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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2016, 05:10:25 PM » |
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2016, 05:52:46 PM » |
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I can buy that American thinker theory Rams and Serk. Another reason is the recount in WI is expected to cost 1 million. Stein has already raised over 5 million ( more than her whole campaign ). They have put out a statement that they do not expect to be able to overturn the results. Just to large a margin. Usually this is only done when margin is a few hundred votes. The money from go fund me will go into the Green Party coffers to help expand the Green Party and that is probably a big part of this. They will be front page and lame stream news for days and that is a plus for them.
What is the difference between the Greens and modern Dem party anyway?
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2016, 05:58:13 PM » |
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I can buy that American thinker theory Rams and Serk. Another reason is the recount in WI is expected to cost 1 million. Stein has already raised over 5 million ( more than her whole campaign ). They have put out a statement that they do not expect to be able to overturn the results. Just to large a margin. Usually this is only done when margin is a few hundred votes. The money from go fund me will go into the Green Party coffers to help expand the Green Party and that is probably a big part of this. They will be front page and lame stream news for days and that is a plus for them.
What is the difference between the Greens and modern Dem party anyway?
Not to argue the point but, I simply don't believe Stein did this all on her own. I strongly suspect Democratic sponsorship, is it possible to "follow the money" on a Go Fund Me page? Raising that much money that quickly tells me someone(s) with some spendable cash is lurking in the shadows. |
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2016, 06:58:00 PM » |
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Based on past experiences, I would bet that monkey business is afoot.
Based on past experiences, someone will find a vast treasure trove of Hillary votes that were not counted.
Based on past experiences, they were not counted because they did not exist on voting day.
Based on past experiences, they will be accepted as valid without true validation.
The fact that the election results were certified will be pushed aside.
And the lawsuits will begin and comments of stolen election will begin and the MSM will have a field day.
No one will investigate any polling places where Hillary won because they might actually find voting issues there.
Someone in the Green Party will in all probability be wealthy after this. Gee what a surprise.
It is not just that the democratic party are liars, thieves and crooks, it is that they are such predictable liars, thieves and crooks.
I hope to live long enough to see all the current political parties in jail for their crimes against the voters.
 Wrong, I have never been a part of any political party and I do not represent one either. As has been stated before in this forum. It says all current political parties in jail. But I guess you missed that. The only party on my scale lower than the repubs is the demos. And both have earned it. Have fun. Public announcement: Reading comprehension classes are offered locally across the USA No need to get knickers all knotted. That was the only image that worked. The first 6 I tried had about 100 lines of code.... Disregard the olyphant. I did read your affiliation disclaimer, my reading comprehension is just fine....... |
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2016, 07:01:32 PM » |
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If we're going to have a recount or two, lets recount every vote, nationwide, including the so called sanctuary areas.
And let's make sure that every non-citizen that voted is prosecuted to the full extent of the law even if it means putting a million or more illegal voters in prison. But, before we slam their cell doors, we offer to deport them with a lifetime ban on entering the United States and a guaranteed 20 year, no parole prison term if they do. I believe that will prevent enough future crime to be worth it and may even give Trump the popular vote as well as the White House.
If you have evidence of non-citizens voting it is your duty to report that. On what do you base the accusation ? Just more bullshit from that psycho Alex Jones..... http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/nov/18/blog-posting/no-3-million-undocumented-immigrants-did-not-vote-/ |
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« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2016, 08:44:58 PM » |
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« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2016, 05:06:31 AM » |
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« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2016, 06:53:19 AM » |
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« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2016, 06:57:48 AM » |
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Sorry, I had to give up coke long ago. For the record, my reference to Coke was capitalized, not lower case... (Although I too had to give up carbonated beverages. A nice single malt scotch will do nicely as a replacement however.) |
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« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2016, 07:10:54 AM » |
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I can buy that American thinker theory Rams and Serk. Another reason is the recount in WI is expected to cost 1 million. Stein has already raised over 5 million ( more than her whole campaign ). They have put out a statement that they do not expect to be able to overturn the results. Just to large a margin. Usually this is only done when margin is a few hundred votes. The money from go fund me will go into the Green Party coffers to help expand the Green Party and that is probably a big part of this. They will be front page and lame stream news for days and that is a plus for them.
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« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2016, 08:49:59 AM » |
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Sorry, I had to give up coke long ago. For the record, my reference to Coke was capitalized, not lower case... (Although I too had to give up carbonated beverages. A nice single malt scotch will do nicely as a replacement however.) Well, it was fun (but really expensive) while it lasted. The fun with Dick and Jane was REALLY fun. I keep a 12pk of Coke in the basement fridge, but only allow myself one or two a week (mostly with pizza). All things in moderation is a good program. |
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« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2016, 12:49:11 PM » |
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I'm loving the irony over this recount crap. During the last debate Wallace asked asked Trump if he will accept the outcome of the election, but somehow didn't manage to ask Clinton that question.
Of course Trump said that he couldn't just say Yes to that and it launched a barrage of negative headlines and top stories for the next 2 weeks.
But since the election didn't go the other way, THEY are the ones protesting and rioting and recounting. Too funny.
