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solo1
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« on: December 30, 2016, 06:02:46 AM »

I've completed my bugout bag.  Why? I don't know. An exercise .

Ive just bought an AR7 'Survival rifle' by Henry. As most know it's a 16.5" break down .22 with all parts housed in the stock. I know the history, AR stands for Armalite Rifle and the original AR7, like the Ar15, was designed by Stoner. The patent ran out and Henry is now making it. Reports are that it's much better than the Charter Arms production.  When it warms up I'll let you know how good it is after a range session.  Yeah, let's not get into the 10/22 breakdown, the Papoose, and all the rest. The AR7 fits into my digital camo bag along with the rest of my stuff.

This little 'exercise' gave me the excuse to buy a genuwine! Kabar knife but with the Army tag instead of the original US Marine tag.  I also have three different ways to start a fire, including tinder, a folding alcohol stove,  water filtration kit with water containers, small compass, two freeze dried meals, four space blankets, nylon cord. a flashlight, light sticks, etc.  I'm not expecting Armagedden but, like i said, an exercise, just to throw in the car.  Whaddya think?  Let's not get into a discussion  on how to 'improve' on my choice of the AR7   Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 06:58:11 AM »

Dreamaker, as a long time gun owner  I do not consider ANY firearm as a toy but i know what you're saying.    Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 07:01:08 AM »

My wife and I have been ready for 15 years. You made all good choices. A few other things water pills for purification, flint and striker, extra pair of cloths light durable material , good broke in boots for walking, socks one pair seal skins for wet weather, stocking cap, gloves, several snares fishing line and hooks,  profines first ad stuff, light hatchet, small field glasses, three days of MREs high calories two per day, hand warmer packets, small led flash lights, poncho, matches in a small water proof container, dark glasses. Ammo gets heavy so the 22 is a good choice, I pack on the body a 45 and 30 rounds the wife a 380. I have a large military back pack can take sleeping bag and light ground tarp that can be used for shelter half. The wife packs about 35 lbs I pack 55 lbs.  We plan for the long haul. Hope it never comes. Your worst enemy is others that are not prepared and are freaking out.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 07:12:50 AM »

I had to look it up.   I like it and suspect it is a good rifle.  I have always considered buying the Henry Winchester lever action they advertise on TV for my son ( and me sort off laugh)

Question.  Where would you bug out to?  I figure from your area to the Upper Peninsula would be about six hours and most remote.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2016, 07:13:18 AM »

Growing up in Alaska I always felt I was able and prepared to survive. Here in the desert, not so much. I'm afraid if something happened here it would be a stampede to the Colorado River to cool off.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 07:25:29 AM »

Packed up a "get home" bag, similar to yours. Seems they are never quite finished as new or different ideas seem to change the contents once in a while. No rifle in mine as my intent will be to make it back to the house first. Handgun, yes!
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 07:47:34 AM »

The Harbor Freight magnesium firestarters are not good.
They are way too hard to shave any off to light, and even if you do they don't light well.
I even drilled a hole in one to make a magnesium ribbon from the thin piece that resulted.  It wouldn't stay lit like a typical magnesium ribbon should.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 07:51:38 AM »

Fire starter cubes...

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-24-Pack-Charcoal-Starters/3151081
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 07:57:12 AM »

Growing up in Alaska I always felt I was able and prepared to survive. Here in the desert, not so much. I'm afraid if something happened here it would be a stampede to the Colorado River to cool off.

You can get to the mogollon rim area in 2 to 3 hours maybe.  Also anywhere in the Prescott National Forest.  Much cooler and must be lots of water.  I knew of a guy, now passed on, that maintained a camp in that area and spent many days their every year.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2016, 08:13:55 AM »

  what kind of bag   I have one with internal metal frame (alice bag) and smaller bags

for water filtration forget tablets look at this enough potential for years of water
http://www.edisastersystems.com/store/Sawyer-Mini-Water-Filter.html?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=RY%20-%20Shopping(BSC)&utm_term=1101501188480&utm_content=All%20Products

We also have lifestraws but the one above is better

You are on the right track, but figure what you need for a week, a month and indefinitely

At home I am good for 60 days maybe more depends on how many we have to feed

The scotch and beer will run out in that time.

