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« on: November 16, 2016, 04:23:53 PM »





I don't know if it will show up in the pics very well. But I just replaced my rear tire and I noticed after removing it the wear was uneven. The right side of the tire was wore more than the left and the tire was wore more in one area than the other. I've never noticed this on any other tires. And I also never felt any out of roundness in the 20k miles I had it on. Any ideas on what the deal is ? I've only put 40 miles on the new tire but it feels good.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 04:37:28 PM »

Your bell is off center, no doubt that plays a role in this mystery.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 04:58:04 PM »

Odd that it would wear more on the right side... I usually have more wear on the left.

Having more wear in one area over another could be from the tire being slightly off balance.  It only takes fractions of an ounce to make that happen.  Have you ever tried the ceramic balancing beads? 
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2016, 05:05:26 PM »

That is very strange.  Never seen that kinda of wear before. Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2016, 05:07:42 PM »

I was gonna say it's from you leaning so much to the left, but that doesn't work either, unless...

Closet right leaner. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2016, 05:13:53 PM »

Odd that it would wear more on the right side... I usually have more wear on the left.

Having more wear in one area over another could be from the tire being slightly off balance.  It only takes fractions of an ounce to make that happen.  Have you ever tried the ceramic balancing beads? 
Yeah I've been using the beads for awhile. Seemed fine, never noticed any problem the life of the tire. I've always had more wear on the left side of the fronts, but the rears have always been even across and around the diameter of the tire. Only thing I can think of is the tire was out of round to begin with and I wore it round soon after mounting it. I'm not sure if that is viable. But I can't see what caused it.

Your bell is off center, no doubt that plays a role in this mystery.  Wink
2funny you are right. I'm going to center it up before I screw this tire up.

I was gonna say it's from you leaning so much to the left, but that doesn't work either, unless...

Closet right leaner. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2016, 05:48:54 PM »

YOU GUYS ARE BEATING ME TO THE PUNCH LINES DAMMIT1
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2016, 07:16:34 PM »

Slightly bent frame

One rear  shock set too firm

One shock worn out more than the other.

You don't sit evenly on the saddle.

You accelerate harder out of a right than you do a left.

You brake harder going into a right than the left. So too much rear brake instead of using front brake.

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 07:17:26 PM »

one shock bushing kaput.

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2016, 07:22:28 PM »

Here's a thought that might be crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride, and I noticed that the crown in the road was making the bike lean to the left. In turn, I was leaning left too. I noticed my back was sore after riding, but didn't connect it.

Anyway, could the road crown be causing it?
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2016, 07:31:33 PM »

Here's a thought that might be crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride, and I noticed that the crown in the road was making the bike lean to the left. In turn, I was leaning left too. I noticed my back was sore after riding, but didn't connect it.

Anyway, could the road crown be causing it?
Not crazy at all, however it doesn't seem to be the culprit in this case since it's on the (shudder) right side.  Wink  Since he said it wore uneven as well as to one side I'm inclined to think it might have been the tire.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2016, 07:39:03 PM »

Here's something that is crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride.
Do you lea.ve your blinker on for miles and miles also 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2016, 07:55:31 PM »

Here's a thought that might be crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride, and I noticed that the crown in the road was making the bike lean to the left. In turn, I was leaning left too. I noticed my back was sore after riding, but didn't connect it.

Anyway, could the road crown be causing it?
My riding style hasn't changed much in 45 years. I don't think so. Bushings are the hard poly ones in good shape. Shocks are set the same and in good shape. I guess we will see in another 20k.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 08:06:05 PM »

Here's something that is crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride.
Do you lea.ve your blinker on for miles and miles also 2funny 2funny

Sometimes....don't we all?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2016, 08:15:30 PM »

Here's something that is crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride.
Do you lea.ve your blinker on for miles and miles also 2funny 2funny

Sometimes....don't we all?
I do. More with my standard than the I/S though.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2016, 04:18:51 AM »

I would suggest that this may be a result of a disproportionate amount of hard right turns (like being stopped at an intersection then hanging a right.) Do you ride your bike to work or on a regular basis where you would take the same route day after day? If so, does this route have a lot of right hand turns?

If the case, you'd be on that half of the tire, under acceleration, at an angle that would cause a disproportionate wear pattern like the one you have.

