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« on: October 19, 2016, 09:23:36 AM » |
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So Today Ecuador has admitted they cut off the internet connection to Julian Assange at the embassy in UK. They said it was pressure from the USA as they did not want to be a party to change the outcome of the election. Any thoughts? I bet Assange winds up committing suicide or dead from something.
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 10:00:11 AM » |
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I wish him well. He may or may not be a traitor and/or criminal (under US law), but without his information, we would have been far less transparent (as promised by the Big Liar Zero) than would otherwise have been the case.
If the dumocrats hate him...... well then, I sure don't.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 10:03:16 AM » |
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I wish him well. He may or may not be a traitor and/or criminal (under US law), but without his information, we would have been far less transparent (as promised by the Big Liar Zero) than would otherwise have been the case.
If the dumocrats hate him...... well then, I sure don't.
Funny part is the Dems loved it when he put out stuff on Bush, now they hate him. He may have exposed some secrets,, but he sure as heck exposed a lot of corruption. I don't think he is done yet. Claims to have Hillary's deleted emails.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 10:32:49 AM » |
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party to change the outcome of an election>?>?
Really????
Rigging the polling place is changing outcome
Information is power but not insidious like perhaps enabling dead people to vote or people who are not citizens or letting folks vote multiple times or denying votes to those properly registered
And wasnt the UN supposed to be taking care of the internet now where are they?
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2016, 11:39:55 AM » |
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Shows just how much influence the Clintons and those in power have. They can lie, cheat steal and as long as those that are voting for her dont know and they are not held accountable then everything is ok. So what do you think she will do if she ever got in office, do you suppose she would act with caring, honesty and thought for the people she serves.
I have to say this, its like a river of dung is just flowing from all around the Clintons. Its just one revelation after another.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2016, 12:06:05 PM » |
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Shows just how much influence the Clintons and those in power have.
When I watched James Comey and Loretta Lynch speak during that whole FBI no-recommendation scam, I saw fear in their eyes at certain times. I saw fear in their mannerisms and in their posture, in their deflecting (especially her). Whatever Mrs. Clinton told Mr. Comey the last time she voluntarily went to the FBI's offices, and whatever Mr. Clinton told Mrs. Lynch out of earshot from the entire world alone on that plane, was enough for these two leaders of two of the most important parts of our gov't, to hang themselves out to dry.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 12:13:19 PM » |
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party to change the outcome of an election>?>?
Really????
Rigging the polling place is changing outcome
Information is power but not insidious like perhaps enabling dead people to vote or people who are not citizens or letting folks vote multiple times or denying votes to those properly registered
And wasnt the UN supposed to be taking care of the internet now where are they?
My rabbit loving friend, I hope you take this in the respectful manner it is meant. I know Trump and many others are saying the elections in America are rigged. This is what info I could find about the subject. One fraudulent vote is too much. But I don't see how 31 votes out of 1 billion is going to sway anything. If there is other info out there I would appreciate a link. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/19/fact-checking-two-false-claims-by-trump-alleging-widespread-voter-fraud/
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 12:49:07 PM » |
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The rig is not at the polling booth, it is in the media. They are sellouts, bought and paid for.  You only think it’s a conspiracy? Now it's right out there in the open for those who can read... ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser. CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications. ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama's Deputy Press Secretary ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to Clinton's former Deputy Secretary Tom Nides. And if that didn't throw the final turd into the punchbowl, the ultra-liberal New York times is owned by Carlos Slim, the richest citizen of MEXICO! What a great big happy family! Before you believe everything you read in the newspapers or see on TV -- all these polls and slurs against the Republican candidate -- think about what these billionaire "insiders" have at stake should they lose their crooked "providers" in government. Isn't it time the citizens had a say?
