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« on: January 13, 2017, 05:07:24 PM »

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5281170655001/?#sp=show-clips

words just can't do this justice. amazing how butt hurt these people are. around the 4 min mark the lady speaking calls Trump a 'maniac".
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 05:33:54 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 05:48:29 PM »

Please explain the difference between this, and when a child has a tantrum, sticks her fingers in her ears, stomps her feet, and loudly exclaims....LAlalalalalala, I can't hear you!

If I can't get my way, I'll hold my breath until I pass out. 

There is no difference.

Ignore them.   If they cross the line, arrest, jail and prosecute them.

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 05:56:21 PM »

Such an interesting response from the folks that wish us all to be more liberal in our thinking.

Four and Eight years ago, I was extremely disappointed in who had been elected to the Oval Office and almost as disappointed in how the houses of Congress had swung to the left.   

But, while I and most of my friends were disappointed and some what disillusioned, we accepted the "will of the people" and sucked it up.    The people have again spoken, it should be an seamless and polished transition but, I suspect, it will be a huge mess.    The division in the country is growing by leaps and bounds, I sure am glad I'm on the Pro-Second Amendment side.   Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 06:03:09 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 06:11:03 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.

Meathead from what I've read of your posts I'd have to,agree with you but you have to admit the loons are crawling out of the wood work here since the election.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 06:25:09 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.

Meathead from what I've read of your posts I'd have to,agree with you but you have to admit the loons are crawling out of the wood work here since the election.
Maybe, it seems to me though it is more of a case that many of the right wing media need an opponent to drive their ratings. The election is over, so the opponent of Clinton is done. Obama is soon gone. Trump will soon be President. It's going to be up to him whether he tries to unite our country or continues to feed his base. The campaign is over, it's time to govern.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2017, 06:38:07 PM »


"We want to shut down the inauguration," organizer David Thurston told a news conference. "We want to see a seething rebellion develop in this city and across the country."


The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2017, 06:47:58 PM »


"We want to shut down the inauguration," organizer David Thurston told a news conference. "We want to see a seething rebellion develop in this city and across the country."


The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.


I am no expert at security. But I would think there would be enough law enforcement to arrest any who step over the line.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 06:54:07 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.

The problem is the leadership of the DNC for the last 12 years or so.
There has always been political corruption in this country on both sides of the aisle.

The DNC leadership has taken corruption to a profession.

This election cycle and particularly the post election, conduct by the democrat leadership has bordered on treason.

What makes this so cursed sad is the great people, who I may disagree with politically, who are getting creamed. You folks are like the innocent kids that ISIS hids behind. The democrat leadership have sold all of us down the road for the sake of their lust for power.

The GOP leadership has been scared of their own shadow for the last decade.

To me, one of the most endearing things about Pres. Bush was his willingness to put himself out there and stand on principle. You can debate the principle but he made the decisions and took the heat all while fighting the same media bias Trump is facing.

I think that is what Trump saw in Bush. Bush tried to be nice to the media. Proper, polite.
Obviously that didn't work so well. The media bashed the hell out of him.
Trump isn't going to be proper or polite but he will be fair. IMHO. I know the media has taken notice.
It is about time somebody put CNN in their place.

Back to the point. We've seen the Democrat leadership foster greater racial divide in the last 8 years, more class warfare, undermine our Law Enforcement (hanging a painting of police as pigs in the Capitol? Really?), encourage civil unrest to protest a lawful election in the greatest democracy in the world, sitting Congressmen questioning the legitimacy of President Trump and the list of such things are almost unending.

So in the face of all that chicken crap, it is hard to see the good eggs. I know they are out there. Hell, I used to be one. It is time to get your Democratic Party away from the dismal leadership and out of the gutter of corruption.
 
What is more is that this is the time to do it. A President with no political establishment agenda. A President with a reputation as a negotiator. A real Democrat Party would have the chance to make some real and effective change for the good of the country.

The opportunity is just amazing. But it would take real leadership to see it and right now the Democrats don't have it.





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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 06:55:45 PM »


"We want to shut down the inauguration," organizer David Thurston told a news conference. "We want to see a seething rebellion develop in this city and across the country."


The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.


I am no expert at security. But I would think there would be enough law enforcement to arrest any who step over the line.

Our border ?

