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By tomorrow night or Wednesday morning (hopefully!), we will know whether we have a Rising Sun or a Setting Sun.............A dawn of a New Day or the dusk of an old Day. 
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2016, 06:11:19 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down... 
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 07:41:18 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down...  I agree with my secessionist friend.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 07:49:24 AM » |
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I modified my subject matter slightly. Optimism, maybe
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 07:57:31 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down...  I agree with my secessionist friend. I question your use of such a term. Apparently you feel the U.S. should continue to spread itself even more thin throughout the world via a nation without boundaries rather than take care of the needs of its own citizens. A global economy is one thing, but a global nation without boundaries is quite another and are by no means equal in meaning.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 08:25:32 AM » |
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 08:36:09 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down...  I agree with my secessionist friend. I question your use of such a term. Apparently you feel the U.S. should continue to spread itself even more thin throughout the world via a nation without boundaries rather than take care of the needs of its own citizens. A global economy is one thing, but a global nation without boundaries is quite another and are by no means equal in meaning. I think my professional meat slinging friend's comment was in reference to my position in favor of a Texit....
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 09:01:05 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down...  I agree with my secessionist friend. I question your use of such a term. Apparently you feel the U.S. should continue to spread itself even more thin throughout the world via a nation without boundaries rather than take care of the needs of its own citizens. A global economy is one thing, but a global nation without boundaries is quite another and are by no means equal in meaning. I think my professional meat slinging friend's comment was in reference to my position in favor of a Texit.... Yes it was. John, I meant nothing more. 
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about.
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about. A perverse part of me is wanting Hillary to win just so when it totally implodes it won't be the Republican's fault... (Although the media will still spin it so that it's the Republican's fault anyway.)
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 09:43:04 AM » |
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about. A perverse part of me is wanting Hillary to win just so when it totally implodes it won't be the Republican's fault... (Although the media will still spin it so that it's the Republican's fault anyway.) 
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about. A perverse part of me is wanting Hillary to win just so when it totally implodes it won't be the Republican's fault... (Although the media will still spin it so that it's the Republican's fault anyway.) nothing will need to implode. The alt. Right media industry manipulating the hate and paranoia will just work overtime least they begin to loose money.
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about. A perverse part of me is wanting Hillary to win just so when it totally implodes it won't be the Republican's fault... (Although the media will still spin it so that it's the Republican's fault anyway.) I do have a fair question: If Donald Trump wins, and things totally implode, who's fault will it be?
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2016, 09:53:28 AM » |
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depends on who wins Trump = down Clinton= up
+1. Alt. Right is going to be in an unending frenzy of conspiracy theories and lies for the foreseeable future. Thank you internet. Indeed a perverse part of me wishes DT would win so they would have nothing to complain about. A perverse part of me is wanting Hillary to win just so when it totally implodes it won't be the Republican's fault... (Although the media will still spin it so that it's the Republican's fault anyway.) I do have a fair question: If Donald Trump wins, and things totally implode, who's fault will it be? Obama's of course, for fouling things up so badly for 8 years that not even Donald Trump could right the ship! ...see how spin works? 
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2016, 10:00:12 AM » |
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My take on this. After the results are analyzed it will show how even more we are divided as a nation. It used to be divided along party lines. Now I'm afraid it's going to be divided by male/female, city/rural, white/ethnic, young/old. I haven't felt this pessimistic my entire life. 
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My take on this. After the results are analyzed it will show how even more we are divided as a nation. It used to be divided along party lines. Now I'm afraid it's going to be divided by male/female, city/rural, white/ethnic, young/old. I haven't felt this pessimistic my entire life.  ...maybe it's time to accept that there are irreconcilable differences and that, for the good of the kids, it's best for us to go ahead and have an amicable divorce. I mean, we've been sleeping in separate bedrooms for many years now, the whole marriage is just a formality to keep the old fashioned folks happy, but really, it's been over for a long time.
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2016, 10:07:23 AM » |
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My take on this. After the results are analyzed it will show how even more we are divided as a nation. It used to be divided along party lines. Now I'm afraid it's going to be divided by male/female, city/rural, white/ethnic, young/old. I haven't felt this pessimistic my entire life.  ...maybe it's time to accept that there are irreconcilable differences and that, for the good of the kids, it's best for us to go ahead and have an amicable divorce. I mean, we've been sleeping in separate bedrooms for many years now, the whole marriage is just a formality to keep the old fashioned folks happy, but really, it's been over for a long time. Maybe. I don't know how we could REALISTICTLY do it though.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2016, 10:17:53 AM » |
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My take on this. After the results are analyzed it will show how even more we are divided as a nation. It used to be divided along party lines. Now I'm afraid it's going to be divided by male/female, city/rural, white/ethnic, young/old. I haven't felt this pessimistic my entire life.  I am right there with you on that feeling. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2016, 10:53:05 AM » |
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Let it known that there will never be a shortage of BS as long as the VRCC is up and runnin'!  It's just a matter of what colors, textures, moisture, mass, mucous, and volume are included in the daily piles...present company included. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2016, 11:43:33 AM » |
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I admire your optimism, but I think tomorrow the BS goes up another notch, not down...  I agree with my secessionist friend. I question your use of such a term. Apparently you feel the U.S. should continue to spread itself even more thin throughout the world via a nation without boundaries rather than take care of the needs of its own citizens. A global economy is one thing, but a global nation without boundaries is quite another and are by no means equal in meaning. I think my professional meat slinging friend's comment was in reference to my position in favor of a Texit.... Yes it was. John, I meant nothing more.  OK, got it, just didn't come across that way. 
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Democrat, Green, Libertarian, Republican, Marijuana Party, etc etc.
