Spinning the "News", Inauguration Numbers and what''s reported.

[Rams]

There's a lot of discussion about the numbers at President Trump's Inauguration.  

It does appear the numbers were lower for people actually attending versus the "compared to" Obama's inauguration.    I'm OK with that.   While not interested in attending either one, I did watch both on television.   It would seem though that there were quite a few who were watching.   What I find very interesting is that I had to go find this information and have not heard a word about it from the main stream press or news outlets.    It would seem "they" are not about to show any "Pro" Trump information.    YMMV

Trump inauguration ratings second biggest in 36 years


http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/21/trump-inauguration-ratings/

Donald Trump’s inauguration ratings were the second-highest in 36 years, according to Nielsen.
The swearing-in of the 45th president was seen by 30.6 million viewers across 12 networks.
The only inauguration over the last three decades that tops Trump’s number in the linear ratings? Barack Obama’s first inauguration back in 2009, which had a record-setting 37.8 million viewers.
Before that, you’d have to go all the way back to Ronald Reagan in 1981, who was seen by 41.8 million viewers (Nielsen tracks inauguration ratings back to 1969).
The numbers are all the more remarkable considering Trump is entering into office with rather low approval ratings compared to past presidents and sparked protests worldwide along with vows to not watch his inauguration.
And actually, Trump might have been seen by more viewers than either Obama or Reagan. Nielsen ratings do not account for online viewing, which has grown sharply in recent years and is far more commonplace than even four years ago. CNN, for example, clocked 16.9 million streams on its website, tying with Election Day for the site’s top event.

Fox News topped all networks with its coverage, averaging 8.8 million viewers for the day and peaking with 11 million viewers from noon to 1 p.m. This was the highest-rated inauguration coverage in the network’s history. While on broadcast, NBC was first with 5.8 million viewers for the day.

There is a chart from Nielsen of Inauguration Day coverage ratings over the years in the linked article but, it won't copy and paste for me. The column on the far right, “Persons 2+,” represents Total Viewers in millions.

It would appear that the "news" is somewhat slanted.   Some will never agree.   Some of us, actually had work.    

 
  

[Alpha Dog]

I had hoped to see it but worked 13 hours starting at 5 am, but listened on the radio and of course caught endless clips.  I am surprised by Reagan's 41 plus million ( would have expected more ) because at that time there was not much else on tv to see although some areas did have limited cable networks.  I guess it has always been partisan.  As for ratings when you dig into the sample you find only 23 and 24 percent republicans were used, while 36 percent view themselves as conservative.  So the ratings are skewed by the same folks who used bad dynamics to get the election polls wrong.  They use it to push their narrative.

[Robert]

Unfortunately the news media and pollsters are still entrenched in the same ownership and therefore subject to the same bias as when it was predicted that Hillary would win by a landslide. We can no longer trust them in their reporting.

[baldo]

There's a lot of discussion about the numbers at President Trump's Inauguration.  

It does appear the numbers were lower for people actually attending versus the "compared to" Obama's inauguration.    I'm OK with that.   While not interested in attending either one, I did watch both on television.   It would seem though that there were quite a few who were watching.   What I find very interesting is that I had to go find this information and have not heard a word about it from the main stream press or news outlets.    It would seem "they" are not about to show any "Pro" Trump information.    YMMV

Trump inauguration ratings second biggest in 36 years


http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/21/trump-inauguration-ratings/

Donald Trump’s inauguration ratings were the second-highest in 36 years, according to Nielsen.
The swearing-in of the 45th president was seen by 30.6 million viewers across 12 networks.
The only inauguration over the last three decades that tops Trump’s number in the linear ratings? Barack Obama’s first inauguration back in 2009, which had a record-setting 37.8 million viewers.
Before that, you’d have to go all the way back to Ronald Reagan in 1981, who was seen by 41.8 million viewers (Nielsen tracks inauguration ratings back to 1969).
The numbers are all the more remarkable considering Trump is entering into office with rather low approval ratings compared to past presidents and sparked protests worldwide along with vows to not watch his inauguration.
And actually, Trump might have been seen by more viewers than either Obama or Reagan. Nielsen ratings do not account for online viewing, which has grown sharply in recent years and is far more commonplace than even four years ago. CNN, for example, clocked 16.9 million streams on its website, tying with Election Day for the site’s top event.