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 07:20:38 PM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.

The problem is the leadership of the DNC for the last 12 years or so.
There has always been political corruption in this country on both sides of the aisle.

The DNC leadership has taken corruption to a profession.

This election cycle and particularly the post election, conduct by the democrat leadership has bordered on treason.

What makes this so cursed sad is the great people, who I may disagree with politically, who are getting creamed. You folks are like the innocent kids that ISIS hids behind. The democrat leadership have sold all of us down the road for the sake of their lust for power.

The GOP leadership has been scared of their own shadow for the last decade.

To me, one of the most endearing things about Pres. Bush was his willingness to put himself out there and stand on principle. You can debate the principle but he made the decisions and took the heat all while fighting the same media bias Trump is facing.

I think that is what Trump saw in Bush. Bush tried to be nice to the media. Proper, polite.
Obviously that didn't work so well. The media bashed the hell out of him.
Trump isn't going to be proper or polite but he will be fair. IMHO. I know the media has taken notice.
It is about time somebody put CNN in their place.

Back to the point. We've seen the Democrat leadership foster greater racial divide in the last 8 years, more class warfare, undermine our Law Enforcement (hanging a painting of police as pigs in the Capitol? Really?), encourage civil unrest to protest a lawful election in the greatest democracy in the world, sitting Congressmen questioning the legitimacy of President Trump and the list of such things are almost unending.

So in the face of all that chicken crap, it is hard to see the good eggs. I know they are out there. Hell, I used to be one. It is time to get your Democratic Party away from the dismal leadership and out of the gutter of corruption.
 
What is more is that this is the time to do it. A President with no political establishment agenda. A President with a reputation as a negotiator. A real Democrat Party would have the chance to make some real and effective change for the good of the country.

The opportunity is just amazing. But it would take real leadership to see it and right now the Democrats don't have it.






Well, where to begin ? First of all, it's not my Democratic Party. I have never been registered with either party. I am pretty close to 50-50 in my selection of president in my lifetime. Yes, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was in the bag for Clinton. But to say it's been that way for the last 12 years is mistaken. Regardless of his politics, Howard Dean ran it fair and square to all candidates. Unless there is something I'm not aware of. I don't see anything close to Treason by any of them. I agree with your assessment of Bush. He might have made mistakes, but he was and is an honorable man. To say Trump isn't going to be polite with the media but will be fair is wrong on many levels. There are many examples of his wrongness, but just remember how he treated the journalist who had the neurological handicap. The painting you are referring to is part of an Art Exhibition by young people. It has nothing to do with Democratic Leadership. Civil unrest or protest is part of our freedoms. Surely you don't want our freedoms curtailed ? Sitting Congressmen questioning the legitamacy of our president ? Oh brother ! Give me a break. Have you not seen the questioning of Obama's legitamacy over the last 8 years ?
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 07:22:03 PM »


"We want to shut down the inauguration," organizer David Thurston told a news conference. "We want to see a seething rebellion develop in this city and across the country."


The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.


I am no expert at security. But I would think there would be enough law enforcement to arrest any who step over the line.

Our border ?

Dan
2funny no, I meant stepping over the line of breaking the law.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 09:06:28 PM »

Stepping over the line IS breaking the law. Ask those who used force to create those lines that ARE our country

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2017, 01:21:52 AM »

Liberals have simply gone over the edge with their hate.  I fear this is just the beginning of their hateful nonsense.
Lumping all who are "liberal" into this kind of thinking is mistaken. I'm sure you would consider me liberal, but I have no desire to disrupt, protest, or hate. I'm sure there are some who do, but to think the majority are like that is wrong.

The problem is the leadership of the DNC for the last 12 years or so.
There has always been political corruption in this country on both sides of the aisle.

The DNC leadership has taken corruption to a profession.

This election cycle and particularly the post election, conduct by the democrat leadership has bordered on treason.

What makes this so cursed sad is the great people, who I may disagree with politically, who are getting creamed. You folks are like the innocent kids that ISIS hids behind. The democrat leadership have sold all of us down the road for the sake of their lust for power.

The GOP leadership has been scared of their own shadow for the last decade.

To me, one of the most endearing things about Pres. Bush was his willingness to put himself out there and stand on principle. You can debate the principle but he made the decisions and took the heat all while fighting the same media bias Trump is facing.

