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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2016, 06:28:43 AM » |
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wonder what they do in a helmet state?
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2016, 06:39:59 AM » |
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wonder what they do in a helmet state?
I was wondering the same thing.....is the turban removed intact, or is it always wound when 'installed'? I apologize if that's a really dumb question....  |
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 07:01:28 AM » |
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wonder what they do in a helmet state?
I was wondering the same thing.....is the turban removed intact, or is it always wound when 'installed'? I apologize if that's a really dumb question.... If its wound, and you yank on the end, can you pull start em?  |
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2016, 07:35:37 AM » |
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wonder what they do in a helmet state?
I was wondering the same thing.....is the turban removed intact, or is it always wound when 'installed'? I apologize if that's a really dumb question.... If its wound, and you yank on the end, can you pull start em? Oh God ! You are going to get Britman going again. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2016, 08:45:58 AM » |
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wonder what they do in a helmet state?
I was wondering the same thing.....is the turban removed intact, or is it always wound when 'installed'? I apologize if that's a really dumb question.... If its wound, and you yank on the end, can you pull start em? Oh God ! You are going to get Britman going again. I hope not. I don't want this thread to get yanked, too. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2016, 08:49:41 AM » |
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any Sikhs I have ever been around were the most peaceful even tempered and pleasant people I have met. Just my observation.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2016, 08:51:37 AM » |
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any Sikhs I have ever been around were the most peaceful even tempered and pleasant people I have met. Just my observation.
That's true. I knew a Sikh family when we lived in Buffalo. He was a real character...  |
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2016, 09:15:56 AM » |
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Of the adherents to non-Judeo-Christian religions, Sikhs have my highest respect.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 10:59:30 AM » |
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Sikhs fought the British a few times. Tough guys. Sikhs fought side by side with British troops in a few wars. Tough guys. Sikhs don't like Muslims. In England a Sikh does not have to wear a helmet when riding a motorbike. A Sikhs turban has been used countless times to save a life. I double dog dare anyone to go pull on a Sikh turban to see if the wearer would spin. http://www.britishbattles.com/first-sikh-war/moodkee.htm |
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Bet they could be useful on a boat if the outboard pull cable breaks.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2016, 11:44:12 AM » |
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Sikhs don't like Muslims.
I don't know much about them, but if they don't like Muslims they can't be all bad. "The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend" |
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Canada has the largest Punjabi Sikh population outside of India.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2016, 01:56:49 PM » |
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I give them a thumbs up
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2016, 03:33:11 PM » |
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While I have no dislike of Sikhs because of their religion I do believe they make good citizens of this country like most people. I was wondering about the news story of one who is a Marine and requested permission to wear his turban instead of the marine hat. He did get permission. He claimed it's was because of his religion. This doesn't make sense to me, they take off the turban and put on motorcycle helmets or ball caps. ???
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While I have no dislike of Sikhs because of their religion I do believe they make good citizens of this country like most people. I was wondering about the news story of one who is a Marine and requested permission to wear his turban instead of the marine hat. He did get permission. He claimed it's was because of his religion. This doesn't make sense to me, they take off the turban and put on motorcycle helmets or ball caps. ???
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2016, 05:31:14 PM » |
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I try to keep an open mind on many nationalities.
My paternal grandparents came here in the early 1900's from Sicily, my dad was born here in '32 the youngest of 3 children.
my grandparents were not treated well and my grandfather worked every crappy job that foremen wouldn't give to anyone else. He spent many years at Ballantine in Newark,NJ as a mason. He would repair all the brick work that would breakdown over time especially in the chimney's.
My wife is second generation Irish and my mother was part Irish so I'm well aware of the troubles they went through as well.
Earlier I saw a documentary on Pearl Harbor made by John Ford many years ago and it reminded me of how the Japanese citizens of the US were treated after Dec.7th.
it wasn't easy to be an Italian here in the states with broken English during WWII with Italy being an Axis country.
I admit I have my reservations when I see middle eastern people and question in my head can they be trusted, but I give the benefit of the doubt that they are just like so many others who have come before them trying to make it here. Like so many other nationalities befor ethem I guess it's just their turn in our history Like the Italians, Germans and Japanese with whom we were at war with at one time, but time will tell how the middle eastern people stand up, speak out against and at times fight as Americans those who who give their nationality a bad name and image.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 05:36:11 PM » |
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While I have no dislike of Sikhs because of their religion I do believe they make good citizens of this country like most people. I was wondering about the news story of one who is a Marine and requested permission to wear his turban instead of the marine hat. He did get permission. He claimed it's was because of his religion. This doesn't make sense to me, they take off the turban and put on motorcycle helmets or ball caps. ???