Fox News topped all networks with its coverage, averaging 8.8 million viewers for the day and peaking with 11 million viewers from noon to 1 p.m. This was the highest-rated inauguration coverage in the network’s history. While on broadcast, NBC was first with 5.8 million viewers for the day.

There is a chart from Nielsen of Inauguration Day coverage ratings over the years in the linked article but, it won't copy and paste for me. The column on the far right, “Persons 2+,” represents Total Viewers in millions.

It would appear that the "news" is somewhat slanted.   Some will never agree.   Some of us, actually had work.    

 
  

People watch NASCAR for more than the races, too....they know there's a wreck right around the corner....

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've only seen pics. It doesn't really mean much whether there were 50,000 people or 50 million. But he sure is taking it personally. Sending his people out to try to please his ego with "alternate facts" is a rough start.

[baldo]

I've only seen pics. It doesn't really mean much whether there were 50,000 people or 50 million. But he sure is taking it personally. Sending his people out to try to please his ego with "alternate facts" is a rough start.

"alternate facts"  LOLOLOLOL.........

[Serk]

[old2soon]

             Attendance-I M H O-don't matter. I just checked and near as I could tell
                  Donald John Trump is STILL P O T U S.  RIDE SAFE.

[Roadog]

 50,000 , 100,000 or even 1,000,000 ............They (dnc) just didn't get enough votes,...did they !

Everybody ride safe.
Roadog

[Moonshot_1]

The real reason for less attendance at the inaugurals was after 8 years of Obama tens of thousands no longer could afford to go.

Seems pretty irrelevant to me.

2009 we had the first black President ever. Historic right there in it's own right.
The inauguration was in Washington, DC a city with a predominantly Black population.
The media presented Obama and his candidacy in a positive light. As I recall a virtual love fest.
And Obama, at the time, was a spectacular orator. Quite inspirational at the time to the young electorate in particular. I think he has since lost a good bit of that ability

I would expect the kind of crowds they had.

As to Trump
Historically - no real historic dynamic except perhaps 1st President with no Military or Elected Political history.
Media continues to legitimize and undermine him way beyond the pale. Really unprecedented.
Not a particularly good orator. Though he does make up for it when not using teleprompter at times .
Violence threat was high.
Weather was crappy
And most of the people that were there made reservations and booked hotels a year and a half ago expecting Hillary to be taking the oath. That is why the big woman march on the weekend and all around the country happened. They were committed to be there anyway.

I'd be pissed at Trump too if I booked rooms, rented cars, booked flights, made commitments, bought the new clothes, to go and welcome Madame President on perhaps the most extraordinary inauguration day in Women's history and instead got President Trump.

He had the crowd I would have expected.

[Rams]

People watch NASCAR for more than the races, too....they know there's a wreck right around the corner....

While that may in fact be true, that doesn't change the obvious appearance that the media is slanted against President Trump.    IOWs, let no news go out that in some way does not show him and his administration in a bad light.   

Similar to testifying in court, we should be told the whole truth and nothing but the truth.   Not just what the Liberal or Conservative media spins out.

[rocketray]

it was raining at Trumps....

[bagelboy]

I was telling my wife that I had read Time magazine wrote that Trump had taken down MLK's bust and put Winston Churchill's in its place. What I didn't know til last night was, later, when called out, the writer said he made a mistake and didn't see it. Talk about lame reporting. If I were Trump, I would put all reporters on notice that if they report false news, they will be blackballed and no access will be permitted. Period!

[Rams]

I was telling my wife that I had read Time magazine wrote that Trump had taken down MLK's bust and put Winston Churchill's in its place. What I didn't know til last night was, later, when called out, the writer said he made a mistake and didn't see it. Talk about lame reporting. If I were Trump, I would put all reporters on notice that if they report false news, they will be blackballed and no access will be permitted. Period!