Just a guess.

And I would think after 20k miles the effects of right hand turns in general would lead to a similar pattern.
Logically the forces in a right hand turn, which tend to be made at sharper angles than left turns, would cause more wear and would be more noticeable on a car tire after 20k miles.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2016, 04:33:24 AM »

Theory sounds plausible but if he took the same route home the number ofefts would equal the rights he took going to work.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2016, 05:24:46 AM »

This is my 5th car tire. Pretty much same roads, routes, riding style. Never had it happen before. I'm thinking it must have been an out of round tire. With the beads in it I didn't notice it at first and then it wore more round. At least that's the only thing I can think of.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2016, 05:31:59 AM »

Here's a thought that might be crazy. I usually stay in the left lane when I ride, and I noticed that the crown in the road was making the bike lean to the left. In turn, I was leaning left too. I noticed my back was sore after riding, but didn't connect it.

Anyway, could the road crown be causing it?

That's it, attitude and perspective, you've answered your own question.    2funny
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2016, 08:15:15 AM »

Note:  My comments below are pure speculation based on no empirical evidence whatsoever, but I'm right, of course.

It's about politics, meathead.  Most motorcyclists have noticed greater wear on the left side of their tires, and they have attributed it to the crown of the road, but they are wrong.  Most motorcyclists lean politically to the right, and that is reflected in their seating position; they tend to sit more on the right side of their seat.  Of course when the rider shifts his weight to the right, the motorcycle has to lean to the left to compensate and keep the motorcycle balanced.  This causes more wear on the left side of the tire.  We can confirm that this is true by looking at the tires of British motorcyclists.  Because most Brits who are politically right have already moved to North America, most remaining Brit riders are politically to the left, and thus you will find greater wear on the right side of their tires.

Based on your postings here, I would say that in spite of what our far-right friends here think, you are actually more to the centre politically, and thus your past experience with even tread wear.  As a reaction to the rise of Trump, you have been forced slightly more to the political left, thus have recently seen more wear on the right of your tires.  The uneven wear on diametrically opposite sides of your tire are from you vibrating in frustration at the recent state of politics in America.

I'm sure that if Strong Eagle (or whatever he calls himself these days) were to look at his tires, he would find that when the right side is worn out, new-tire nipples would still be proud and erect left of the centre line.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2016, 08:18:45 AM »

Note:  My comments below are pure speculation based on no empirical evidence whatsoever, but I'm right, of course.

It's about politics, meathead.  Most motorcyclists have noticed greater wear on the left side of their tires, and they have attributed it to the crown of the road, but they are wrong.  Most motorcyclists lean politically to the right, and that is reflected in their seating position; they tend to sit more on the right side of their seat.  Of course when the rider shifts his weight to the right, the motorcycle has to lean to the left to compensate and keep the motorcycle balanced.  This causes more wear on the left side of the tire.  We can confirm that this is true by looking at the tires of British motorcyclists.  Because most Brits who are politically right have already moved to North America, most remaining Brit riders are politically to the left, and thus you will find greater wear on the right side of their tires.

Based on your postings here, I would say that in spite of what our far-right friends here think, you are actually more to the centre politically, and thus your past experience with even tread wear.  As a reaction to the rise of Trump, you have been forced slightly more to the political left, thus have recently seen more wear on the right of your tires.  The uneven wear on diametrically opposite sides of your tire are from you vibrating in frustration at the recent state of politics in America.

I'm sure that if Strong Eagle (or whatever he calls himself these days) were to look at his tires, he would find that when the right side is worn out, new-tire nipples would still be proud and erect left of the centre line.
2funny 2funny 2funny Thanks  cooldude That was great !
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2016, 08:39:56 AM »

2funny 2funny 2funny Thanks  cooldude That was great !
I think we need to pay more attention to politics on this board.  I'm sure we could provide more insight to motorcycle issues by doing so.  Cool
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2016, 08:46:07 AM »

Note:  My comments below are pure speculation based on no empirical evidence whatsoever, but I'm right, of course.

