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[Jersey mike]

I'll let the video and the updated news report speak for themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-video-shows-officer-pepper-spraying-maryland-girl-120741841.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKPEa7_dHLs

Now, did the cops really need to spray her? Who knows really, but with a mouth like she has she's lucky that's all she got IMO.

I found it interesting that she waited for the police to get there to kick up a real fuss and try and leave but I guess since she had pot on her she was scared they would search her.

If she would have just played it cool no one would be any wiser to the pot probably.

[old2soon]

Makes me wonder how many of the other "incidents" go back to or turn bad cuz the folks REFUSE to follow the ORDERS of the L E Os??  THAT Question-Refusing to comply with Police Orders-would be VERY High if I was an Investigator. Over the years I had a couple of L E Os pushin the envelope BUT I bit my lip and drove off After they said it was okey dokey to go. IF the folks wanna how off the machismo when a L E O has ya pulled over is NOT the time fer da macho act! Bea tough nut or a dumb ass AFTER they release you! Wonder would this have been anything had the L E Os been black? RIDE SAFE.

[Hooter]

To have any interaction with a juvenile weather it be for investigative purposes  or this type of situation you need parental consent or a parent present. But in order for that to happen and the situation to be handled smoothly you need some information. I don't think that was going to happen from the start?

Was she hurt?  Don't know wasn't there. But by her actions and verbal display I would say if so, not much. Still again, she can't be looked at by medics without parental consent / presence unless her physical condition warrants immediate action. No person can be forced to go to the hospital unless  immediate treatment dictates so. There is a bunch to this.

All this young lady had to do was cooperate, that was all!  Instead, she opted to make a scene and draw attention to herself and the situation. This is a "no win" situation for officers or her. She has created a problem for herself and officers trying to do their job. This has turned into a bad situation all the way around! Escalation is inevitable!

There is an old saying in law enforcement : "things that start out like crap usually end like crap". This is one of those situations. In today's society and a them vs us mentality the interaction with law enforcement is getting worse with terrible retaliation.  

   Officers can't just walk away. If they had and say she "does" have a concussion or closed head injury, she goes home and collapses or worse yet dies, then what? So upon arrival by officers there are some decisions to be made that benefit her. Due to her uncooperative mode this whole simple investigation turns bad.

  Did officers over react? Maybe, but dammit you get tired of this crap and a lack of respect. She would have been let go in a matter of minutes if she would have just cooperated. That's the bottom line. As an officer I would have wanted to been there to make my own decision about what to do. Not arm chair quarterback it.

   Take this as a comparison. You good people with kids. Say you tell or ask your child to do something and they tell you to fu*k off. How long are you going to take it? This goes on day after day in law enforcement. I know they are supposed to be above it all, but how long?

[dreamaker]

My Father told me at an early age and again just before I started driving.  He told me “No matter how rude or pissy a police officer may get with you, never talk back and no matter what always treat them with respect, even if they don’t give it back to you”   With that advice, I am 69yrs old and have never had an issue with a police officer. So point is if you listen to their instructions, and not act like an animal, that person did in that video, you should have minimal issues. When you act like you have all the rights in the world, and can do what you want, and think know one around has rights, don’t expect to be a good day. Don't expect respect, if you don't give it.  Keep in mind you are not the one with targets on your back like the police these days. Do what they ask, and have a good day.

[Hooter]

I just see it as you, you get what you give, and your father was a wise man. It's the same way I was brought up. Then I spent 28 yrs in the job. I treated people with respect until they gave me reason not to.

   I loved my job and the people in my area. I met more good people than bad. It's a shame but the bad are job security as a rule. In the full scheme of things officers spend their careers dealing with the negative. Thats our job! It's hard to stay positive in that atmosphere but we do the best we can. The offices that don't are typically the ones you read about or they go bad. Its time for those officers to go.

[Rams]

Attitude, definitely that child needs an attitude adjustment.

Personally, I'm think'n a lack of good parenting is to blame but, obviously don't have any proof (other than that video).   

After consideration, I've changed my opinion.    The fault clearly lies with the driver of the black Honda.   How dare he proceed through an intersection (green light or not) with this poor child coming on her bicycle.   Yep, put him in the slammer.       Where's that sarcasm font when ya need it?

[hukmut]

Yes, parenting. We are all products of our parents.

[cookiedough]

   Take this as a comparison. You good people with kids. Say you tell or ask your child to do something and they tell you to fu*k off. How long are you going to take it? This goes on day after day in law enforcement. I know they are supposed to be above it all, but how long?

problem with nowadays is parents cannot do what we had to endure with a belt or hard whack across the head/body from our parents in a generation long gone.    I very rarely backtalked to my dad since knew better.  Kids nowadays think they are not touchable when some should be. 

biggest thing I have had is when my 15 year old boy does not want to come along with us and stay home not going somewhere or tell him to empty the trash or help me mow the yard/pick up sticks/help shovel snow.  I do not think that is asking for much to do?  I do not give him a 5-10 dollar allowance weekly but then again,  he does not do much to earn it either. 

