replaced the 05 Tundra today with........

[Gavin_Sons]

A brand spankin new 2017

[big d]

Congratulations, I hope it lives up to your expectations and is everything you need and want

[Pappy!]

They are great looking trucks for sure!

[Savago]

How the new one compares to the 05?

[Gavin_Sons]

How the new one compares to the 05?

Well considering there is only 100 miles on the new one compared to 215k on the old one, not sure yet. More power, bigger cab, better looking. Has navigation and all that fancy stuff. I did not get leather or a sun roof because I hate both. It's an SR5 with the TRD off road package. Old one was just a SR5. Came with a factory spray in bed line. So far so good.

[3fan4life]

Looks Good ! 

I'm waiting for Toyota to put a diesel in them.

[Gavin_Sons]

Looks Good ! 

I'm waiting for Toyota to put a diesel in them.

I asked about that today and they said maybe the late 2017 would have them and definitely 2018. I don't pull enough to justify having a diesel

[Patrick]

Good luck with the truck. Must be you had good luck with the last one. Mine was the worst vehicle I ever owned.

[signart]

Congrats. I trust jap technology on all the electronic gizmos more than any US manufacturer. Great looking truck.

[Gavin_Sons]

Good luck with the truck. Must be you had good luck with the last one. Mine was the worst vehicle I ever owned.

215k miles and I never once had it in the shop for repairs. I did rebuild all the front end parts early last year just for peace of mind.  Still had original u joints and wheel bearings.

[cookiedough]

congrats,  been contemplating a 2017 tundra (double cab SR5 NON-TRD) as well since the word on the street is the 2018 model will be totally revamped both interior, exterior, and engine choices late 2017 or out in early 2018.  Your color combo for 2017 is the only one I would get since the red and blue colors are too light, you done good.

A new 8 speed tranny will be welcome (I think?), but sounds like a 5.0L cummins turbo diesel will be available much like the Nissan Titan has now.  I hate to see it go,  but my 2014 5.7L V8 tundra engine might be going as well, not sure on that.    It may get the worst mpg with the tried and true 5.7L,  but has been the best engine/tranny combo I have ever had in a 1/2 ton pickup dating back to the early 1990's driving chevy 5.7L engines. 

Been driving the 5.7L tundra ever since they came out in 2007,  no regrets going in 2007 from my near new 2007 Chevy Silverado 5.3L wimpy engines/tranny to a 2007 tundra. 

SR5 is the way to go for me as well no leather and no sunroof, but I would get the double cab vs. crew cab for a more useful bed length.  If only toyota made my dream truck like the Big 3 have now being a crew cab 6 1/2 bed length tundra, been begging for one since 2007 but sales of the tundra are not on par with the Big 3 thus not going to produce my perfect dream truck. 

Getting the TRD package is personal choice.  MY 2007 tundra had it and I disliked it riding much firmer/rougher on normal pavement roads, especially in winter. But, it does have nicer looking rims vs. the standard SR5 package which is about the only real advantage I see to the TRD package.    Firmer bilstein shocks, to me anyways,  just makes the truck ride firmer/rougher over chops in the winter roads.   Some like it, some dislike it, personal preference is all.  I will take the smoother ride of standard shocks vs. better looking rims for 1 grand more in price to get the TRD pkg. 

I just hope toyota does not screw it all up in 2018 going the way Ford f150 has done getting rid of tried and true V8 engines to get better mpg going the route of a 3.5L twin turbo V6 engine.

I would get the 5.0L cummins turbo diesel ONLY if it was like 2 grand more, but judging by the Ram 3.0L V6 ecodiesel costing pushing 4 grand more,  I suspect that will be the case as well.  Just cannot justify 4K extra when the price tag will be pushing 40K already.   I calculated it out and for me, it will take 5 years (or more) in gas savings to justify the extra 4K in price since for now, diesel is not much more than gas, not even factoring in though the extra maintenance required for a diesel engine.  Plus,  I do not need a diesel engine since not pulling anything more than 5000 lbs.

Heck, if I would not be near maxing out my enclosed trailer weight pushing 5000 lbs. with a midsized truck, I would even consider the V6 chevy colorado or better yet the new V6 honda ridgeline since heard good reviews and near 25 hwy mpg.  I priced them out though and although the colorado would be cheaper by a few grand over my current tundra mid-level trim,  the darn honda ridgleline is MORE expensive to get and is not even a full sized truck.  That to me is nuts paying near as much or even more for a mid-sized truck over any full sized truck.  The tacoma V6 was also in the mix as well, but would be hard to justify the comfort and roominess of a full sized truck going to a smaller interior. 