According to Kelly Conway, Presidential Advisor, MLK's bust is still present and in it's place in the WH.   Was not moved.    As I've said several times, the news is slanted or in this case anything bad to make President Trumps Administration look bad.   

The Press has a lot of work to do to build up/restore it's reputation for fair and balanced news.   I doubt I'll ever trust we they tell us unless I personally witness it.

[baldo]

Lolol....now you're talkin'.

[baldo]

it was raining at Trumps....

 

[LandElephant]

The shame of it all is exactly what you are trying to say Ron, that believing either side of the media appears foolish.  Where are the Walter Cronkitts (pardon the spelling) of the past.  He was a die hard liberal but only told the news as facts without his personal opinion.

Charlie Morse
Land Elephant

[DirtyDan]

My first concert, my favorite metal band

Dan

[Serk]

Lolol....now you're talkin'.

My first concert, my favorite metal band

My favorite band, of any type. And the elder spawn has FINALLY gotten old enough to get mommy's approval to take her to see them. (Seeing as I took elder spawn and maternal unit to see Slayer a few months ago, and they both ended up in the mosh pit and had the time of their lives.)

And Iron Maiden are doing a North American tour this summer.

And in a cruel twist of fate, they day they'll be playing here in Dallas is the day I need to leave here and head north if I'm going to Inzane...

*Sigh*

Decisions, decisions...

[baldo]

Lolol....now you're talkin'.

My first concert, my favorite metal band

My favorite band, of any type. And the elder spawn has FINALLY gotten old enough to get mommy's approval to take her to see them. (Seeing as I took elder spawn and maternal unit to see Slayer a few months ago, and they both ended up in the mosh pit and had the time of their lives.)

And Iron Maiden are doing a North American tour this summer.

And in a cruel twist of fate, they day they'll be playing here in Dallas is the day I need to leave here and head north if I'm going to Inzane...

*Sigh*

Decisions, decisions...

You know which one you REALLY want to do.....

[DirtyDan]

Question...... could you see the show. Then "ride hard" and maybe be late ?

[Serk]

You know which one you REALLY want to do.....

Coin toss maybe?

Question...... could you see the show. Then "ride hard" and maybe be late ?

I could, but..... I'll have a fidgety 14 year old girl on the back.

I'm planning on leaving EARLY Friday morning, and the Iron Maiden concert in Dallas is Friday EVENING. It would be tough, and would cut out the "Ride around Colorado for a day" I've got planned for Saturday.

Keep in mind, the 14 year old has never seen a mountain bigger than Guadalupe Peak here in Texas at just under 9,000 feet. I really want her to get a chance to see some real mountains.

[Oss]

alternate realities,

Obama was historic, like watching the beatles to some.........

over 31 million saw Trump on tv

Many more streamed online  I myself watched on Yahoo and thought it was pithy

But really....who cares that its news how many saw something?

The media has shown their true colors and will never be trusted by many ever again
Watch the nitely news?  Anything but drug company commercials?  Guess who OWNS the media abc cbs nbc even fox

Newspapers for the most part no better

[Robert]

Its a shame that more people came out to see a racially motivated election of a black man elected to office than someone who is going to turn the US around. Hope and change was the platform he ran on and I see he dashed the hopes of many and took the US down the tubes. Black, white it shouldnt have mattered what should have mattered is the mans performance which we knew so little of since he promised one thing and went the other way.

[Patrick]

Its a shame that more people came out to see a racially motivated election of a black man elected to office than someone who is going to turn the US around. Hope and change was the platform he ran on and I see he dashed the hopes of many and took the US down the tubes. Black, white it shouldnt have mattered what should have mattered is the mans performance which we knew so little of since he promised one thing and went the other way.

Just last night one of our friends was yelling at us about how obama was the best president we have ever had and how terrible  Mr Trump will be.  Its never ending.