It's about politics, meathead.  Most motorcyclists have noticed greater wear on the left side of their tires, and they have attributed it to the crown of the road, but they are wrong.  Most motorcyclists lean politically to the right, and that is reflected in their seating position; they tend to sit more on the right side of their seat.  Of course when the rider shifts his weight to the right, the motorcycle has to lean to the left to compensate and keep the motorcycle balanced.  This causes more wear on the left side of the tire.  We can confirm that this is true by looking at the tires of British motorcyclists.  Because most Brits who are politically right have already moved to North America, most remaining Brit riders are politically to the left, and thus you will find greater wear on the right side of their tires.

Based on your postings here, I would say that in spite of what our far-right friends here think, you are actually more to the centre politically, and thus your past experience with even tread wear.  As a reaction to the rise of Trump, you have been forced slightly more to the political left, thus have recently seen more wear on the right of your tires.  The uneven wear on diametrically opposite sides of your tire are from you vibrating in frustration at the recent state of politics in America.

I'm sure that if Strong Eagle (or whatever he calls himself these days) were to look at his tires, he would find that when the right side is worn out, new-tire nipples would still be proud and erect left of the centre line.
2funny 2funny 2funny Thanks  cooldude That was great !

Very good.....but I have to say, you had me at nipples... cooldude
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2016, 12:06:17 PM »

Theory sounds plausible but if he took the same route home the number ofefts would equal the rights he took going to work.

Yes, but left turns are not so acute in nature. They tend to be broader. So I would anticipate less proportionate wear from left turns.

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2016, 01:01:40 PM »

Dress left or right?
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2016, 01:05:11 PM »

Theory sounds plausible but if he took the same route home the number ofefts would equal the rights he took going to work.
Yes, but left turns are not so acute in nature. They tend to be broader. So I would anticipate less proportionate wear from left turns.

True, but cloverleafs are are long right turns.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2016, 02:49:16 PM »

Theory sounds plausible but if he took the same route home the number ofefts would equal the rights he took going to work.
Yes, but left turns are not so acute in nature. They tend to be broader. So I would anticipate less proportionate wear from left turns.

True, but cloverleafs are are long right turns.

And the long straightaways are left and right turns constantly clashing in an epic struggle for the ages.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2016, 06:13:45 PM »

Your bell is off center, no doubt that plays a role in this mystery.  Wink



Might as well have a rock hanging there ... The bell should be at the lowest point of the bike its the whole purpose .... If a friend or loved one gave it to you it double's it's power ( Some claim its worthless if you bought it yourself ). I have them on all my bikes and all was gave to me by friends.  Yeah I'm superstitious and wouldn't ride to the mailbox without one.




The little iron bell that hangs from a biker's motorcycle is supposed to ward off evil spirits. As the story suggests, these demons exist on all roadways, and when a motorcycle passes by, they grab on to it and begin chipping away at your good luck until finally you have a crash.

The tingling of the bell is said to irritate these demons and prevent them from hitching a ride on your motorcycle.

BTW, the bell only has its power when someone else buys it for you, otherwise it doesn't work at all. Some vendors argue that it actually has half-power if you buy your own, but this is just marketing baloney to get people to buy two.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2016, 07:29:01 PM »

Your bell is off center, no doubt that plays a role in this mystery.  Wink



Might as well have a rock hanging there ... The bell should be at the lowest point of the bike its the whole purpose .... If a friend or loved one gave it to you it double's it's power ( Some claim its worthless if you bought it yourself ). I have them on all my bikes and all was gave to me by friends.  Yeah I'm superstitious and wouldn't ride to the mailbox without one.




The little iron bell that hangs from a biker's motorcycle is supposed to ward off evil spirits. As the story suggests, these demons exist on all roadways, and when a motorcycle passes by, they grab on to it and begin chipping away at your good luck until finally you have a crash.

The tingling of the bell is said to irritate these demons and prevent them from hitching a ride on your motorcycle.

BTW, the bell only has its power when someone else buys it for you, otherwise it doesn't work at all. Some vendors argue that it actually has half-power if you buy your own, but this is just marketing baloney to get people to buy two.
I'm not really superstitious . But it was given to me and it didn't seem wise to remove it. Maybe I will check for the lowest point to put it. Don't want to tempt fate.
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2016, 05:11:16 AM »

maybe your not sitting on the center of the seat?  shocks or bushings could be worn.  bearings could be getting worn.  something is askew.  not serious enough to be obvious.
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