[cookiedough]

 forgot to ask,  did you get the optional 38 gallon fuel tank vs. the standard 26.5 gallon?

Would be nice on longer trips since have had to fill up my tank dozens of times well before I wanted to on longer trips.  17 avg mpg does not go too far or as much as I want it to, especially pulling a trailer getting then under 15 mpg. 

[Gavin_Sons]

Hey cookiedough, thanks for all the great info. Yes it does have the 38 gallon tank. The fuel monitor showed 558 miles to empty yesterday with a full tank.

[fudgie]

Congrats! 

To bad its not a GMC 

[Gavin_Sons]

Congrats! 

To bad its not a GMC 

You actually drive that crap? 

[Valker]

Hey cookiedough, thanks for all the great info. Yes it does have the 38 gallon tank. The fuel monitor showed 558 miles to empty yesterday with a full tank.

My 2011 F150 King Ranch with the 5.0 V8 usually gets 18 on the road at 75mph. When I take my trips to the mountains with the 55-60 mph speed limits, it goes to 21-23mpg. With the 36 gallon tank, I had "776 miles to empty" show last time. Love it!

[cookiedough]

Hey cookiedough, thanks for all the great info. Yes it does have the 38 gallon tank. The fuel monitor showed 558 miles to empty yesterday with a full tank.

Your welcome,  enjoy, it should treat you right,  all except at the gas pump... 

worst mpg by a few of the Big 4 is not everything when it comes to trucks.

You will appreciate the 38 gallon tank vs. standard 26.5 gallon when it comes to longer trips.

[henry 008]

good lookin truck! 

[Gavin_Sons]

Hey cookiedough, thanks for all the great info. Yes it does have the 38 gallon tank. The fuel monitor showed 558 miles to empty yesterday with a full tank.

Your welcome,  enjoy, it should treat you right,  all except at the gas pump... 

worst mpg by a few of the Big 4 is not everything when it comes to trucks.

You will appreciate the 38 gallon tank vs. standard 26.5 gallon when it comes to longer trips.

same reason i bought a Valk, MPG means nothing unless it has the looks and performance to go with it. Didn't buy it to get 30 MPG. if that is what i wanted i would have bought a Prius. BEEP BEEP

[cookiedough]

No Gavin,  the prius gets near 50 mpg or so, just ask my Eco-friendlhy neighbor.  I agree if buying a V8 GAS, non diesel, 1/2 ton truck and expecting much, if any, over 20 mpg you are barking up the wrong tree.  You do not buy a truck to save 2-3 more mpg is all over the next truck mfg.   I tried to tell my neighbor that looking at buying a ford f150 2.7L V6 ecoboost twin turbo he was so concerned about mpg.  I said why even bother it may get 21 avg mpg vs. mine 17, but does that matter much when spending near 40K for a truck?    I told him to consider the honda ridgeline V6 since really that is all he needs and although a honda pilot platform  with FWD (or AWD) and WAY overpriced,  seems to be a reliable and peppy 280hp V6 engine.  At least it will fit better in his smaller 20x20' garage and still get 25 hwy. mpg which is pretty darn good vs. say 17-18 with most trucks. 

If full sized 1/2 ton gas trucks (NON diesel) ever get 25 hwy. mpg, then that is the day I might consider buying one over another truck that say gets 17 avg mpg. 

I bought new 2 years ago a 2014 Hyunda base sedan sonata 2.4L 190hp nice sized, almost full sized,  for 17.7K out the door price and am impressed though with that getting average 36.5 mpg and if taken on long trips which we have done 4-5 times doing near 80 mph will achieve 39.5 avg mpg.  I have gotten as high as 42 avg mpg if driving 61 mph.  That is on par with almost all much smaller fuel efficient 4 cylinder cars on the road such as my prius neighbor's other car being a mazda 3 much smaller engine/interior hatchback.   Nice car, but that car cost him 2 grand more than my much bigger Hyundai sedan.    Knock on wood,  Hyundai and Kia have come a long way in terms of overall quality and reliability even as recent as say 2011 when they finally got much better in all their lineup. 

[fudgie]

No Gavin,  the prius gets near 50 mpg or so, just ask my Eco-friendlhy neighbor.  I agree if buying a V8 GAS, non diesel, 1/2 ton truck and expecting much, if any, over 20 mpg you are barking up the wrong tree.  You do not buy a truck to save 2-3 more mpg is all over the next truck mfg.   I tried to tell my neighbor that looking at buying a ford f150 2.7L V6 ecoboost twin turbo he was so concerned about mpg.  I said why even bother it may get 21 avg mpg vs. mine 17, but does that matter much when spending near 40K for a truck?    I told him to consider the honda ridgeline V6 since really that is all he needs and although a honda pilot platform  with FWD (or AWD) and WAY overpriced,  seems to be a reliable and peppy 280hp V6 engine.  At least it will fit better in his smaller 20x20' garage and still get 25 hwy. mpg which is pretty darn good vs. say 17-18 with most trucks. 