I think that is what Trump saw in Bush. Bush tried to be nice to the media. Proper, polite.
Obviously that didn't work so well. The media bashed the hell out of him.
Trump isn't going to be proper or polite but he will be fair. IMHO. I know the media has taken notice.
It is about time somebody put CNN in their place.

Back to the point. We've seen the Democrat leadership foster greater racial divide in the last 8 years, more class warfare, undermine our Law Enforcement (hanging a painting of police as pigs in the Capitol? Really?), encourage civil unrest to protest a lawful election in the greatest democracy in the world, sitting Congressmen questioning the legitimacy of President Trump and the list of such things are almost unending.

So in the face of all that chicken crap, it is hard to see the good eggs. I know they are out there. Hell, I used to be one. It is time to get your Democratic Party away from the dismal leadership and out of the gutter of corruption.
 
What is more is that this is the time to do it. A President with no political establishment agenda. A President with a reputation as a negotiator. A real Democrat Party would have the chance to make some real and effective change for the good of the country.

The opportunity is just amazing. But it would take real leadership to see it and right now the Democrats don't have it.







Mike,

Some of your points have merit, but to have an issue with anyone questioning trump's legitimacy is ludicrous. have you been around for the last eight years? No sitting President has had to endure the constant obstruction and harassment that Obama has had to deal with for his whole Presidency.

I wasn't a fan of Bush, but I never saw him as evil and malicious like I see in trump. He was just incompetent in many ways. i think history will treat him kinder than he might deserve, but I can accept that. trump hasn't even taken office yet, and he's had more scandals than Obama had in eight years....and to be honest, I can't think of any true 'scandals' at all for the last eight years. I know that'll open up a big can of worms, but so be it.

Respectfully,

Bob
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2017, 03:45:51 AM »


Some of your points have merit, but to have an issue with anyone questioning trump's legitimacy is ludicrous.

have you been around for the last eight years? No sitting President has had to endure the constant obstruction and harassment that Obama has had to deal with for his whole Presidency.

 trump hasn't even taken office yet, and he's had more scandals than Obama had in eight years....and to be honest, I can't think of any true 'scandals' at all for the last eight years. I know that'll open up a big can of worms, but so be it.

Respectfully,

Bob


Its not the questioning from people who question Trump's legitimacy, its the extent to which the liberals feel justified in doing it while not addressing the real issues of flagrant cost and corruption of Obama office. In no time past has this type of "questioning" led to violent protests, not my president, inauguration disruption, refusing to play at inaugurations the slander in all sorts of media. That is the issue and the examples of the overboard condemnation of the incoming president. It seems that proper decorum has gone out the door and anything goes to express the liberals dislike. Including the disruption of congress and sit ins. So push back occurs from many who have been silent in the past and that is what won Trumps presidency.

Obama had what Trump had in the beginning and blew it. Obama had "total control" of the House and Senate for two full years." Instead of taking that precious time to make the country better he taxed the hell out of us, instituted unjust social programs to help the poor, and forgot about the bread and butter of America the middle class.

  I always use the example of our interest going up on our credit cards shortly after Obama came into office because he eliminated banking penalties. Cash for clunkers, the bail out was continued under Obama and the loss of peoples houses was under Obama. There was much talk and NO actions taken many people lost houses and saw no money from the bail out. Obama could not even make rules to stop making it easy for banks to take houses, yet could pass Obama care. So is it any wonder that after the people saw where all this was going that many wanted to stop the steam roller costing them thousands. The Obama administration that ran on hope, change and being the most open administration had failed miserably in the first 2 years when they had total control. That is when resistance started to mount and of course any sane people would object to these changes. 

The fact that you see no scandals is only a example of the blind scary following that allowed the Obama to run rampant against constitutional laws, freedom of speech, unserptation of power and why today we have moonbeams.

My fervency in and hope in Trump and not listening to the liberals is a fact that Obama has personally cost me and others thousands each year in extra costs. With no return on that money while not reining in the misuse of that money in the government. I am one among many, that can document the financial cost of Obama's presidency on me personally and those around me.

Obama care is the easiest cost documentation to us all. Its a tax, when he said he would not raise taxes in his campaign to be elected. To many we are talking about not, 1 or 2 thousand a year but 10 to 20 thousand a year taken out of peoples pockets. This is the biggest tax increase by any president in history.

