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Why not urine test any/all presidential contenders?
We do it to the entire military, and we're talking about their commander in chief.
Just don't let the FBI/DOJ test it.
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We do it to the entire military, and we're talking about their commander in chief.
Just don't let the FBI/DOJ test it.
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Hillary Clinton is heavily medicated in attempts to stave off the symptoms of her Parkinson's. Those medicines could give the impression that someone is "pumped up" and then show apparent fatigue as they wear down.
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Hillary Clinton is heavily medicated in attempts to stave off the symptoms of her Parkinson's. Those medicines could give the impression that someone is "pumped up" and then show apparent fatigue as they wear down.
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Hillary Clinton is heavily medicated in attempts to stave off the symptoms of her Parkinson's. Those medicines could give the impression that someone is "pumped up" and then show apparent fatigue as they wear down.
I wasn't aware she has Parkinson's . What kind of medication do they give to hide the symptoms ? There are several drugs all with significant side effects. A quick search on the internet will reveal several sources that confirm the signs. I realize there are some who will deny these assessments. I believe them and I believe time will confirm them. It's fairly well along. If Hillary is elected this November her VP will assume the presidency within two years. |
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I wasn't aware she has Parkinson's . What kind of medication do they give to hide the symptoms ? There are several drugs all with significant side effects. A quick search on the internet will reveal several sources that confirm the signs. I realize there are some who will deny these assessments. I believe them and I believe time will confirm them. It's fairly well along. If Hillary is elected this November her VP will assume the presidency within two years. I am not a doctor and I only stayed at the Springhill Suites. But my Father in Law was diagnosed with Parkinson's 6 years ago. Put on different medications, the told he didn't have it. 3 different doctors in 6 years can't come up with the same diagnosis. So that said, I think a TV diagnosis would be problematic. But who knows, you might be correct.  |
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Parkinson is not good. One of my guys has it. He started on steroids. He said if he gets any worse he will quit the fire department and go to work in a malt shop. He makes light of it but he is concerned.
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If Hillary is elected this November her VP will assume the presidency within two years.
That really has me concerned, Tim Kaine struck me as a total moron in the debate. I think Trumps call for a drug test was a good idea to keep Hillarys illness in the spotlight although we all know it will never happen. Or the other scenario is there is a drug test but the results went missing, the dr was killed, there was no problem, and we find that the dr was a heavy contributor to the Clinton slush fund. QUESTION? OK so if Hillary is in good health why does she travel with a Neurologist dressed like a secret service agent, and why did he jump on stage and inject her with something? Mysterious man dressed as Secret Service agent rushes to Hillary's side during 'incident' The man appears to be carrying a Diazepam Pen. The drug Diazepam is used to treat seizures, anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms. Oladotun A. Okunola, M.D. Dr. Okunola joins the prestigious Neurology group, Neuroscience Center of Northern New Jersey, to provide a variety of specialized care. He specializes in epilepsy, clinical neurophysiology, and sleep medicine. Dr. Okunola completed medical school at Howard University College of Medicine. He stayed and completed his internship and neurology residency at Howard University Hospital, Washington, DC. He received fellowship training in epilepsy and clinical neurophysiology at Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC. He also completed a sleep medicine fellowship at Norwalk Hospital, Connecticut. As part of his fellowship training in clinical neurophysiology/epilepsy, he focused on intraoperative and epilepsy monitoring; EEG and EMG. As a sleep specialist, he diagnoses and treats sleep related disorders such as daytime sleepiness (hypersomnolence), insomnia, narcolepsy, obstructive, central, and complex sleep apnea, etc. Dr. Okunola is board-certified in both adult neurology and clinical neurophysiology. He is a diplomate of the American Board of Neurology. https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/who-is-hillary-clintons-mysterious-handler |
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I live with a wife that has advanced Parkinsons and years ago it started much like what has been observed with HC. In less than three years she was unable to ride with me due to balance and stumbling without warning....especially when she seemed rather normal that day. Reflexes went downhill quite fast. As for the drug side effects, depending on the dosage it can often turn a good day into an impossible one....not only for the patient but everyone around.
If Hillary's Parkinsons is as heavily medicated as suspected, then I believe Willow isn't far off in his assessment of two years, it will be too much for her physically. It's the main reason at age 66 I retired before I really wanted or needed to, it reached the point some days I was afraid to leave my wife alone. Personally, from a physical ability standpoint I think Hillary is biting off more than she can chew. My feelings on this point have nothing to do with politics, I wouldn't wish that disease on anyone.
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Snopes closing statement: In closing, we wish to make it clear what our aim has been in this analysis. We have not tried to make the case that Hillary Clinton does not have Parkinson's disease (in point of fact, we don't think that case even needs making). Rather, we have shown that what Ted Noel did in this video is systematically misrepresent perfectly ordinary and explicable phenomena as "Parkinson's disease symptoms," and his motivation for doing so was purely political. End quote: So they did not even consider the case that Hillary has Parkinsons and they focused on trying to bring Ted Noel down. I thought since the heading said Hillary has Parkinsons, was false is a misleading headline since they are not even addressing that? But with all they presented they not only made a good casse that Hillary is in fact sick but did not give any explanations for the various videos and pics of Hillary's needing help, being held, told what to say. Yet they said False yup lets say its false without explanation just say there is an explanation. They also like you did not address why Hillary needs not her regular dr that supposedly gave her a clean bill of health with her but a NEUROLOGIST. How come we dont hear him say shes OK. Yes Snopes credibility is in question with false reporting like this, I hope you both would have the same opinion since its in plain english easy to understand that they did not address Hillary's health questions. This is propaganda in its finest, I dont think that either of you would fall for it, you just didnt read the whole article thats all. Just like Hillary's Deplorable's comments I am filing tin foil hat statement in the same file. |
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I agree it's hard to diagnose any illness from observations but if you watch her walking she walks sort of lifting her feet and stepping forward like she is thinking about each step she makes. Also I've watched her walk out of her car and for a few steps appears to be very careful and deliberately with each step. Sometimes almost robotic and mechanical. Compare the walk and strides of everyone else around her. Something is definitely off. I'm 74 have a few issues myself and don't walk that way. My wife though does. She is diagnosed with alzimers early stages. We are the same age my wife is very frail and weak while I am physically doing quite well. Getting hard to deal with feel guilty every time I go out for a ride on the bike while she is confined at home.