Think I saw you said first aid stuff   cooldude   IMHO
at least one Tramua bandage should be in the kit besides motrin/bandages/antiboitic cream/iodine and gauze and we also have arnica 30x and some stuff Bonnie makes (she is an herbalist)

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2016, 08:15:17 AM »

I have a good magnesium firestarter, like Chris says, Chinese knockoffs are crap.
I also have a pencil and pencil sharpener for curly tinder, little cotton 'thingies' for additional tinder, and a waterproof match container with strike anywhere matches.  The flashlight is a hand crank rechargable.

I use the term 'bug out' bag because it's recognizable.  In a true situation, living in the city, nothing would really work for long.  This doesn't fit in a true, everything's gone to hell situation. My back pack would be really for a minor situation like a snowstorm and a car that won't run, or caught in a power outage with no food.

Armageddan would be more like the movie "The Road"  IMHO.   Screwed, blued, and tatoo'ed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2016, 09:11:10 AM »

If you're short on cotton balls, save a batch of your dryer lint (once dried). I usually have it for general camping, campfires. For camping I'll stuff the center of a T.P. roll with a baggie of lint.

If you do happen to have any of those little containers of waterless hand sanitizer, the ethyl alcohol content is about 70% = highly flammable. Wipe a small amount on your lint or tinder material and it should spark up nicely. Many of the lip balms these days also have a flammable ingredient.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2016, 11:37:05 AM »

Touch a 9v battery to steel wool.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2016, 12:03:08 PM »

You guys remember all those bags I had ?

Yeah I got it

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2016, 12:35:15 PM »

Touch a 9v battery to steel wool.

But not a 12vt car battery...... boy was that a big mistake.  (At 16, you have a lot to learn)

Course I don't want a car battery in my bug out bag either.  Unless I'm only bugging out 30 feet.
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2016, 12:42:32 PM »

Touch a 9v battery to steel wool.

But not a 12vt car battery...... boy was that a big mistake.  (At 16, you have a lot to learn)

Course I don't want a car battery in my bug out bag either.  Unless I'm only bugging out 30 feet.

Same age I held 2 pieces of copper wire to touch a bulb with to check if it had blown.   uglystupid2

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2016, 02:23:04 PM »

Now sell the Miata and get a 4x4 and your set!  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2016, 02:45:42 PM »

   Wayne , I have the Henry survival rifle. It is a winner. O2S fired it when he was here last. Goes together fast and is accurate as the shooter. I use 22 hollow points.

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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2016, 02:47:35 PM »

   Boy am I ever ill prepared!
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2016, 04:03:56 PM »

it takes 2 nukes to wipe out the U.S.A. and 3 to wipe out Russia--they have 1751..we have 1 less
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2017, 11:10:22 AM »

I'm bugging in if it ever comes to it. Food, water, heat, shelter, ammo. Why leave?

Thinking of a "get home" bag that was mentioned though. The A1 build would fit nice in a small pack or a larger knapsack. With the pencil bbl and triangular handgaurds, the rifle is twice the weight of the A7, but to "get home" a few times more effective.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2017, 11:41:13 AM »

I have this one in tan. Very comfortable and very rugged with enough space for stuff to get me home even if a few days away by foot.

https://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-Jumbo-Versipack-OD-Green/dp/B001MT8RC6/ref=pd_ybh_a_60?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=ATKGVEBCKR3MKSS1NJ7N&th=1

And a good review on these bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70kPTiaD-bE
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2017, 06:20:14 AM »

I don't have a formal bug out bag, but I have 75 gallons of purified water on hand at all times because of my aquarium as well as a generator, water filtration equipment, etc... I also have a few firearms on hand, and if things get TOO bad, I own 18 acres with a cabin 50 miles from home (30 miles outside of the Dallas Metromess) that I keep enough resources stashed away in to live on for a week... I figure 1 week is the "Is society gonna come back or are we done for" time period...

