News and the truth

[f6john]

    My father-in-law, who passed away a few years ago at age 90 was a good honest hardworking man who would have probably found himself in the deplorable basket with many of us. He wasn't without his faults,  and one of the faults that I had the most fun with was, if he heard something on the 5 or 10 o'clock news it was fact and you could take it to the bank as the truth. That hasn't been the case for decades now and it's only getting worse. Journalists are developing a reputation that is just behind the politicians and a little above a buy here pay here used car salesman.

     Every time I see a post with a link to a news/media source I have to chuckle a little bit. While I know we need the media to help us see what's going on, we also need to blend a lot of sources to get a balanced idea of what the truth may be. My bullshit meter is totally worn out this election year with all the bobbing and dodging that has been going on just like my boy Chuck Todd at Meet the Press manipulating a poll to make Hilliary look stronger that that she really is. Tim Russert must be turning over in his grave.

     Somebody at one of the major networks needs to make the decision that they are going to be a news organization that reports the facts and not have a political agenda. Where is Walter Cronkite when you need him?

[Bighead]

AND THATS THE WAY IT IS

[Crackerborn]

A news flash: Walter Cronkite was an unabashed liberal. That did not reflect on his ability to report the news as it happened rather than trying to spin the news to his political viewpoint. That was for the editoral segment. Our current batch of news sources can only editorialize it seems.

[solo1]

I wonder if the bias is just more blatant these days.

The hand on my bull crap meter is fubar.

[Jess from VA]

Of course it is the owners of big media who are principally at fault, and serious enemies of my country.

At what point does free speech become criminal enterprise?

[Crackerborn]

Here in Wisconsin, we have first hand knowledge of the left and their attempts to squash free speech. Sadly, not one local mass media news source even will report this event that should concern every citizen regardless of political leaning.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425178/wisconsin-john-doe-investigations

[old2soon]

"they"-gubmint- don't come in and grab OUR Rights all at once.  "they"-gubmint-just keep chippin away at em. Kinda like a cake-slice here piece there for ya knows It yer outa cake.  YUP-ya can ALWAYS bake anudder cake-HOW ya gonna git yer RIGHTS back?  RIDE SAFE.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Here in Wisconsin, we have first hand knowledge of the left and their attempts to squash free speech. Sadly, not one local mass media news source even will report this event that should concern every citizen regardless of political leaning.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425178/wisconsin-john-doe-investigations

I remember Rachel Maddow reporting about it months back. I haven't seen anything about it in a long time though.

[Alpha Dog]

My growing up years Chet Huntley and David  Brinkley were the main stays at NBC that we listened to every night.  To this day I could not tell you in which political camp they were and that is the way it was back then and the way it should be now.  We did not receive CBS in Midland, MI ( except for Sunday Detroit Lions games that were telecast from Cadillac, MI when they were allowed to up the power )

An example from yesterday when slick Willy forgot his meds or something and talked to CBS's dimwit Charlie Rose.  He said Hillary had these siezure type bouts frequently, then caught himself, pursed his lips, rolled his eyes a bit and said well not frequently maybe a couple of times and blah blah blah.   CBS played this on there nightly news however they scrubbed out the first part frequently comment.  They are getting hammered for it and said they needed to edit it  for time constraints, which was in effect saving 3 seconds and completely transformed what the original interview was.

Bravo CBS.  That is why I quit paying any attention to you, ABC, and NBC circa 1980, and it is when they quit being serious and un biased news organizations.

[Crackerborn]

I remember Rachel Maddow reporting about it months back. I haven't seen anything about it in a long time though.

Many of the "sealed" documents are printed in The Guardian today. The State Supreme Court allowed the investigators to keep the illegally seized documents under seal pending a possible appeal to the Federal Supreme Court. While every court has so far deemed the prosecutors acted unconstitutionally, the prosecutor in the case has decided to waste more tax money on an appeal. There is no recourse for those harassed since a DA is immune from civil action under state statutes.  I wonder if some ambitious reporter can unearth the source of the leak, since that source violated a court order and is now liable for both criminal and civil action. Our local fish wrap will reprint what The Guardian has already printed I am sure.

[hukmut]

News "reporters" dramatize and aggrandize to try to "up" the ratings. Facts tend to get in the way and

dull the "show" between the commercials.




Ride safe y'all...

[f6john]

A news flash: Walter Cronkite was an unabashed liberal. That did not reflect on his ability to report the news as it happened rather than trying to spin the news to his political viewpoint. That was for the editoral segment. Our current batch of news sources can only editorialize it seems.

    Exactly my point. I don't care what your personal leanings are, just report the facts. That he was or was not a liberal does not change my opinion of him.

[fudgie]

That's why I listen to Brian Williams. Cause he was there.

[Jess from VA]

News "reporters" dramatize and aggrandize to try to "up" the ratings. Facts tend to get in the way and

dull the "show" between the commercials.

