Dragon survivor credits divine intervention .....

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/maryville-blount/survivor-credits-divine-intervention-for-rescue-one-day-after-dragon-crash/339919725

[f6john]

   Had to be a very helpless feeling to endure for 30 hours

[Mr Whiskey]

There but for the grace of God, go I.

[old2soon]

Can happen to anyone of US at any time. RIDE SAFE.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Made me think of the first time I rode through that area and thinking "go off the road here and you might not be found till huntin' season".

[Oss]

Remember on a ride thru the Snake looking back and not seeing Gman

I turned around and found his bike and after finding a safe place to park the bike ran back up the hill and started yelling his name

He had seen someone behind him as he went off the road and he and the bike crash and tumble down the side of the mountain and Gman stopped to try to help   I think it was a member here, not Duffy who also crashed that day or the day before

His bike was laying on top of him burning him and believe his legs was broken but he will correct me I hope  I rode down the mountain to the 1st house I saw and knocked on the door for them to call 911 as there was no cell service.

Gary done real good that day.  I keep a whistle in my right hand jacket pocket after that day just for this reason. Also I keep a trauma sponge now in my first aid kit on the valk and in the radio box of my police bike.  

Thanks for posting Joe, good to see a happy ending could be had
from this one

[solo1]

Thank you Joe for posting that.  It should also be a reminder to those who live in the flatlands and come down to ride the Dragon when their ego outshines their skills.

The story emphasizes of why my Valkyrie was named Emanuel.

Wayne

[Jersey mike]

Wow crazy story. I feel bad for this guy for what happened and happy he's recovering.

this one of those videos you DON'T show the little lady.

I could not imagine laying there for over 24 hours with a friend who died in the same accident and not being able to contact help.

I hope for his sake there will be no insurance lawsuit in his friends death or criminal action taken.

[Robert]

Great story 

Sorry for the friend but we all have an appointed time.

[cookiedough]

good idea OSS to carry a whistle with you in any extreme condition we may face whether cycling or atving any other remote wilderness surroundings.  First aid kit also might come in handy but might be too big of course to carry ON your body/jacket.  When I go ATVing I try to carry it all on bags on the racks.  First aid kit,  extra clothes, air pump, tire plugs,  spark plugs, socket set/tools, water, food, and even 3-4 gallons of gas.  If I do not need it,  someone else on the trails might need it.    A few bucks here and there carrying it with you can save someone's miserable day to a somewhat still enjoyable day makes it all worth while.  So far,  have not used much of it but that one time you need it, you wish you brought it along.   

This is something that person will have to live with for the rest of his life sounds like he was following too close to his buddy and hit him causing the deadly accident. 

Just goes to show you NEVER follow too close to any other cycle (or car tailgating) while on the road since you never know how that person ahead of you reacts to curves or other debris/potholes, etc. in the road.   I once followed a fellow Valk rider who was taking the curves from what I thought WAY, WAY too slow since I am no fast corner carver myself, but him braking hard all the way thru every single turn in the road was dangerous since I was not expecting anyone to brake that hard and that long (slow) and came several times within say 10 feet of his rear tire doing say  a super slow 15-30 mph.  After a few not super close calls but too close for comfort,  I backed off way far behind him giving him plenty of room. 

[..]

NO MATTER how many miles you've ridden together YOU HAVE to leave a safe space between riders cause $hit happens quickly.

[old2soon]

NO MATTER how many miles you've ridden together YOU HAVE to leave a safe space between riders cause $hit happens quickly.

             And I positively DESPISE those that Insist on riding side by side. RIDE SAFE.

[..]

NO MATTER how many miles you've ridden together YOU HAVE to leave a safe space between riders cause $hit happens quickly.

             And I positively DESPISE those that Insist on riding side by side. RIDE SAFE.

 

[Willow]

NO MATTER how many miles you've ridden together YOU HAVE to leave a safe space between riders cause $hit happens quickly.

            And I positively DESPISE those that Insist on riding side by side. RIDE SAFE.

Careful, Dennis.  That will cause you to be despising a lot of well trained motorcycle policemen.  

[old2soon]

NO MATTER how many miles you've ridden together YOU HAVE to leave a safe space between riders cause $hit happens quickly.

            And I positively DESPISE those that Insist on riding side by side. RIDE SAFE.

Careful, Dennis.  That will cause you to be despising a lot of well trained motorcycle policemen.  

         Carl-The L E Os can do whatever they wanna do. I'll stand by my original statement and DO NOT under any circumstances attempt it with me please. Ridden lotsa miles with my Brother and at stop lights where we stop we get side by side but rollin we are staggered. RIDE SAFE.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Very few on this earth I would do this with .... Smokin'joe and Big Al side by side all the way across The Dragon.... I miss my Suzuki Bandit 1200S





Side by side across The Dragon ... Smokin'joe and Lucky 13.

[cookiedough]

Joe, if you liked that bandit 1200,  you can always go a step up with the b-king:

http://rockford.craigslist.org/mcd/5808356190.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/mcd/5807991478.html

not at that price, but you could not ask for more speed/power.

I have always liked the looks of them, but my riding skills do not justify such a fast bike.  

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Joe, if you liked that bandit 1200,  you can always go a step up with the b-king:

http://rockford.craigslist.org/mcd/5808356190.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/mcd/5807991478.html

not at that price, but you could not ask for more speed/power.

I have always liked the looks of them, but my riding skills do not justify such a fast bike.  

I think I would find a nice low-mile Bandit if I was looking . I put 33,000 miles on this one and never a problem whatsoever these bikes are wicked fast and handle great .

 

[cookiedough]

yep, the bandit is surely in the top 5 of reasonably priced used naked bikes to own right behind the b-king, but at least the bandit the way your bike was setup has a useable rear passenger seat with backrest. 