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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2017, 11:44:53 AM »

Wife always says she would want to be one of the many who die. Me, I want to be one of those left alive. Love watching those movies, Postman, Book of Eli, etc.

I don't have a bug out bag, figure unless my home gets washed away, or burned down, all my stuff is here, this is where we are to meet. I have lots of bottled liquid (beer, pop, water), rice, cans and dried food. Firearms to protect my family and what is mine, and if real S&^% happens, to get what I need. The Fraser river is close by, figure I can always have semi clean water, so will look into that purifier that was posted above. There are also a lot of rabbits around my neighborhood, left over Easter gifts, I'll learn how to butcher real quick.
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2017, 11:54:10 AM »

I've completed my bugout bag.  Why? I don't know. An exercise .

Ive just bought an AR7 'Survival rifle' by Henry. As most know it's a 16.5" break down .22 with all parts housed in the stock. I know the history, AR stands for Armalite Rifle and the original AR7, like the Ar15, was designed by Stoner. The patent ran out and Henry is now making it. Reports are that it's much better than the Charter Arms production.  When it warms up I'll let you know how good it is after a range session.  Yeah, let's not get into the 10/22 breakdown, the Papoose, and all the rest. The AR7 fits into my digital camo bag along with the rest of my stuff.

This little 'exercise' gave me the excuse to buy a genuwine! Kabar knife but with the Army tag instead of the original US Marine tag.  I also have three different ways to start a fire, including tinder, a folding alcohol stove,  water filtration kit with water containers, small compass, two freeze dried meals, four space blankets, nylon cord. a flashlight, light sticks, etc.  I'm not expecting Armagedden but, like i said, an exercise, just to throw in the car.  Whaddya think?  Let's not get into a discussion  on how to 'improve' on my choice of the AR7   Grin Grin Grin
   A good fire starter lent from close dryer in that stash
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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2017, 12:00:44 PM »

I've completed my bugout bag.  Why? I don't know. An exercise .

Ive just bought an AR7 'Survival rifle' by Henry. As most know it's a 16.5" break down .22 with all parts housed in the stock. I know the history, AR stands for Armalite Rifle and the original AR7, like the Ar15, was designed by Stoner. The patent ran out and Henry is now making it. Reports are that it's much better than the Charter Arms production.  When it warms up I'll let you know how good it is after a range session.  Yeah, let's not get into the 10/22 breakdown, the Papoose, and all the rest. The AR7 fits into my digital camo bag along with the rest of my stuff.

This little 'exercise' gave me the excuse to buy a genuwine! Kabar knife but with the Army tag instead of the original US Marine tag.  I also have three different ways to start a fire, including tinder, a folding alcohol stove,  water filtration kit with water containers, small compass, two freeze dried meals, four space blankets, nylon cord. a flashlight, light sticks, etc.  I'm not expecting Armagedden but, like i said, an exercise, just to throw in the car.  Whaddya think?  Let's not get into a discussion  on how to 'improve' on my choice of the AR7   Grin Grin Grin
   A good fire starter lent from close dryer in that stash
Fritos Lays corn chips burn very well also they are food coolsmiley
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2017, 08:05:32 PM »

Wife always says she would want to be one of the many who die. Me, I want to be one of those left alive. Love watching those movies, Postman, Book of Eli, etc.

I don't have a bug out bag, figure unless my home gets washed away, or burned down, all my stuff is here, this is where we are to meet. I have lots of bottled liquid (beer, pop, water), rice, cans and dried food. Firearms to protect my family and what is mine, and if real S&^% happens, to get what I need. The Fraser river is close by, figure I can always have semi clean water, so will look into that purifier that was posted above. There are also a lot of rabbits around my neighborhood, left over Easter gifts, I'll learn how to butcher real quick.

Not all bags are "Bug Out" bags. I leave mine in my truck in case something happens and I need to get home where everything is.

On firestarters. Save your lint from the dryer and save some old egg crates. Get some gulf wax. Take the lint and divide it into portions to fill where the eggs normally lay. Pour Gulf wax into the lint. Super good fire starters and burns hot as Hell.
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