When you hear the liberal values of caring for the poor, no voter id and compare it to the cost and lack of concern of Obama presidency to those who foot the bill it is enough to make me and others want  Obama out.  Liberals dont seem to be concerned for the financial burden Obama has placed on middle class and all people. Then the endorsement of Hillary with corruption and continuing policies of Obama and endorsing more of the same is it any wonder that the liberals would be considered not able to govern and non caring and moonbeams.






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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2017, 05:12:25 AM »

One last ditch effort to create national mayham, martial law and no new President?  Doubtful, and it would be a long shot, but I think the whackos planning this could think it possible.  crazy2
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2017, 05:48:20 AM »

They should draw a line and announce over loud speakers that if that line is crossed the will be shot. Bet they would only have to shoot 2 or 3 brave snowflakes.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2017, 05:51:45 AM »



Obama had what Trump had in the beginning and blew it. Obama had "total control" of the House and Senate for two full years." Instead of taking that precious time to make the country better he taxed the hell out of us, instituted unjust social programs to help the poor, and forgot about the bread and butter of America the middle class.

 



You'll need to check your calendar....

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2012/09/the-myth-of-the-filibuster-proof-democratic-senate/

As far as the rest of your claims, Obama might have been able to make some progress on your slate of issues, but he had to deal with the most obstructionist Congress in history, which didn't really help.

Do you remember this little gem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2r0lxndnsE

Now how much help do you think Obama was able to count on with that attitude?
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2017, 06:17:22 AM »

Some of your points have merit, but to have an issue with anyone questioning trump's legitimacy is ludicrous. have you been around for the last eight years? No sitting President has had to endure the constant obstruction and harassment that Obama has had to deal with for his whole Presidency.


Bob


Bob,
My only response is this:  It's all a matter of perspective.   IMHO, our current President (Obama) got what he gave.   His attitude, policies, demeanor, executive actions combined with forcing his ideas of what this country should be over the objections of those who didn't support his ideas were a direct response to what he gave.   Obama II (Hilary) got what Obama, Pelosi, Dirty Harry Reid and Hilary  (herself) promised to continue.    The liberal media will ensure any protestors get as much coverage as it can.   Personally, I blame that same media for much of the division occurring within this country.
It's social construction of what they think we should be.   I don't appreciate it.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2017, 07:40:58 AM »

Hey thanks I did actually check my calander but I also checked the facts not my emotions.

From your article,

How is that possible, you ask?  Everybody says that the Democrats had a full filibuster-proof majority?  

Now the truth,

Fillibuster proof is a sort of going around the truth, since not only did the Democrates use filibuster more than the Republicans but no one said that it was not possible to get Obamas bills past without fillibuster proof super majority. So another lie or distortion.  

111th United States Congress
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The One Hundred Eleventh United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011. It began during the last two weeks of the George W. Bush administration, with the remainder spanning the first two years of Barack Obama's presidency. It was composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The apportionment of seats in the House was based on the 2000 U.S. Census. In the November 4, 2008 elections, the Democratic Party increased its majorities in both chambers, giving President Obama a Democratic majority in the legislature for the first two years of his presidency.

The amount of legislation that is listed in the Wikipedia page that is passed is pretty extensive and all geared to changing the government under Obama. Especially giving handouts the reinvestment act cost taxpayers 900 billion and was a failure just to name one.

AS for the video I wished he had been successful.  Cry
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2017, 09:20:06 AM »

Hey thanks I did actually check my calander but I also checked the facts not my emotions.

From your article,

How is that possible, you ask?  Everybody says that the Democrats had a full filibuster-proof majority?  

Now the truth,

Fillibuster proof is a sort of going around the truth, since not only did the Democrates use filibuster more than the Republicans but no one said that it was not possible to get Obamas bills past without fillibuster proof super majority. So another lie or distortion.  

111th United States Congress
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress

The One Hundred Eleventh United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011. It began during the last two weeks of the George W. Bush administration, with the remainder spanning the first two years of Barack Obama's presidency. It was composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The apportionment of seats in the House was based on the 2000 U.S. Census. In the November 4, 2008 elections, the Democratic Party increased its majorities in both chambers, giving President Obama a Democratic majority in the legislature for the first two years of his presidency.