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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2016, 05:56:46 PM » |
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All this chapped ass and the Man ain't even sworn in yet! Near as I can tell-at the risk of repeating myself-he must REALLY have the entrenched politicians shiitin nailz! What would have been the lame stream medias take 8 or 4 years ago had this been reversed-Which B T W-it wuz Not! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2016, 09:05:26 PM » |
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Recently read this and although I didn't give it much credit at the time. it may have some validity.The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts By Richard Baehr http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that is the purpose. The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270. Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time Pthis happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson. If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress. Thoughts? I really didn't understand the comment that the Senate would pick Pence.... huh? Oh well, that aside, here's an update from same article: If a state never gets to name electors, the number needed to win goes down; a majority of those named is enough. Even with 260-232, Trump should win unless there wee lots of faithless electors. Now had the Democrats or Green Party also challenged Florida with 29 Electoral College votes, then it could have been 232-231 for Clinton. However, Florida's vote total is final and certified (and maybe Electors already picked). The House and Senate get involved only when no candidate wins a majority of electors selected and voting, which can happen when 3 or more candidates win electoral votes, or there is a tie among 2 because some states did not submit or had faithless electors. If someone has a majority of electoral votes submitted, the Senate and House open the tally and merely name the winner. Clearly this process is now subject to recount mischief in the future, now that Jill Stein and Clinton campaign have in essence argued any close state that Trump won should be challenged. |
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« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2016, 02:17:44 AM » |
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In ND, you actually are voting for the electors. Their names are on the ballot. I believe in most states, the electors are picked before the election by their respective parties at the state conventions.
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« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2016, 04:15:56 AM » |
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A few things dont add up here, It could be argued that the Jill Stien cost Hillary the election in drawing votes away from her. Stien started the recount and then got Hillary to come on board The green party is basically socialist, environmentalism and I would say is everything that the US does not want. She raised 5 million in one day There is so much more here some have said it is to get more attention and money. I dont think we really have gotten to the bottom of this. Jill Stien keeps raising the actual amount of the money she claims is needed Maybe this is a play to not make a smooth transition for Trump. There is some more info here Butt-Hurt Losers Demand Recount! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-bwY-40QAYHow is it that when the problems with electronic voting machines were known and when Hillary was leading did we not hear a peep from liberals? Also interesting that 2 of the states rely on manual counts not machines. |
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« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2016, 05:50:45 AM » |
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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2016, 06:15:12 AM » |
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hillary and the gang exposed as hypocrites again. Wonder when the hypocrisy record might break?
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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2016, 06:29:04 AM » |
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« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2016, 09:44:53 AM » |
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As far as the 3 state recount, Trump has won twice. He has won the popular vote in those states.
Some just can't/won't accept reality. If Trump turns out to be good or bad, so be it. He is our new President and I doubt he can do any worse than what we have now. It appears he is about to break some promises, but, we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out. JMO but I'm still willing to give him a chance.
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« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2016, 06:32:58 PM » |
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All the Hildabeast has to do is get on Trump's bad side. Of course that pales in comparison to when someone gets on the Clinton's bad side......
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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2016, 07:42:20 PM » |
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« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2016, 06:17:47 AM » |
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4 million dollars to recount 3 million or so votes. I will DO IT for that kind of dough..... Why so much money to count to 3 million? Just seems so wrong and a waste of someones corrupt money.  I am 99.99% confident the recount will be fine as is stands, but if that less than 1 percent chance proves me wrong, a whole new can of recount worms will be opening up. Then, who will foot the bill? How about the Clinton foundation? |
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« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2016, 06:34:54 AM » |
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Saw an interview with Steins campaign manager last night and and he was asked the basis of asking for a recount and he stated because it was their right to do so because some computer expert said the machines were hackable. He also said they had no evidence that anything had occurred but he machines didn't reflect the #'s of Polls that were taken and didn't expect anything to change.  waste of time and money. Hillary stated before the Election that if Trump didn't accept the outcome and ask for such a thing it would destroy our Democracy and yet she jumps on the band wagon and does what she said Trump shouldn't . Do we here the Lame Stream Media saying anything of this? Hell No  Grasping at straws IMHO. |
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« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2016, 07:06:00 AM » |
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Liberals.....They are the ones that claim Trump will destroy America........as they riot and destroy America.
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« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2016, 08:12:05 AM » |
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I was just reading an article about the recount. This line struck me as apt.
"Avatars of a demoralized left and a hateful right, they are alike in at least one respect: their apparent willingness to damage what they purport to love."
The recount is just plain stupid.
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« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2016, 02:30:03 PM » |
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A lot of good a recount did huh? Just proves democrats are sore losers |
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« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2016, 02:33:45 PM » |
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A lot of good a recount did huh? Just proves democrats are sore losers She was the Green Party nominee. |
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« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2016, 02:54:32 PM » |
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A lot of good a recount did huh? Just proves democrats are sore losers She was the Green Party nominee. She was a puppet, being backed and supported by the Democrats... |
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A lot of good a recount did huh? Just proves democrats are sore losers She was the Green Party nominee. She was a puppet, being backed and supported by the Democrats... maybe |
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