If full sized 1/2 ton gas trucks (NON diesel) ever get 25 hwy. mpg, then that is the day I might consider buying one over another truck that say gets 17 avg mpg. 

I bought new 2 years ago a 2014 Hyunda base sedan sonata 2.4L 190hp nice sized, almost full sized,  for 17.7K out the door price and am impressed though with that getting average 36.5 mpg and if taken on long trips which we have done 4-5 times doing near 80 mph will achieve 39.5 avg mpg.  I have gotten as high as 42 avg mpg if driving 61 mph.  That is on par with almost all much smaller fuel efficient 4 cylinder cars on the road such as my prius neighbor's other car being a mazda 3 much smaller engine/interior hatchback.   Nice car, but that car cost him 2 grand more than my much bigger Hyundai sedan.    Knock on wood,  Hyundai and Kia have come a long way in terms of overall quality and reliability even as recent as say 2011 when they finally got much better in all their lineup. 

My 2012 Z-71, 5.3 L V8 gas, gets great mpg. Better then my old 04 Z-71 (RIP  ) Gets around 20 mpg at 65 mph. If im under 50 mph or so, say in town, it drops to a V4 and get low to mid 30's mpg. 

[cookiedough]

No Gavin,  the prius gets near 50 mpg or so, just ask my Eco-friendlhy neighbor.  I agree if buying a V8 GAS, non diesel, 1/2 ton truck and expecting much, if any, over 20 mpg you are barking up the wrong tree.  You do not buy a truck to save 2-3 more mpg is all over the next truck mfg.   I tried to tell my neighbor that looking at buying a ford f150 2.7L V6 ecoboost twin turbo he was so concerned about mpg.  I said why even bother it may get 21 avg mpg vs. mine 17, but does that matter much when spending near 40K for a truck?    I told him to consider the honda ridgeline V6 since really that is all he needs and although a honda pilot platform  with FWD (or AWD) and WAY overpriced,  seems to be a reliable and peppy 280hp V6 engine.  At least it will fit better in his smaller 20x20' garage and still get 25 hwy. mpg which is pretty darn good vs. say 17-18 with most trucks. 

If full sized 1/2 ton gas trucks (NON diesel) ever get 25 hwy. mpg, then that is the day I might consider buying one over another truck that say gets 17 avg mpg. 

I bought new 2 years ago a 2014 Hyunda base sedan sonata 2.4L 190hp nice sized, almost full sized,  for 17.7K out the door price and am impressed though with that getting average 36.5 mpg and if taken on long trips which we have done 4-5 times doing near 80 mph will achieve 39.5 avg mpg.  I have gotten as high as 42 avg mpg if driving 61 mph.  That is on par with almost all much smaller fuel efficient 4 cylinder cars on the road such as my prius neighbor's other car being a mazda 3 much smaller engine/interior hatchback.   Nice car, but that car cost him 2 grand more than my much bigger Hyundai sedan.    Knock on wood,  Hyundai and Kia have come a long way in terms of overall quality and reliability even as recent as say 2011 when they finally got much better in all their lineup. 

My 2012 Z-71, 5.3 L V8 gas, gets great mpg. Better then my old 04 Z-71 (RIP  ) Gets around 20 mpg at 65 mph. If im under 50 mph or so, say in town, it drops to a V4 and get low to mid 30's mpg. 

Fudgie -  you best keep that one forever than, one in a million.  Either that or you run downhill both ways not stepping on the gas.   
My old 2007 5.3L Silverado got 18 mpg or so but that was before displacement on demand.   I just think the 5.3L with 3.42 or even the 3.73 rear axle ratio lacks some power.  If I ever switched to GM again I would have to have the 6.2L V8 engine of which I cannot get in mid-level trim since GM does not offer it unless you get leather and top of the line trim level which I do not want.

I once long ago heard of someone living overseas with a car and heard that same car overseas got like 20 more mpg than the exact same car destined for the U.S.  Wonder if there is any truth in that?

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

You Can't Hide Money... Sharp ride 

[cookiedough]

actually, the tundra is a few grand cheaper than the Big 3 if SR5 mid-level equipped was comparing new chevy silverado and dodge ram this spring. 