The amount of legislation that is listed in the Wikipedia page that is passed is pretty extensive and all geared to changing the government under Obama. Especially giving handouts the reinvestment act cost taxpayers 900 billion and was a failure just to name one.

AS for the video I wished he had been successful.  :'(


Bob,

That Wikipedia article is not accurate. I saw that when I first googled it, but I know things were mucky when Ted Kennedy passed. Read my article to the end and you'll see that there was no 2 years of filibuster-proof majority. More like 70-80 days.....

As far as simple number of filibusters, you've got that wrong also....

Excerpt from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/21/1486973/-How-Republicans-turned-the-unprecedented-into-the-new-normal

Setting the Filibuster Record

filibuster_nominees.png
As it has turned out, during the Obama years Republicans have made sure the Senate rarely has the capacity to do any business at all.

By 2013, the GOP had filibustered 27 of Obama's executive branch nominees, compared to just seven during Dubya's eight years in office. As Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who once demanded an “up-or-down vote” on President Bush’s nominees, proclaimed three years ago during the confirmation process for Republican Chuck Hagel as Obama’s new Secretary of Defense:

“There is a 60-vote threshold for every nomination.”
If that seems at odds with the traditional understanding that a simple majority wins in the Senate, that’s because Mitch McConnell’s Republicans simply did away with tradition for nominations and just about everything else.

When they weren't filibustering people, the GOP was blocking legislation at more than twice the rate of any previous Congress. (The GOP Senate minority actually started that practice during the last two years of President Bush's tenure. As Republican Sen. Trent Lott put it in 2007, "The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail. So far it's working for us.")

As even Robert Samuelson (yet again, no friend of Democrats) acknowledged, "From 2003 to 2006, when Republicans controlled the Senate, they filed cloture 130 times to break Democratic filibusters. Since 2007, when Democrats took charge, they've filed 257 cloture motions." The Republicans didn't merely eviscerate the old mark for cloture motions and filibusters after their descent into the minority in 2007. As Paul Krugman detailed in late 2009, the GOP's obstructionism has fundamentally altered how the Senate does—or more accurately, doesn't do—business:

The political scientist Barbara Sinclair has done the math. In the 1960s, she finds, "extended-debate-related problems" -- threatened or actual filibusters -- affected only 8 percent of major legislation. By the 1980s, that had risen to 27 percent. But after Democrats retook control of Congress in 2006 and Republicans found themselves in the minority, it soared to 70 percent.
Now, as the Washington Post concluded four years ago, total obstructionism is the new normal for Republicans.

Republicans broke the record for filibusters...and it wasn't even close.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2017, 02:58:21 PM »

You are talking about a supermajority that is not able to be filibustered. But there was still a majority of Democrat's up till 2010 which enabled Obama to make deals to get what he wanted done passed. That is the only difference. No where do I see the name Arlen Specter either who was a Republican and then becomes a Democrat in April 28, 2009. The switch puts Senate Democrats one vote shy of a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats at the time. They can reach the 60-seat mark if Al Franken holds his current lead in the disputed Minnesota Senate race which he did months later. This does not also speak of the independents that got the ACA bill passed since 2 joined the Democrat's.

Another example of how the votes went for Obama
The ACA On December 23, the Senate voted 60–39 to end debate on the bill: a cloture vote to end the filibuster. The bill then passed, also 60–39, on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents voting for it, and all Republicans against (except Jim Bunning, who did not vote).


On January 19, 2010, Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown was elected to the Senate in a special election to replace Kennedy, having campaigned on giving the Republican minority the 41st vote needed to sustain Republican filibusters. His victory had become significant because of its effects on the legislative process. The first was psychological: the symbolic importance of losing Kennedy's traditionally Democratic Massachusetts seat made many Congressional Democrats concerned about the political cost of passing a bill.

It was after 2010 that the Democrat's lost control and Obama was blocked but No where ever does it say that the Democrat's lost a majority of the seats though. But Obama still had pen and phone and executive orders to do his deeds. A good portion of the articles mention later votes and confirmations after 2010. So Obama did essentially have a free pass till 2010 when Kennedy's seat was given to the Republicans.