I hope each and every legally allowed voter exercises their right at the polling booth.
If you don't I also hope that you will shut yer yap in the future until you are able to understand what it means to vote. Until you understand that many have died to enable all of us to vote.
Some may recall the Iraqi women allowed to vote after years of suppression. They held their purple ink stained fingers high with happiness.
The cynic may say it's all fixed and we the public have no influence and so can't be bothered to vote. Ok, keep that thought but shut yer yap post election.
I would also ask that we don't pay attention to the media talking heads who will try to guess the outcome.
If one of them tells you that Dem or Repub is ahead PLEASE ignore them and GO VOTE.
Finally don't forget that Repubs vote Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday (keep calm - joke).
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2016, 01:15:15 PM » |
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2016, 01:47:37 PM » |
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Hey, aren't you the guy that predicted 437 for Clinton ?
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2016, 02:00:31 PM » |
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Personally I'm encouraged to hear that baldo is depressed. I think I'll go out and vote this afternoon.  Tomorrow will be #5 for me......they have snacks..
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Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Hey, aren't you the guy that predicted 437 for Clinton ? That was before Comey did his thing..... 
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Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Personally I'm encouraged to hear that baldo is depressed. I think I'll go out and vote this afternoon.  Tomorrow will be #5 for me......they have snacks.. Yeah, I'm up to #9 myself! I figured out the trick! I just hafta say "Me nombre es Emmanuel Labor, yo aqui pora vota!" and they hand me a ballot every time with no question!
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Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Personally I'm encouraged to hear that baldo is depressed. I think I'll go out and vote this afternoon.  Tomorrow will be #5 for me......they have snacks.. Yeah, I'm up to #9 myself! I figured out the trick! I just hafta say "Me nombre es Emmanuel Labor, yo aqui pora vota!" and they hand me a ballot every time with no question!  yeah you look just like all the Hispanics around here.
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Personally, I think it's going to be closer than is comfortable. And that is very depressing. Personally I'm encouraged to hear that baldo is depressed. I think I'll go out and vote this afternoon.  Tomorrow will be #5 for me......they have snacks.. Yeah, I'm up to #9 myself! I figured out the trick! I just hafta say "Me nombre es Emmanuel Labor, yo aqui pora vota!" and they hand me a ballot every time with no question! Thanks for working it..... 
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Does anyone think this is going to be a close race? Or, will either one just blow it out of the park.
In a close race I think Hildabeast will take it by hook or crook. Trump will need a big win to get the electoral vote.
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My wife and I are on opposite sides of the political scene. When asked, I told her in '08 how things would most likely turn out and when asked in the ensuing years, I would point out what had been said in the past and how most came to pass. Of course the biggest boondoggle is the UNaffordable Care Act. She maintains that healthcare is a right everyone has, which I have no argument against, it's just the way it was forced down our throats. She originally came back with "now, at least XXXX(her youngest son) can have healthcare." One day when they were visiting, I asked about it and he said it's a joke, he can't afford it and none of the people he works with can either....so they don't carry it. Seems to be systemic. This evening she wanted to watch the national news over dinner, so I just quietly took my plate into a different room. I'm sick of all of it and told her morally neither one is worthy of the position, then added that of the two....she's the worst. That brought on an onslaught of denial on behalf of Clinton so I suggested that after all this mess is over in the next couple days, I give her a link to a history of the "Clinton Crime Family" going back to Bill's upbringing starting in the 50's and up into the 21st century. Told her I guarantee it will open your eyes, even a little bit would be beneficial. I then dropped the subject, but she now wants to see it which I refuse to do until later this week. For her and millions of others, it won't make any difference even after reading it so I'm not going to bother. Goes back to that old premise.....don't confuse me with facts. I never argue with her, especially on politics, but not on anything else either. Our relationship is quite special, doesn't mean we always agree, but we don't have to argue either. It's been that was for decades....so far, so good. 
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My wife and I are on opposite sides of the political scene. When asked, I told her in '08 how things would most likely turn out and when asked in the ensuing years, I would point out what had been said in the past and how most came to pass. Of course the biggest boondoggle is the UNaffordable Care Act. She maintains that healthcare is a right everyone has, which I have no argument against, it's just the way it was forced down our throats. She originally came back with "now, at least XXXX(her youngest son) can have healthcare." One day when they were visiting, I asked about it and he said it's a joke, he can't afford it and none of the people he works with can either....so they don't carry it. Seems to be systemic. This evening she wanted to watch the national news over dinner, so I just quietly took my plate into a different room. I'm sick of all of it and told her morally neither one is worthy of the position, then added that of the two....she's the worst. That brought on an onslaught of denial on behalf of Clinton so I suggested that after all this mess is over in the next couple days, I give her a link to a history of the "Clinton Crime Family" going back to Bill's upbringing starting in the 50's and up into the 21st century. Told her I guarantee it will open your eyes, even a little bit would be beneficial. I then dropped the subject, but she now wants to see it which I refuse to do until later this week. For her and millions of others, it won't make any difference even after reading it so I'm not going to bother. Goes back to that old premise.....don't confuse me with facts. I never argue with her, especially on politics, but not on anything else either. Our relationship is quite special, doesn't mean we always agree, but we don't have to argue either. It's been that was for decades....so far, so good.  Good for you John. Sometimes some things are better left alone. Peace and love in the house is worth more than the ability to say "see I told you so, I was right".
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We all know that the political establishment will never let anyone but he beast win.
I have faith in our system of government. Still the greatest, fairest, most open country on Earth. One man one vote. 
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One man one vote.
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Yeah, probably has nothing to do with all the insults about fat women, ugly women, flat chested women. Or the bragging what he could do to women. You are right. They have no reason to dislike him. 
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