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"who" is he and why such an out cry about him.
I'll be the 1st to admit I cannot keep up with every person in the media and politics and while I'm trying to play catch up with reading and some video I'd like to hear something from anyone (multiple people) I believe I can trust (you folks) that can give some insight into the man and why such a fuss over his possible position with Trump.
If you want to knock my lack of education in this or on the man that's fine but at least give a good argument why.
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Mike, He ran the news agency Breitbart after it's founder died a few years ago. He's like acid to anyone not on the conservative side of the coin (I almost said right)  He's made some incredibly antagonistic comments in the past, he's known for being more than a bit outside the lines. You've probably seen some of my posts denigrating anything coming from Breitbart, they're a few notches below Fox, IMHO... |
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 01:13:46 PM » |
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He is an MBA from Harvard Business School and was an officer
in the Navy. Later he was an investment banker from Goldman
Sachs. More recently he has worked at an online newspaper
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 01:51:38 PM » |
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He is a controversial figure and like many he has opinions, prejudices and
points of view that may not be shared by others.
I have no doubt he said the things that his ex wife attributed to him
Likewise I have No doubt about his intelligence, as to his ability to support the Constitution, lets just hope he remembers the oath he swore when a young man and honors it in advising Mr Trump
We have enough hate, divisiveness and anger in the country as it is
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
Obama probably had him killed. No no no...that's Clinton's job....... Come on Bob. Everybody knows Kenyan Muslims hate Jews. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 03:16:00 AM » |
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Mike, He ran the news agency Breitbart after it's founder died a few years ago. He's like acid to anyone not on the conservative side of the coin (I almost said right) He's made some incredibly antagonistic comments in the past, he's known for being more than a bit outside the lines. You've probably seen some of my posts denigrating anything coming from Breitbart, they're a few notches below Fox, IMHO... but still a few notches above of CNN  |
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I begin to wonder if the true meaning of politician is the ability to keep ones ideals upbringing and goals under wrap till you get into a position that can have influence. Then promise the world but deliver nothing you promised, Obama a great example.
Most of our presidents until Trump have been members of elite schools with liberal and not so healthy agendas for the original purpose of the US. Its no secret many have been members of the Skull and Crossbones, the Masons and many more such groups. We have limited ability to see the influence that these groups have had held over those in positions of power. Some boohoo the upbringing and things some have done to hold and get this rule and rein.
Judge Hugo Black is one example he was appointed by Franklin D. Roosevelt a Mason and member of the KKK to hear court cases on religion and for that we now have the famous term high and impregnable wall between church and state. The ruling was not based on anything that could construe this. Yet we are changed forever with this one rule or judgement
I say this with the idea to alleviate fears and hopefully instill some more conservative values in the US a path and view it was originally designed for. To have someone that is a bit outspoken for conservative values is not a bad thing since we have had those who have worked for agendas behind the scenes for liberal and world values. Some even for the destruction of the US itself as we know it.
We have come so far to the left that we have instilled in us fear of being conservative. A little tip liberals have no idea what conservative values would look like so they just fight anything. We have lived in a country that for 400 years was formed by conservative values. We have given rise to those who would tell us that these values are arcane and restrictive yet history time and time again proves liberal values come before the fall of a country.
Lets support and approve those that may look like they are on the right as far as values. Heck the left will fight against them, but we need that drum to remind us this may be the way to go and give new ideas and options. I am so tired of living under liberal, ridicule, rule,taxes, help the poor destroy the middle class that it would be nice to take things back for personal rights and values you know the ones that say you work you eat and those who work should be able to keep their money not pay for healthcare they cant get themselves.
What a refreshing idea to be able to live free, have the constitution mean something and have balanced budget, morals by those in government, no special rules for those with money, power, connections. Arent you tired of this, isnt this what Trump means why he was elected? Lets support those that will battle and not limit with liberal restrictions and fears that they may be too conservative since sometimes it takes a hammer to drive the nail into the wood a job it was designed for but fights to be put there.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2016, 04:56:26 AM » |
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
Obama probably had him killed. No no no...that's Clinton's job....... Come on Bob. Everybody knows Kenyan Muslims hate Jews. See Guys, We can agree on a lot of things.   ???  |
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2016, 07:27:40 AM » |
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
Obama probably had him killed. No no no...that's Clinton's job....... Come on Bob. Everybody knows Kenyan Muslims hate Jews. Everybody? |
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Obama probably had him killed. No no no...that's Clinton's job....... Come on Bob. Everybody knows Kenyan Muslims hate Jews. Everybody? Well maybe almost everybody. I think there might be 6 on here who don't. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 07:40:45 AM » |
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Breitbart himself may have been on to something that was going on in the Government. He was brilliant and tenacious. Many conspiracy theories surround his young, sudden, and untimely death.
Obama probably had him killed. No no no...that's Clinton's job....... Come on Bob. Everybody knows Kenyan Muslims hate Jews. Everybody? Well maybe almost everybody. I think there might be 6 on here who don't. Our own Rogues' Gallery.... lol |
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2016, 02:26:51 PM » |
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I begin to wonder if the true meaning of politician is the ability to keep ones ideals upbringing and goals under wrap till you get into a position that can have influence. Then promise the world but deliver nothing you promised, Obama a great example.
Most of our presidents until Trump have been members of elite schools with liberal and not so healthy agendas for the original purpose of the US. Its no secret many have been members of the Skull and Crossbones, the Masons and many more such groups. We have limited ability to see the influence that these groups have had held over those in positions of power. Some boohoo the upbringing and things some have done to hold and get this rule and rein.
