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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 04:54:52 PM » |
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This stuff is over my head. I would like to hear what Serk and Hubcap have to say about it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2016, 06:20:44 PM » |
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Please - the unknowing are blowing this up bigger than it really is.
What has been turned over to ICANN is control of the "root zone" of the DNS archetecture. The Commerce department had a contract with ICANN to run this, which expired on Sep 30, 2016.
Practical changes in DNS for now - none.
The US government still controls the one for .gov and .mil, and whoever had the other ones (.com, .biz , .net, etc) still control those. Same for the domain zones for individual counties, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2016, 07:55:48 PM » |
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Please - the unknowing are blowing this up bigger than it really is.
What has been turned over to ICANN is control of the "root zone" of the DNS archetecture. The Commerce department had a contract with ICANN to run this, which expired on Sep 30, 2016.
Practical changes in DNS for now - none.
The US government still controls the one for .gov and .mil, and whoever had the other ones (.com, .biz , .net, etc) still control those. Same for the domain zones for individual counties, etc.
I thought it sounded a little fishy. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2016, 12:40:37 PM » |
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This is how it begins. Give away a small piece and soon they come back for more and more.
This may be a bad comparison but we taught other nations how to drill for oil and got nothing in return and look where we are now, dependent on other nations for oil.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2016, 12:45:44 PM » |
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This is how it begins. Give away a small piece and soon they come back for more and more.
This may be a bad comparison but we taught other nations how to drill for oil and got nothing in return and look where we are now, dependent on other nations for oil.
We own the Internet ? |
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2016, 12:53:25 PM » |
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Of course we do! Al Gore invented it after all.....  Craig |
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2016, 01:02:48 PM » |
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Of course we do! Al Gore invented it after all..... Craig Weisenheimer......... |
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 01:12:42 PM » |
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Of course we do! Al Gore invented it after all..... Craig Well in that case, can we stop the Nigerians from pestering me about a million dollars I could earn ? |
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 02:11:24 PM » |
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This is how it begins. Give away a small piece and soon they come back for more and more.
This may be a bad comparison but we taught other nations how to drill for oil and got nothing in return and look where we are now, dependent on other nations for oil.
We own the Internet ? From what I can surmise, in a round about sort of way we did. For us to give away oversight in one area, to me shows ownership. how will this give away affect the web in the future is yet to be known, but why give away oversight to a group which includes nations we are not on friendly ground with especially with the amount of cyber snooping that is going on. I'm not a computer specialist (my knowledge is not above beginner level) but with cyber security being a huge national security issue was this a good idea. Perhaps my lack of knowledge in this area is the issue for my concern and I'm wrong altogether. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2016, 05:12:49 PM » |
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I AM a computer specialist - I've been working in computer networking since my days in the Navy in 1993-95. I've seen the Internet grow from something used only by DOD and academics, using Lynx (a text only browser) and early versions of IE / netscape, where ordinary people accessed the Internet via DIALUP modems. I've probably forgotten more about networking than most people ever learn.
With my horn tooting done -
What was "given away" was control of the Root zone of the Domain Naming System. DNS (in simple terms) converts "human friendly names" to "computer friendly IP addresses". This is done through numerous tables on many, many servers. When your client makes a DNS query, it checks with the servers you have configured with (most people use DHCP - that's a WHOLE 'nuther conversation) and that server will either return the IP address of your destination, or make a query on your behalf to another server closer to the "root zone". Eventually, the DNS system "finds" the IP address of the server and it gets sent back to you. The root zone is the "core" of the internet - the place of all the addressing information transfer from one domain to another.
And that, people, is a VERY BRIEF overview of DNS and how this zone control transfer is really a non-issue.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2016, 05:34:20 PM » |
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I AM a computer specialist - I've been working in computer networking since my days in the Navy in 1993-95. I've seen the Internet grow from something used only by DOD and academics, using Lynx (a text only browser) and early versions of IE / netscape, where ordinary people accessed the Internet via DIALUP modems. I've probably forgotten more about networking than most people ever learn.
With my horn tooting done -
What was "given away" was control of the Root zone of the Domain Naming System. DNS (in simple terms) converts "human friendly names" to "computer friendly IP addresses". This is done through numerous tables on many, many servers. When your client makes a DNS query, it checks with the servers you have configured with (most people use DHCP - that's a WHOLE 'nuther conversation) and that server will either return the IP address of your destination, or make a query on your behalf to another server closer to the "root zone". Eventually, the DNS system "finds" the IP address of the server and it gets sent back to you. The root zone is the "core" of the internet - the place of all the addressing information transfer from one domain to another.
And that, people, is a VERY BRIEF overview of DNS and how this zone control transfer is really a non-issue.
 my time in the Navy was also in computers. Data Systems Technician. But it was while dinosaurs still roamed the earth, 78-82. I worked on the UYK 5000, as big as a Volkswagen Bus. And probably as powerful as the iPad that I am typing on now. |
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