Shrinking Everywhere
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-28/why-factory-jobs-are-shrinking-everywhere

A report from the Boston Consulting Group last week suggested the U.S. had become the second-most-competitive manufacturing location among the 25 largest manufacturing exporters worldwide. While that news is welcome, most of the lost U.S. manufacturing jobs in recent decades aren’t coming back. In 1970, more than a quarter of U.S. employees worked in manufacturing.

                            By 2010, only one in 10 did.

Did you get that 1 in 10 so that means that only 10 percent of the workers are factory workers,down from 1 in 4. Not only does this say O a democrat has lowered the amount of factory workers but saying the economy as a whole was doing great does not present a true story.

Your opening headline would be great for the Enquirer but I hope there would be truth and provable facts to back up the headline.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 08:06:39 PM »

I get the Bloomberg mag in the mail and goes directly in the trash. Why would I read it online.  Embarrassed
Why get it only to throw it away ?
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 09:27:08 PM »

I get the Bloomberg mag in the mail and goes directly in the trash. Why would I read it online.  Embarrassed
Why get it only to throw it away ?
They send it to me. Never paid for a subscription.
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 05:40:59 AM »

I Was thinking about this article and maybe what we see is actually the fundamental differences in the ideology of the parties. Dems see people as factory workers, where the repubs see people self energized, self employed and free. It would support their concept of they provide the jobs and are the US where the Repubs see it as the people are the goverment.  Now I cannot prove this but it seems as good an explanation as any.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 12:31:12 PM »

HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTED THAT THE OP JUST DID A DRIVE BY POST ?  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 02:22:44 PM »

HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTED THAT THE OP JUST DID A DRIVE BY POST ?  Lips Sealed

Noticed that pretty quick, that the OP had never reposted.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 02:48:20 PM »

In 1970, more than a quarter of U.S. employees worked in manufacturing.

                            By 2010, only one in 10 did.

Did you get that 1 in 10 so that means that only 10 percent of the workers are factory workers,down from 1 in 4. Not only does this say O a democrat has lowered the amount of factory workers but saying the economy as a whole was doing great does not present a true story.



Are you trying to say that in his first two years, Obama has somehow single-handedly eliminated hundreds of thousands of mfg jobs? That horse has been out of the barn for decades, my friend.
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