Longtime GOP Sen. Arlen Specter becomes Democrat
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/
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Yup and that all started because the picture that the boy painted that made the Police look like pigs was posted in Washington and just recently was found to violate the entry rules so finally the painting will come down. Fox news actually got the heat/acclaim for bringing it to the attention of all.  cooldude
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2017, 04:10:10 PM »

They should draw a line and announce over loud speakers that if that line is crossed the will be shot. Bet they would only have to shoot 2 or 3 brave snowflakes.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2017, 04:45:24 PM »

They should draw a line and announce over loud speakers that if that line is crossed the will be shot. Bet they would only have to shoot 2 or 3 brave snowflakes.
Bikers For Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnHKaJw2jZQ

Stuart Varney interviewed Chris Cox also a day or two ago I believe.  To get a bit more insight into this group and some of the good things they have done that no one knows about you can go to a Washington Post article.  I myself wish I could be with them but business and distance does not allow this, but I will be with them in spirit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/meet-the-biker-hosting-the-biggest-pro-trump-demonstration-at-the-inauguration/2017/01/13/e6d3abec-d69d-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html?utm_term=.3db7adbc6756

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2017, 04:38:42 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2017, 06:18:08 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2017, 06:30:32 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.

What is it Mad Dog Mattis says? Some people just need killed. Yep, that goes for Al Sharpton
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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2017, 07:37:02 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.

What is it Mad Dog Mattis says? Some people just need killed. Yep, that goes for Al Sharpton
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Did you happen to see the disruptions at the cabinet selection approval/disapproval hearings?
Dumb asses the lot of them.
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2017, 08:15:37 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.

What is it Mad Dog Mattis says? Some people just need killed. Yep, that goes for Al Sharpton
That would just turn that piece of garbage into a martyr for the haters....there is plenty of trash waiting to replace that rotting piece of litter when it is swept up.
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2017, 08:59:50 AM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.

What is it Mad Dog Mattis says? Some people just need killed. Yep, that goes for Al Sharpton
You would have Al Sharpton killed because he is protesting in a march ?
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2017, 09:04:04 AM »

Surprised Al Sharpton is alive anyway. That little chicken neck of his can barely hold up that corrupt head. Looks like it should snap at any time
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2017, 11:49:16 AM »

I think the official term is race baiter.
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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2017, 12:29:38 PM »

I think the official term is race baiter.
George Soros is one of a small number of billionaire contributors who fund the haters.  Soros and others of his ilk should be eliminated...erased...imprisoned...whatever...just gone. Treason should include the attempt to poison society...the sickness has been injected by our complicit educators from K through Post Graduate...for example... discouraging the use of everyday "trigger"words, not keeping score at local sports events for children to, handing out participation trophies just for being there to, supplying safe rooms for the brainwashed  post secondary snowflakes and on...and on.
It is time to end all this political correctness bullshit...it is ruining us. The MSM is a very willing partner in the spreading of this sickness.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2017, 04:47:35 PM »

I think the official term is race baiter.
George Soros is one of a small number of billionair contributors who fund the haters Soros and others of his ilk should be eliminated...erased...imprisoned...whatever...just gone. Treason should include the attempt to poison society...the sickness has been injected by our complicit educators from K through Post Graduate...for example... discouraging the use of everyday "trigger"words, not keeping score at local sports events for children to, handing out participation trophies just for being there to, supplying safe rooms for the brainwashed  post secondary snowflakes and on...and on.
It is time to end all this political correctness bullshit...it is ruining us. The MSM is a very willing partner in the spreading of this sickness.

I am posting 2 videos that I think you will like, one takes the US from the early years till now and how oil and the profits has shaped the world as we know it.

US Citizens, This Is What They Don't Want You To Know
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This one talks about the defeat of Clinton and what it really meant along with the current events.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffECyFMLps
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2017, 05:29:53 PM »

It can be debated back and forth all day, but in the end, some people just love fighting, chaos, and disruption. They just want to watch the world burn! Unfortunately, it's now a country divided!
Just saw a report where  folks were marching and protesting and who did I see out front at one of the marches? The devil Al Sharpton. The man knows how to do nothing but stir crap.

What is it Mad Dog Mattis says? Some people just need killed. Yep, that goes for Al Sharpton
You would have Al Sharpton killed because he is protesting in a march ?

That question is not even worthy of an answer.  uglystupid2
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