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I agree it's hard to diagnose any illness from observations but if you watch her walking she walks sort of lifting her feet and stepping forward like she is thinking about each step she makes. Also I've watched her walk out of her car and for a few steps appears to be very careful and deliberately with each step. Sometimes almost robotic and mechanical. Compare the walk and strides of everyone else around her. Something is definitely off. I'm 74 have a few issues myself and don't walk that way. My wife though does. She is diagnosed with alzimers early stages. We are the same age my wife is very frail and weak while I am physically doing quite well. Getting hard to deal with feel guilty every time I go out for a ride on the bike while she is confined at home.
I tend to agree. I don't know, I haven't examined her walk or even begin to know how. But I'm sure she has medical issues at her age. I think it's almost impossible for a doctor to diagnose her without a thorough exam. Much less an old run down meatcutter watching TV. I've thought for a while that Bill is looking bad. But I don't know. |
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If this is true Let's Hope that Trump wins!
If he were unable to fulfill his duties as President, Pence seems to be very capable of doing the job well.
Tim Kaine is an IDIOT and A WUSS!
He wasn't capable of being Governor and he Damn sure isn't capable of being President!
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There seems to be a collective wish for Hillary to have Parkinson's. If this be true, draw your own conclusion.
If Hillary is in fact heavily medicated, I would love to see her manhandling of Trump with a clear head.
On the subject of medicated candidates, most people pick Trump with stimulants being the likely drug of his choice.
Trump needs to be medicated, but with different medicine.
Probable, given their ages and as Meathead says, they are both medicated but it's clear Trump is taking the wrong stuff.
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If hillary has medical issues like parkinsons which is I believe true, the supreme court or other higher govt. agency needs to step in and REQUIRE full disclosure of a medical exam from an independent party for BOTH parties then.
That should be a no brainer law in place here in the U.S.. that anyone running for Prez has to have a full disclosure medical exam from independent dr. yet another way our govt. has failed the general public here in the U.S.
She may make it a full 4 years, but if not, lord help us all.
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I don't remember being tested in the Navy. But that was a long time ago. So what do you think they would find on them ? Besides Gary Johnson of course. Were such tests even around during that era? I can only imagine you climbing up the nets to drop the sails. I kind of remember a swab thing they would take of your saliva if they thought you had been partaking of the herb. I was one of the privileged ones. We had our own secure area that not even the Master at Arms could get to unless we let them in. The only physical thing I had was at General Quarters I was an ammo loader for the big guns. Other than that I spent my time floating around BS'ing and doing maintanence on the computers and reel to reels. We did have some fun though. |
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If hillary has medical issues like parkinsons which is I believe true, the supreme court or other higher govt. agency needs to step in and REQUIRE full disclosure of a medical exam from an independent party for BOTH parties then.
That should be a no brainer law in place here in the U.S.. that anyone running for Prez has to have a full disclosure medical exam from independent dr. yet another way our govt. has failed the general public here in the U.S.
She may make it a full 4 years, but if not, lord help us all.
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No wish on my part, DK. I feel bad for anyone going through this, especially so for someone who has spent a lifetime positioning for an accomplishment only to have it threatened by this monster. Parkinson's would not be why I oppose Hillary Clinton. I despise almost everything that she stands for and so much of what she's done. The Parkinson's does scare me in that it could result in the partner she chose as a VP candidate rising to the office of chief executive. |
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I just wish it could be handled like a hockey face-off, where if the players taking the face-off move before the puck is dropped, the official can wave them off and have two different players take the face-off. Two new candidates, please.
This is an election where either one of them would have had a snowball's chance in hell of winning if the other candidate weren't equally despicable in other ways.
I haven't thought this through very deeply, but right now I kind of hope Clinton wins, then soon has to step down for "personal" reasons. At least then, in four years, the Republicans will have a chance to field a candidate with competence and character.
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Unlike some amateur doctors on here, I do have the actual credentials to diagnose mental health issues.
Believe me, the bigger worry is Trump.
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I haven't thought this through very deeply, but right now I kind of hope Clinton wins, then soon has to step down for "personal" reasons. At least then, in four years, the Republicans will have a chance to field a candidate with competence and character.
Slight difference here, I have put much thought into the fall out from this election. Scratch Clinton and insert Trump in that and I'll agree. The irony is, I don't like Trump either but, there's that lessor of two evils thing. Pence, I like. |
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I just wish it could be handled like a hockey face-off, where if the players taking the face-off move before the puck is dropped, the official can wave them off and have two different players take the face-off. Two new candidates, please.
This is an election where either one of them would have had a snowball's chance in hell of winning if the other candidate weren't equally despicable in other ways.
I haven't thought this through very deeply, but right now I kind of hope Clinton wins, then soon has to step down for "personal" reasons. At least then, in four years, the Republicans will have a chance to field a candidate with competence and character.
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That should be a no brainer law in place here in the U.S.. that anyone running for Prez has to have a full disclosure medical exam from independent dr. yet another way our govt. has failed the general public here in the U.S.
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