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Stanley Steamer
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« on: December 25, 2016, 11:50:45 AM »

my Paw-in-Law.....

A Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck 3 inch chambered pump shotgun ....

he ran the serial# a long time ago and thought it was made in the early 40's.......he was an on and off again Gunsmith for over 30 years and retired from a job doing that just before he went blind......he said it had a factory reblueing done.....perfect mirror image......and that it was the nicest one in his extensive collection.....I haven't shot a shotgun since I was in my early 20's.....I was a pretty good shot, but need to bone up on this a little....I found this history below......and highlighted the section dealing with this special model.......it was a very nice surprise...... cooldude


"The Model 1912 (shortened to Model 12 in 1919) was the next step from the Winchester Model 1897 hammer-fired shotgun, which in turn had evolved from the earlier Winchester Model 1893 shotgun. The Model 12 was designed by Winchester engineer T.C. Johnson, and was based in part on the M1893/97 design by John M. Browning, in that it used a sliding forearm or "pump action" to cycle the mechanism. It was initially available in 20 gauge only (12 and 16 gauge guns were not sold until late 1913). The Model 12 was a very successful internal hammer pump-action shotgun.
Its tubular magazine was loaded through the bottom of the gun. Empty shotgun shells ejected to the right. Depending on the particular wooden plug installed in the magazine, two, three, or four shells could be stored in the tubular magazine. The magazine holds six 2¾-inch 12 ga. shells, when no plug is installed, unlike most shotguns of today which hold four or five shells.
With forged and machined steel parts, the ultimate reason for discontinuation in 1964 was that it was too expensive to produce at a competitive price. The primary competition at this time came from the much less expensive Remington Model 870, which had been introduced in 1950. The majority of "modern" Model 12 shotguns manufactured after 1927 were chambered for 2¾-inch shotgun shells only, although some specialized models such as the Heavy Duck Gun Model 12 were chambered for 3" Super Speed and Super X shells (basically a 3" magnum). The early 20 gauge Model 12 guns had chambers that were 2½", and the 16 gauge Model 12's were chambered for a 2 9/16-inch shotgun shell. To add further confusion, some of these early Model 12's have subsequently been modified, with their chambers lengthened to accept 2¾-inch shotgun shells, while others remain in their factory-stock chamber lengths. Careful inspection by a gunsmith is always recommended to determine whether or not it is safe to fire a modern 2¾-inch shotgun shell in older Model 12's.
Special production examples were produced by Winchester, the U.S. Repeating Arms Company, and Miroku after 1964 through 2006 through specialized gun collector purchase programs, but the Perfect Repeater shotgun was never mass-produced after 1964. The U.S. Repeating Arms Company (a subsidiary of F.N.) announced a complete closing of the New Haven, Connecticut factory facility in January 2006, thus ending the Model 12's long and illustrious career at the age of 95 years."

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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 01:02:37 PM »

Cool gift Stan.   cooldude







Just shoot 2 3/4" shells in it, the 3's cost more, and are for distant waterfowl and a sore shoulder.

Check to see if he left a plug in the magazine tube.

(I got a pair of bright yellow print jammi pants in XL..... so I have to hold them up) (Not as cool a gift) 

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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 01:19:08 PM »

 I don't plan on using mine for hunting.......and yeah, I'll most likely save my shoulder with the shorter shells.....my forestock is smooth and a deeper walnut type finish......and the blueing is a mirror finish......he said it'd probably be a closet Queen like it was at his house.....I will probably run some loads through it to test it out first.......just racking the slide is an attention getter if anyone were to ever break into the house........ cooldude
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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 01:30:01 PM »

I got two other nice presents......a drone with camera/video(for checking up on my Hot Neighbor).....and a fancy metal detector......I'm going to try to find this Chick to give me some lessons on how to use it.....you want to come along Oss to make sure I'm doing it right??...... Undecided Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmqWGeCHHY&t=915s
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 07:02:05 PM »

stanley,  just make sure you do not point that metal detector at her hoping to find some gold or silver hiding in between those 2 mountains.

Good way to get some eye candy while searching for riches on the beach.

Only thing I got was my usual state park sticker and a big jar of macadamia nuts covered with a thin coat of chocolate and toffee with powdered sugar on the outside.  Needless to say that big jar is now already 1/4th gone.  I have no control..... Cry
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 07:06:41 AM »

Nice, Stanley! I love classic guns. Gave my younger son a Winchester Model 70 pre-64 .243 Featherlight a year ago. I got it from my grandfather.  It is from the 50's.

I have a Model 12 Remington pump .22 from the late 20's. Works great. Gift for grandson when he is a couple years older.

Nice present.
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 07:36:18 AM »

sure beats the red ryder underpowered BB guns we use to get as kids.

Just do not poke your eye out with that thing....   Shocked

Lucky relatives for sure.  When my dad died  8 years ago, my brother took, without asking,  about 3 guns my dad owned being a .308 Savage lever action.  Winchester top ejection .30/30 lever action, and an old single shot very old 12 gauge that was so light it kicked like a mule, and oh yah,  a single shot .22 lever action as well. 

Only gun I would have liked to have is the .30-30 since was my first gun when first learning to shoot for deer in my teens.   I think having 1 of the 4 guns is fair right??   tickedoff
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 09:09:20 AM »

I got two other nice presents......a drone with camera/video(for checking up on my Hot Neighbor).....and a fancy metal detector......I'm going to try to find this Chick to give me some lessons on how to use it.....you want to come along Oss to make sure I'm doing it right??...... Undecided Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmqWGeCHHY&t=915s

No metal detecting in State or Federal land without permission. It WILL get you into big trouble.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 09:12:43 AM »

I got two other nice presents......a drone with camera/video(for checking up on my Hot Neighbor).....and a fancy metal detector......I'm going to try to find this Chick to give me some lessons on how to use it.....you want to come along Oss to make sure I'm doing it right??...... Undecided Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmqWGeCHHY&t=915s


Do take any trash you find and dispose of it.

http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/confederate-gold

Good luck finding the Confederate gold!

If you have streaming Netflix watch the http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4088818/
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