But yah,  the new trucks are not cheap by any means in that 35-40K range not fully decked out.

I said a few years back I would never pay over 30K for any new vehicle, but my tundra was.. 

Darn near price of 1/2 my house new in 1993.   

If the mfgs. keep increasing their prices by an average of 3% each and every year,  the every year higher price keeps on going up and up way too much for the average person to afford a new one. 

Sure is a long way when buying a 3-4 year old used car for 2500 bucks in the early 80's being my first   ???

[f6john]

You Can't Hide Money... Sharp ride 

    I had been waiting for this   I was primed and re4ady to post it if you had not

[pais]

    Great looking truck! Hope you get the dependability in it, that you had with your '05. Nice color!
     I have a Toyota dealership in town. See these just about everyday at some point. They came up with a nice design.
   

[Gavin_Sons]

You Can't Hide Money... Sharp ride 

    I had been waiting for this   I was primed and re4ady to post it if you had not

I knew i would hear this from Joe 

[cookiedough]

It is not so much that we cannot hide money,  since I have looked on dealers' lots for good used 2-3 year old trucks (and cars of all types) and their 'asking' price is almost that of a new car, and sometimes MORE than I can buy a new vehicle for. 

For example,  there is on dealers lot nearby a 2014 toyota tundra crewmax blue ribbon metallic exactly equipped (minus 38 gallon gas tank) as Gavins SR5 with 38K miles on it and the asking price is 38K - OUCH.  I told the salesperson that is NEW pricing if not MORE than new pricing back in 2014.  He did not believe me so just walked away since I know that is factual since I have a 2014 tundra SR5, but a double cab not crew cab, costing me 35K or so and a crewmax is about 2K more so 38K tops if bought new back 2 years ago in 2014. 

Why would anyone buy used 2 year old with 38K miles out of factory warranty for more than if buying new with 5-10 miles on the truck?  I know the tundra holds their resale value the best by far is in the top 10 of best resale/trade in value vehicles, but that is insane asking for used more than new pricing.

It is that way all over on 2-4 year old lower mileage used vehicles to some degree - dealers asking near as much as new.  I wanted to buy a nice used 3-4 year old Toyota Corolla for my kid for what I thought was a reasonable offer around 11-12K tops,  dealer was not even close asking 14K for a then new price back then if bought new for 16K and he would not budge much off his 14K asking price - that is NUTS.   ONLY 2 grand depreciation in 3-4 years is unreasonable asking price, especially if they will not budge much off their asking price.   

Anyways,  Gavin, sharp truck with the best color out there in the tundra for sure.  Just do not let the jokers out there harrass you calling it Jap crap not a real truck since it is made in Texas with more American made parts than almost all other vehicles being made today. 

[cookiedough]

    Great looking truck! Hope you get the dependability in it, that you had with your '05. Nice color!
     I have a Toyota dealership in town. See these just about everyday at some point. They came up with a nice design.
   

yeah,  very good design since 2007 on up, revamped inside mostly in 2014.  Just sure hope toyota does not screw it all up in 2018 when they totally redesign everything on it both interior/exterior/ and engine choices.  Why mess with a good thing already?  I guess since other mfgs. are offering twin turbos, 8 or even 10 speed trannys vs. 6 speeds,  and other gadgets on their trucks not needed,  toyota who always plays it conservative not changing things up much on model resdesign,  has to do something different since that is what everyone wants the latest and greatest gadgets. 

I think even dodge ram and maybe others have remote control locking tailgates or even auto drop down tailgates.  Sorry,  if you cannot open a door or push a lever to drop down a tailgate, maybe yo should not be driving?

[Gavin_Sons]

I did look at a 2014 with 40k miles, was asking 37,500. Mine was only a few thousand more brand new with 21 miles and more options and the off road option.

[cookiedough]

I did look at a 2014 with 40k miles, was asking 37,500. Mine was only a few thousand more brand new with 21 miles and more options and the off road option.

Yep,  that is what dealers are asking of used 2-3 year old tundras FULL purchase price of one 2 years ago new - NUTS!  The 2014 with 40K miles or so dealer was asking 38K which was new price in 2014. They go up about 1k per year, give or take a few 100 bucks so makes sense yours was around 2k more pushing 40K for a 2017.  Sooner or later these vehicles cannot keep going up year after year around 3%.  Pretty soon a 40K vehicle will be near 50K.  INSANE indeed then no one will be buying vehicles - can you say yet another govt. bailout of GM, etc.??? which should not have been allowed in the first place.   Everyone will still have to be driving cash for clunker vehicles.   

[wiggydotcom]

That's a sweet looking truck Gavin! Ya done good!