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 01:22:11 PM » |
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The rig is not at the polling booth, it is in the media. They are sellouts, bought and paid for.  You only think it’s a conspiracy? Now it's right out there in the open for those who can read... ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser. CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications. ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama's Deputy Press Secretary ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to Clinton's former Deputy Secretary Tom Nides. And if that didn't throw the final turd into the punchbowl, the ultra-liberal New York times is owned by Carlos Slim, the richest citizen of MEXICO! What a great big happy family! Before you believe everything you read in the newspapers or see on TV -- all these polls and slurs against the Republican candidate -- think about what these billionaire "insiders" have at stake should they lose their crooked "providers" in government. Isn't it time the citizens had a say? Thank you for the response. So if you agree that voting fraud is not the issue, but media bias is going to cause Trump to lose. Isn't Fox News, Rush Limbaugh the most watched and listened to ? Wouldn't their quantity of viewers even it out ?
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 01:35:11 PM » |
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Thank you for the response. So if you agree that voting fraud is not the issue, but media bias is going to cause Trump to lose. Isn't Fox News, Rush Limbaugh the most watched and listened to ? Wouldn't their quantity of viewers even it out ?
You're very welcome. FOX is overshadowed by the mainstream media -- daytime and late night talk shows, Ellen, Saturday Night Live, etc., etc., etc.. Do you get your news from FOX on a regular basis? Those who most need to see the other side of the coin aren't watching FOX. I wrote media for a reason. BTW, voter fraud surely exists but probably not enough to sway the polls. Media fraud sets the agenda with diversionary tactics (sexual behavior), and makes up the mind of millions. I only hope Chris Wallace manages to direct the conversation from the gutter to issues that matter.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2016, 02:19:52 PM » |
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Electronic voting machines are capable of being hacked and we would never know
I would love to see paper ballots where you circle who you want or put an x next to the name you want
They are counted verified and saved
Someday it will be the law of the land
and dead people in Chicago will not be able to vote
Oh and Meat, didnt catch any rabbits since the weekend
but the traps are out
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 02:27:22 PM » |
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Thank you for the response. So if you agree that voting fraud is not the issue, but media bias is going to cause Trump to lose. Isn't Fox News, Rush Limbaugh the most watched and listened to ? Wouldn't their quantity of viewers even it out ?
You're very welcome. FOX is overshadowed by the mainstream media -- daytime and late night talk shows, Ellen, Saturday Night Live, etc., etc., etc.. Do you get your news from FOX on a regular basis? Those who most need to see the other side of the coin aren't watching FOX. I thought we were talking mainstream news outlets. I wouldn't consider SNL or Ellen news outlets. Maybe they are, I've never watched Ellen. And haven't watched SNL for years. I get SOME of my news from FOX. Some of their programming I just can't take (Hannity). If it's the case that Trump feels he is going to get a raw deal from the media, he is mistaken. There were many months where ALL of the media was giving him plenty of free attention. Much to the detriment of his fellow Republican candidates. From what I'm getting from him though is he is blaming voter fraud mostly.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2016, 02:32:50 PM » |
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Electronic voting machines are capable of being hacked and we would never know
I would love to see paper ballots where you circle who you want or put an x next to the name you want
They are counted verified and saved
Someday it will be the law of the land
and dead people in Chicago will not be able to vote
Oh and Meat, didnt catch any rabbits since the weekend
but the traps are out
I didn't have the heart to tell you, but Brenda had a little Dr. Doolittle talk with your animal neighbors. She put the fear of God in them. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2016, 02:40:53 PM » |
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You do understand there is a difference between voter registration and actual voting ?
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2016, 02:55:23 PM » |
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You do understand there is a difference between voter registration and actual voting ? You do understand it takes a voter registration to commit fraud? How are the birth dates getting changed on registrations if someone is not screwing with them?
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2016, 03:06:00 PM » |
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You do understand there is a difference between voter registration and actual voting ? You do understand it takes a voter registration to commit fraud? How are the birth dates getting changed on registrations if someone is not screwing with them? Some organizations pay people per registration. Which in turn creates an incentive for them to "create" registrations. It has nothing to do with a person actually voting.