1)  Yes, they exaggerate and exacerbate and excite to create interest and sell their brand (network/paper).  Thus the well earned moniker of Disaster Television.  This may up the viewership.  That is bad enough, but..

2)  They now are now fully committed members of the DNC/comintern/socialist/liberal/globalist movement and spew perpetual propaganda to further the cause, abandoning any semblance of objective news reporting (PBS/NPR still tries, halfheartedly, to make it look like they are objective, but they aren't).  This is much worse than simple exaggeration.  It does not up the viewership, and they don't care one bit (nor do the wealthy owners of big media).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM   

[Romeo]

In my eyes, this is our biggest problem. I really don't see how our republic can survive with out an impartial, critical free press. It appears to me the professors have decided that the only way to defeat freedom is to "teach" their students they can affect change by spinning everything to their way of thinking.

[The emperor has no clothes]

In my eyes, this is our biggest problem. I really don't see how our republic can survive with out an impartial, critical free press. It appears to me the professors have decided that the only way to defeat freedom is to "teach" their students they can affect change by spinning everything to their way of thinking.

I've not been to college, so I can't really speak to professors. But I'm not sure. There is no doubt the media is just as partisan as our country. But that just reflects us as do our elected officials. I wish I was a historian and knew how newspapers and press acted in the 16th, 17th, 18th centuries. It's going to be up to us to not be partisan and think for ourselves.

[MP]

They used to be just as biased.  It is just that there was no way to find out that they were!  Imagine if MSNBC and CNN were our ONLY sources today!  Would we know they are so far left?  No.

[The emperor has no clothes]

They used to be just as biased.  It is just that there was no way to find out that they were!  Imagine if MSNBC and CNN were our ONLY sources today!  Would we know they are so far left?  No.

We all have free mind.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Actually, I think social media and the internet including boards such as this have protected America to a large extent from the manipulative monster our news media has become.

I would bet that most Americans no longer watch the news or read newspapers. I'm not saying this is good, but I do think it's probably the truth. Social media has completely marginalized the news media and I think that's a good thing. It must be infuriating to obama and hillary that we are able to talk among ourselves and share snippets of the truths they try to hide from us. It must infuriate them that the NRA is able to reach citizens with the facts concerning the attacks on our rights in spite of the media's attempts to dupe citizens into giving up their rights.

The humor alone being passed among citizens on facebook concerning hillary is very heartening.

I think this is obviously why the president is trying to turn control of the internet over to countries who do not have a 1st Amendment just before the election. There will be time to stifle anti-hillary dialog and pro freedom dialog but not time to find a way to fight it in the courts before the election. Obama's timing on this is sadly brilliant. And, of course, if hillary wins she will own the courts so there will be no legal recourse and main stream media will again be the only game in town.

There is something afoot in congress to stop this power give-a-way. I'm going to find out what it is and call my government representatives tomorrow and ask them to block obama's internet move. Hopefully, I won't be alone.

[Hooter]

The way I see it is we are doing the right thing.  We are all setting down during the news, maybe that isn't  far enough? Would taking a knee get our point across?  

   The news is annoying to say the least. Embellish everything on every level.  The news is pretty transparent and calling BS isn't tough. As long as I can see it happen in a clip I tend to believe it more than just a verbal report.

   I have more trouble with local news than national news at times. If a person dies under whatever circumstances our local news people want an interview with the family.

   First question they ask is: "how do you feel about this", or something of the like. Leave these people alone! This happens here all the time and chaps my ass.

   All in all, the news has become annoying rather than informative.  I like the weather just for ride purposes. We know the weather people are spot on as well.

[solo1]

This is kind of a small irritation but just another 'cut'

Our evening newspaper is conservative but, unfortunately has a small budget. A good (bad) example
are stories about Trump.  The newspaper relies on the AP to furnish stories about Trump.  A snide bias against Trump is very evident in these AP stories and don't reflect the newspaper's  editorial.

Now multiply this many times for other small  conservative newspapers.

TV wise, Fox News, in my mind, seems to uncover truths. Of course they are spit on by CNN, MSNBC, etc.  Fox again, seems to have investigative reporters who do their job right.

In fairness, I don't watch "Hannity" as he fishes for negative remarks about the Left in extreme.  Bill O'Reilly is a PITA as he interrupts well thought out answers from his guests.

[G-Man]

An example from yesterday when slick Willy forgot his meds or something and talked to CBS's dimwit Charlie Rose. 

How about when NBC doctored the phone tapes to make Zimmerman look like a white Hispanic stalking a choir boy in order to kill him?

[Romeo]

The thing is, I for one, can not and do not trust anything I hear or see anymore, as far as the media goes. I dont have the time or the patience to do all the research myself, and I fear I am more the rule, rather than the exception. When the public is uninformed, its easy for the folks in power to get out of control. We dont hold our elected officials accountable because we dont know what to believe anymore, so we do nothing.