Judge Hugo Black is one example he was appointed by Franklin D. Roosevelt a Mason and member of the KKK to hear court cases on religion and for that we now have the famous term high and impregnable wall between church and state. The ruling was not based on anything that could construe this. Yet we are changed forever with this one rule or judgement
I say this with the idea to alleviate fears and hopefully instill some more conservative values in the US a path and view it was originally designed for. To have someone that is a bit outspoken for conservative values is not a bad thing since we have had those who have worked for agendas behind the scenes for liberal and world values. Some even for the destruction of the US itself as we know it.
We have come so far to the left that we have instilled in us fear of being conservative. A little tip liberals have no idea what conservative values would look like so they just fight anything. We have lived in a country that for 400 years was formed by conservative values. We have given rise to those who would tell us that these values are arcane and restrictive yet history time and time again proves liberal values come before the fall of a country.
Lets support and approve those that may look like they are on the right as far as values. Heck the left will fight against them, but we need that drum to remind us this may be the way to go and give new ideas and options. I am so tired of living under liberal, ridicule, rule,taxes, help the poor destroy the middle class that it would be nice to take things back for personal rights and values you know the ones that say you work you eat and those who work should be able to keep their money not pay for healthcare they cant get themselves.
What a refreshing idea to be able to live free, have the constitution mean something and have balanced budget, morals by those in government, no special rules for those with money, power, connections. Arent you tired of this, isnt this what Trump means why he was elected? Lets support those that will battle and not limit with liberal restrictions and fears that they may be too conservative since sometimes it takes a hammer to drive the nail into the wood a job it was designed for but fights to be put there.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2016, 02:53:40 PM » |
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I begin to wonder if the true meaning of politician is the ability to keep ones ideals upbringing and goals under wrap till you get into a position that can have influence. Then promise the world but deliver nothing you promised, Obama a great example.
Most of our presidents until Trump have been members of elite schools with liberal and not so healthy agendas for the original purpose of the US. Its no secret many have been members of the Skull and Crossbones, the Masons and many more such groups. We have limited ability to see the influence that these groups have had held over those in positions of power. Some boohoo the upbringing and things some have done to hold and get this rule and rein.
Judge Hugo Black is one example he was appointed by Franklin D. Roosevelt a Mason and member of the KKK to hear court cases on religion and for that we now have the famous term high and impregnable wall between church and state. The ruling was not based on anything that could construe this. Yet we are changed forever with this one rule or judgement
I say this with the idea to alleviate fears and hopefully instill some more conservative values in the US a path and view it was originally designed for. To have someone that is a bit outspoken for conservative values is not a bad thing since we have had those who have worked for agendas behind the scenes for liberal and world values. Some even for the destruction of the US itself as we know it.
We have come so far to the left that we have instilled in us fear of being conservative. A little tip liberals have no idea what conservative values would look like so they just fight anything. We have lived in a country that for 400 years was formed by conservative values. We have given rise to those who would tell us that these values are arcane and restrictive yet history time and time again proves liberal values come before the fall of a country.
Lets support and approve those that may look like they are on the right as far as values. Heck the left will fight against them, but we need that drum to remind us this may be the way to go and give new ideas and options. I am so tired of living under liberal, ridicule, rule,taxes, help the poor destroy the middle class that it would be nice to take things back for personal rights and values you know the ones that say you work you eat and those who work should be able to keep their money not pay for healthcare they cant get themselves.
What a refreshing idea to be able to live free, have the constitution mean something and have balanced budget, morals by those in government, no special rules for those with money, power, connections. Arent you tired of this, isnt this what Trump means why he was elected? Lets support those that will battle and not limit with liberal restrictions and fears that they may be too conservative since sometimes it takes a hammer to drive the nail into the wood a job it was designed for but fights to be put there.
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I'm hoping that Trump will put forth idea's that the Democrats can get on board with even with compromises that don't dilute the positives for the taxpayers. I'm also hoping that the Democrats will try some new leadership, there has been enough mudslinging on both sides for a lifetime.
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I'm hoping that Trump will put forth idea's that the Democrats can get on board with even with compromises that don't dilute the positives for the taxpayers. I'm also hoping that the Democrats will try some new leadership, there has been enough mudslinging on both sides for a lifetime.
Well, this past election was a repudiation not so much of left leaning ideas but of the Democrat's ridiculous leadership. Most of them, either by retirement, loss in the election, or rendered into the minority and no longer effective will have little political power even within the Democrat party much less Congress. This actually gives us hope. That there will be a more focused but agreeable leadership on the Democrat side. Conversely the Republicans, while now having the house, senate only have the White house in name. They too are going to have to deal with Trump as will the Democrats. There is a great opportunity here to move the Country forward. But this is Government. I'm not holding my breath. On the other hand if anyone can pull this off, it would be Trump. |
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On the other hand if anyone can pull this off, it would be Trump.
They're saying on the news this morning that he's looking at South Carolina's
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On the other hand if anyone can pull this off, it would be Trump.
They're saying on the news this morning that he's looking at South Carolina's
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All of a sudden I wish I had voted for Hillary, or Bernie, or some random wino...
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I think he should appoint Hillary as ambassador to Libyia.
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I think he should appoint Hillary as ambassador to Libyia.
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Well, from what I see so far on Bannon..... the Liberals are screaming bloody murder about the guy so he must be the right man for the job!
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Exactly, Baldo! Even more the man for the job now.
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I am going to reserve judgement, and see what he actually DOES, versus what somebody SAYS he is.
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I think he should appoint Hillary as ambassador to Libyia.
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Exactly, Baldo! Even more the man for the job now.
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The way the leftists keep screaming "Racist! Misogynist! Homophobe! Islamophobe!" at every single person Trump puts forward, it's almost like they've learned nothing and are actively trying to start helping the Trump 2020 reelection campaign. Keep crying wolf. Most of America is sick of that game.  |
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