I would not put anyone on the rear seat (if you can call it that) on the b-king since am sure will fall off the back when goosing the throttle doing a wheelie very easily. 

Nothing wrong with any of them, too bad some of them are no longer made, much like our old Valks.

[baldo]

Video from the survivor of the Dragon crash, made while he lay there waiting for help.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2016/10/26/dragon-motorcycle-crash-survivor-shares-final-goodbye-videos/92744086/

[Valkorado]

Video from the survivor of the Dragon crash, made while he lay there waiting for help.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2016/10/26/dragon-motorcycle-crash-survivor-shares-final-goodbye-videos/92744086/

Sounds like a harrowing experience, glad he was rescued.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Video from the survivor of the Dragon crash, made while he lay there waiting for help.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2016/10/26/dragon-motorcycle-crash-survivor-shares-final-goodbye-videos/92744086/

I think his first instinct to delete them was the correct one. I'm not sure his wife needed to hear him say "I hope you report me missing, so I can get saved" (paraphrasing). I have mixed emotions about this guy. I'm glad he made it. But I also am pissed that he ran up on his buddy so bad that he shot them off the road.

[Mr Whiskey]

I have mixed emotions about this guy. I'm glad he made it. But I also am pissed that he ran up on his buddy so bad that he shot them off the road.

No matter how he heals he's gotta live with the knowledge that he killed his friend.
That's gonna be tough to carry.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have mixed emotions about this guy. I'm glad he made it. But I also am pissed that he ran up on his buddy so bad that he shot them off the road.

No matter how he heals he's gotta live with the knowledge that he killed his friend.
That's gonna be tough to carry.

I agree. I sure wouldn't want that hanging over me. It's a sad deal.

[Willow]

I have mixed emotions about this guy. I'm glad he made it. But I also am pissed that he ran up on his buddy so bad that he shot them off the road.

No matter how he heals he's gotta live with the knowledge that he killed his friend.
That's gonna be tough to carry.

I agree. I sure wouldn't want that hanging over me. It's a sad deal.

In fairness we do not know how he has or will process the event.  His words are, "He lost control and I was probably following too close."  If the lead bike braked hard he may have been going off the road anyway.  How close was too close?  I know with riders I trust I have followed closely enough that if they surprised me with a hard brake and loss of control the result may have been tragic.  They didn't.  They are good riders and to be trusted.  These two had known each other for three years and had ridden together on several weekends.  You and I would have properly properly assessed one another's skills.  We are Valkyrie riders.  Some don't. 

I'm not sure whether it was all the trailing rider's fault or some of both.  If the leading rider had not lost control the trailing rider would not have gone over.  Perhaps neither one of them belonged on that road with those bikes.

It will be tough for him to live with.  I'm sure he will process it again and again and again.  I'm not ready to declare a final verdict as I wasn't there and I don't think the testimony of the surviving member lends enough information.  He'll feel guilty enough just for surviving and that will effect how he views the events. 

[cookiedough]

yep,  hard to jump to conclusions and be an arm chair QB so to speak.   Just too many variables and probably the survivor is not really sure what could have been done differently to not make the accident happen.   Maybe following to close, maybe not??  Either way,  sad event indeed... 

[Skinhead]

I have mixed emotions about this guy. I'm glad he made it. But I also am pissed that he ran up on his buddy so bad that he shot them off the road.

No matter how he heals he's gotta live with the knowledge that he killed his friend.
That's gonna be tough to carry.

I agree. I sure wouldn't want that hanging over me. It's a sad deal.

In fairness we do not know how he has or will process the event.  His words are, "He lost control and I was probably following too close."  If the lead bike braked hard he may have been going off the road anyway.  How close was too close?  I know with riders I trust I have followed closely enough that if they surprised me with a hard brake and loss of control the result may have been tragic.  They didn't.  They are good riders and to be trusted.  These two had known each other for three years and had ridden together on several weekends.  You and I would have properly properly assessed one another's skills.  We are Valkyrie riders.  Some don't. 

I'm not sure whether it was all the trailing rider's fault or some of both.  If the leading rider had not lost control the trailing rider would not have gone over.  Perhaps neither one of them belonged on that road with those bikes.

It will be tough for him to live with.  I'm sure he will process it again and again and again.  I'm not ready to declare a final verdict as I wasn't there and I don't think the testimony of the surviving member lends enough information.  He'll feel guilty enough just for surviving and that will effect how he views the events. 

+1

I wasn't there (well really I guess I was in the neighborhood) but I didn't see the accident, and I would not read too much from his comment.  We all know things can go bad in a split second, I'm sure this guy would have allowed more room if he had any idea what was about to go down, nut it sounds to me like an accident, possibly a preventable accident, but accident none the less.

[Mr Whiskey]

I don't see the world in shades of grey.
He admitted he was following too close,
he hit him from behind,
his fault.

He made mistakes that cost someone their life,
& he sounded like he knows it.

[GiG]

Video from the survivor of the Dragon crash, made while he lay there waiting for help.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2016/10/26/dragon-motorcycle-crash-survivor-shares-final-goodbye-videos/92744086/

Sounds like a harrowing experience, glad he was rescued.

They played this audio on WRIF Detroit Tuesday morning and later in the afternoon on WIOT Toledo while I was riding in 80 degree weather in north Ohio. It's funny how the story changes with every retelling, they said it was in GA...
Weird thing is: me and THE Detn8r were on the exact same road at the exact same time that day and I was looking at various skid marks going over the side  ???
In the audio, you can hear vehicles cruising nearby and I wonder if those are me and Mark. We would have been close enough to render help, for sure  
Tragic tale, really makes you think...