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2016, 03:40:52 PM » |
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You do understand there is a difference between voter registration and actual voting ? You do understand it takes a voter registration to commit fraud? How are the birth dates getting changed on registrations if someone is not screwing with them? Some organizations pay people per registration. Which in turn creates an incentive for them to "create" registrations. It has nothing to do with a person actually voting. Oh really, then why is it I have to be gegistered to vote in my state? Without that registration I can not vote. So you are saying people get paid to fill out multiple registeation cards to make this fraud possible? If this is true, then they should get 5 years behind bars for every fraudulent registration they submit. Or just hung at the courthouse at noon on saturdayand pay per view it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2016, 04:11:29 PM » |
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Gavin you put your finger on the point
There is nothing "per se" wrong with paying to get people to register
Emphasis on REAL PEOPLE
Too often it is easy money = fraud and this is the case with ACORN in the past and if it is connected to the "former local activist" we should really look carefully into the whole organizational chart
I would hope Mr Pence jumps all over this and the people who are behind the fraud get to spend some time without bail awaiting trial.
Meathead, nothing wrong with wanting to believe the best of people, its admirable but can be harmful or fatal. Be careful who you trust with your freedom
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2016, 04:21:20 PM » |
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I'm assuming it would be very difficult for any liberal to hold any voted office if all the people that were committing fraud were behind bars. They would even have a hard time getting county corrorner. This all just shows that liberals will lie and cheat their way to the finish. I wouldn't trust them with my dead dogs corpse. Hell, my dead dog might even be registered to vote in this election.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2016, 04:33:08 PM » |
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You do understand there is a difference between voter registration and actual voting ? You do understand it takes a voter registration to commit fraud? How are the birth dates getting changed on registrations if someone is not screwing with them? Some organizations pay people per registration. Which in turn creates an incentive for them to "create" registrations. It has nothing to do with a person actually voting. Oh really, then why is it I have to be gegistered to vote in my state? Without that registration I can not vote. So you are saying people get paid to fill out multiple registeation cards to make this fraud possible? If this is true, then they should get 5 years behind bars for every fraudulent registration they submit. Or just hung at the courthouse at noon on saturdayand pay per view it. Gavin, you sure seem to have a thing for ropes. Is there something we should know?
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2016, 04:34:12 PM » |
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This details a bit where some fraud is and can happen. I heard earlier in the day while driving of a Pew research study showing fully 4 million fraudulent voters right now. You know who is behind this. Plus we have the tape out by James O'Keefe or O'Keith of Demo operatives plainly stated about how they manipulate fraud at poling stations http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2016, 04:39:04 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2016, 04:39:51 PM » |
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Maybe I'm not explaining it correctly as I see it. If Joe a 20 year old paying his way thru college takes a job registering voters. He is paid $5 an hour and $5 per person he registers. He quickly realizes the 20 people he registered Friday made him $100. He thinks to himself if I turn in 100 registrations I'll get $500. He fills out forms with dead people's names, his pets names, his ex-girlfriends, etc. Yes it is voter registration fraud. But none of those fraudulent non existent voters actually went to the polling place and cast a vote. Hence the election was not altered. 31 actual fraudulent votes out of 1 billion votes had nil effect on any election.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2016, 08:49:01 PM » |
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Maybe I'm not explaining it correctly as I see it. If Joe a 20 year old paying his way thru college takes a job registering voters. He is paid $5 an hour and $5 per person he registers. He quickly realizes the 20 people he registered Friday made him $100. He thinks to himself if I turn in 100 registrations I'll get $500. He fills out forms with dead people's names, his pets names, his ex-girlfriends, etc. Yes it is voter registration fraud. But none of those fraudulent non existent voters actually went to the polling place and cast a vote. Hence the election was not altered. 31 actual fraudulent votes out of 1 billion votes had nil effect on any election.
This would assume that the Democratic National Committee hired only one 20 year old college student in the entire country. And you would be right. The one college student committing voter registration fraud would not have any statistical effect. But, to ignore the obvious silly. They employ thousands across the country to do this. The registrations are not just filed and forgotten. They are collected and tracked and they send people to vote based on the fraudulent registrations. Probably pay them to do so. It is ludicrous to assume the DNC is going to make such an investment in paying for fraudulent registrations just so they can pay college students. You don't pave a road so you don't drive on it. The fact there is voter registration fraud is a GIANT RED FLAG that there is VOTER FRAUD. The integrity of the entire system depends on strict standards being enforced. On all sides.
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