[dreamaker]

Also you can blame what you want, it does not change what is happening and what will happen in the future, basically the damage is dome. I came from stick parents, and the way I see it as bad parenting is not the only contributor to the problem. You have to add to the equation, in a big way is the Media, they are exposed to and it should have been the parents obligation to teach the children how to properly process what they are watching. We had the Roadrunner and The Three Stooges and so on, and most of us did act like what we watched.  Newer generations, parents got lazy and used TV, Video Games, Computers, tablets and Cell/Smart Phone and use as seroget babysitters and this is what we end up with. That little girls attitude is not isolated, I find it to be very common attitude around here, you think I am wrong, read Detroit News daily.

[Rams]

Also you can blame what you want, it does not change what is happening and what will happen in the future, basically the damage is dome. I came from stick parents, and the way I see it as bad parenting is not the only contributor to the problem. You have to add to the equation, in a big way is the Media, they are exposed to and it should have been the parents obligation to teach the children how to properly process what they are watching. We had the Roadrunner and The Three Stooges and so on, and most of us did act like what we watched.  Newer generations, parents got lazy and used TV, Video Games, Computers, tablets and Cell/Smart Phone and use as seroget babysitters and this is what we end up with. That little girls attitude is not isolated, I find it to be very common attitude around here, you think I am wrong, read Detroit News daily.

While I do agree that society as a whole, the media and television included have to share the blame, it still comes down to parenting and teaching children that they are responsible for their decisions and actions.    Some how Conservative values became the wrong way for many.    Guess what.........   

[dreamaker]

Also you can blame what you want, it does not change what is happening and what will happen in the future, basically the damage is dome. I came from stick parents, and the way I see it as bad parenting is not the only contributor to the problem. You have to add to the equation, in a big way is the Media, they are exposed to and it should have been the parents obligation to teach the children how to properly process what they are watching. We had the Roadrunner and The Three Stooges and so on, and most of us did act like what we watched.  Newer generations, parents got lazy and used TV, Video Games, Computers, tablets and Cell/Smart Phone and use as seroget babysitters and this is what we end up with. That little girls attitude is not isolated, I find it to be very common attitude around here, you think I am wrong, read Detroit News daily.

While I do agree that society as a whole, the media and television included have to share the blame, it still comes down to parenting and teaching children that they are responsible for their decisions and actions.    Some how Conservative values became the wrong way for many.    Guess what.........   

 

[dragonslayer]

Shows a great upbringing.15 years old with dope fighting with leos.Supervision at home probably non existent ,but they sure come out of the woodwork when something happens,oh a law suit,for my poor childs rough handleing.She's such a good girl,what dope,thats not hers its mine.

[G-Man]

Yes, parenting. We are all products of our parents.

     


In another thread I stated that just like racism between folks of different color, people are taught to dislike the folks who have sworn to uphold the law.

[old2soon]

Growin up I stood to eat a meal or three. Never robbed anyone or anything. One of my Daughters informed me she was too big to spank! Lets just say she was dissuaded of THAT particular notion. To my knowledge NONE of my six children are serious law breakers. Had the young "lady" instead said when asked-my name is Jane Doe and here's my I D card and would you PLEASE call my Mom or Dad THIS entire incident would NOT have been an "incident". BUT I was raised in an entirely different era or time frame. I also KNEW where I grew up you piss off the L E Os you stood a cursed good chance of gittin "tuned up".  Nuttin that would show BUT they-L E Os-would git yer "attention", Course-no cell phone cameras then and barristers weren't lookin to sue the Cops. RIDE SAFE.

[solo1]

Parents today either don't care (they are the 2nd or 3rd generation with no responsibility) or their kids are their 'buddies" and shouldn't be taught responsibility for their actions as it'll stunt their psyche.

Cell phones, cameras, too many lawyers, not enough clients, AND the latest, the "black Lives matter" started because people refuse to accept the legal result.  Now many have found a way to refuse responsibility, blame the cops instead.!

Of course, persons of authority (LEO's) are taking the brunt because they represent our "ain't fair society" and the legal system.

We've come a long way since when, as a kid, I knew nothing and my Dad educated and tuned me occasionally by beating my arse like a tomtom.  ...............I learned!

Now, with all the cameras around, look out. "Tune' your kid and you'll be in jail.

[dreamaker]

My Dad only hit me three times and I deserved it, he didn’t hurt me, he just hurt my pride. To this day people don’t see the problems at the end of their noses, for example The Simpsons on TV, and parents just can’t see why their children are so obnoxious and disrespectful.  They don’t see the connection. I have seen commercials where children are running the parents not the parents running the children, like kicking the back of a seat while the parent was driving. If I would have done that I would be walking on stumps right now.  Point is when children see that stuff on media; they get the impression that may be normal behavior.  We were taught to respect, Policemen, Firemen, Postal Person, Doctors, Clergy and anyone older, no matter how mean they may be!!

[Hooter]

   I didn't have to wait for my dad. My mother would wear you out if you miss behaved. IMHO, parental attitude and the attitude perpetrated by the media of today is a bunch of it. She may be bi-racial but what part of that does she choose to follow?