This was news to me. It appears to be an Army Capt, not a Marine. http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/04/us/sikh-army-captain-simratpal-singh-beard-turban/During my time in service, the seminal case was of a Jewish man who sought to wear the yamaka in uniform. His request was denied. And we were instructed in JAG school that no differences in uniforms were to ever be supported. There were individual exceptions for such things as shaving for folliculitis barbae (permanent scarring resulted from shaving), but that was medical, not religious. The obvious problem is that this opens up equal treatment issues for who knows what? He filed a lawsuit and they settled it thus: "While assigned or performing non-hazardous duties, you may wear a beard, turban, and uncut hair in a neat and conservative manner that presents a professional and well-groomed appearance." Obviously, in the Middle East, this could present a clear friend or foe issue (and is why American Nisei Japanese soldiers all went to Europe, and not the Pacific. The Marine Navajo code talkers had some problems in the Pacific). It's obviously a different military today. The man does present a decent image, but it's called UNIFORM for a reason. Can you see a female in full hijab (or even just a full head/face scarf), and Captain's bars??? I like the Sikhs, but this request should have been denied, and all past court cases were against religious wear in uniform.  There is an old saying that ..... Hard cases make bad law.And. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/04/11/army-lets-three-more-sikh-soldiers-wear-turban-beard-long-hair.html |
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 05:53:49 PM » |
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Our local BC courts have also allowed turbans to be warn instead of helmets. My feelings, since we must wear a helmet, no helmet, then no riding. They can make a choice.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 06:10:51 PM » |
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Our local BC courts have also allowed turbans to be warn instead of helmets. My feelings, since we must wear a helmet, no helmet, then no riding. They can make a choice.
This is not a piece for fashion.
Freedom of religion means more to me than whether someone wears a helmet when riding. If they want to risk it, no skin off my behind. The argument that we have a taxpayer funded healthcare system, so we can tell Sikhs they have to wear a helmet so they don't cost our healthcare system doesn't really fly. How many head traumas and resultant hospital stays have resulted from Sikhs not wearing a helmet? Not enough to make a thing out of it. And I've never served in the military, so my opinion means very little there, but I think I'd worry more about the soldier beside me being dedicated, committed and well trained than what he has on his head. Having said that, I do understand and appreciate the symbolism of the uniform and what it means to those wearing it. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2016, 06:19:53 PM » |
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Here in BC, a Pastafarian has been in court numerous times trying to win the right to wear his collander while riding instead of his helmet. He is a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a religious organization recognized in a number of countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_MonsterHis argument is that if one religious group can usurp the helmet laws on religious grounds, then all religions should be granted the same right. He hasn't been to successful yet! I'm hoping he eventually wins just to make a point! |
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2016, 07:15:04 PM » |
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While I know I shouldn't ask but, what the hell is a Stanley Cup or are we talk'n about Stanley's Cup? |
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2016, 07:42:23 PM » |
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Hell, I would ride with them.
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While I know I shouldn't ask but, what the hell is a Stanley Cup or are we talk'n about Stanley's Cup? CERTAINLY NOT anything to do with the nether region of Steamers! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup |
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isn't a turbin sort of like a helmet?? ??? Helmet laws in some states are stupid in my opinion. If one wants to not wear one, so be it. let them. Just do not ask me to dress in full leathers then either vs. shorts and a t-shirt. WE all know the consequences of no helmet and no full riding attire, should be personal choice regardless of state. If one wanted to ride in just a g-string and flip flops, so be it, just do not ask me to... Now, a cute, over age 18, girl riding on back with a g-string and flip flops have seen several times..  |
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QUOTE: "any Sikhs I have ever been around were the most peaceful even tempered and pleasant people I have met. Just my observation. " I would say the same about my many Muslim friends and neighbors; just as well as my Muslim renters. Always pay on time; fix what breaks w/o asking me to pay for it excellent hard working people. They are moving out because someone in the neighborhood (I suspect who) has killed both their cats then placed the dead animals at their door step. It goes to show that hate can be found just about anywhere... even in liberal California. Sad commentary. |
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2016, 05:36:45 AM » |
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2016, 08:19:17 PM » |
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any Sikhs I have ever been around were the most peaceful even tempered and pleasant people I have met. Just my observation.
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