[Willow]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

[Alpha Dog]

Heard a lady call in to Herman Cain this morning.  She went to the inauguration and had been to a previous  Bush one also.  She noted at Bush the mall was open to just walk in from any direction as it was at the O also.  With Trump they had only 2 entrances which forced choke points in which lines were endless.  She said many people were walking a mile or more just to find the entrance, so many just gave up.  She also noted protestor ( being the peaceful and loving king they are ) also blocked off and forced people to take circuitous routes or just give up.  The price was to be held to 50 dollars ( for the run of the mill folks like me ).  Not that it makes any difference to me who's was larger, I am sure the O one was as people just came from their houses and not across the country so much at a large expense.

I also remember some of the O attendees being interviewed.  They were ecstatic saying O was going to pay for their car, then pay for the gas to put in it, and also house payments.  Me thinks they got hoodwinked. Oh well, live and learn.

[Skinhead]

You know which one you REALLY want to do.....

Coin toss maybe?

Question...... could you see the show. Then "ride hard" and maybe be late ?

I could, but..... I'll have a fidgety 14 year old girl on the back.

I'm planning on leaving EARLY Friday morning, and the Iron Maiden concert in Dallas is Friday EVENING. It would be tough, and would cut out the "Ride around Colorado for a day" I've got planned for Saturday.

Keep in mind, the 14 year old has never seen a mountain bigger than Guadalupe Peak here in Texas at just under 9,000 feet. I really want her to get a chance to see some real mountains.

Dude, no contest.  If this is her first time to the Rockies, she'll be more stoked than at the concert, IMHO.  (BUT THEN I'M AN OLD GEEZER)

[The emperor has no clothes]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

[Willow]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

I'm not really close enough to the President to know how he truly feels about anything.  If you are referring to your assumption about offense at "news" media being misleading or untruthful that is,of course, a different subject. I was speaking only of some reasons why the attendance might not be the same at two different inaugurations. 

[Chrisj CMA]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

From what I heard President Trump say it wasn't as much about proving the numbers as it was about exposing "fake" and "twisted" and wrong news...lies by the media.  I think Trump is trying to send the press a message, they should start doing their job instead of leaning the way of the highest payer.

[Oss]

" Gotcha" news is counterproductive

Is the mission to repair the USA or to show who can piss the furthest?

That said, I am not a fan of tweeting and why is it tweet and not fish taco(ed) in the past tense?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

I'm not really close enough to the President to know how he truly feels about anything.  If you are referring to your assumption about offense at "news" media being misleading or untruthful that is,of course, a different subject. I was speaking only of some reasons why the attendance might not be the same at two different inaugurations. 

I'm not really close with him either. But when your Press Secretary comes out with "Alternate Facts" that gives the impression that it bothers him to a large extent.

[The emperor has no clothes]

" Gotcha" news is counterproductive

Is the mission to repair the USA or to show who can piss the furthest?

That said, I am not a fan of tweeting and why is it tweet and not fish taco(ed) in the past tense?

I am going to refer to it as a fish taco from here on out. 
He grabs them by the pussy as he's twatting. Has a nice ring to it.

[3fan4life]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

I'm not really close enough to the President to know how he truly feels about anything.  If you are referring to your assumption about offense at "news" media being misleading or untruthful that is,of course, a different subject. I was speaking only of some reasons why the attendance might not be the same at two different inaugurations. 

I'm not really close with him either. But when your Press Secretary comes out with "Alternate Facts" that gives the impression that it bothers him to a large extent.

I agree with Chris.

I don't think that it is about being "Butt Hurt" at all.

I think that it is about putting the press on notice that they will be call out for misrepresenting the truth.

[Willow]

Just a few points to consider.  Hotel rooms in D.C. were reported to be $1000 per night and were largely reserved by those planning to be at Clinton's inauguration, perhaps some of the ones in the "protest" marches.  Residents of the area did not need hotel rooms.  Would these be some of the folks highly motivated to attend Barrack Obama's inauguration?  Weather at Trump's inauguration was predicted to be rainy.  I watched the inauguration on television.  I would not have considered attending for $1000 or even $300 per night though I am at this point a strong President Trump supporter. 

All excellent points. But why would our president be so butt hurt about it ?

I'm not really close enough to the President to know how he truly feels about anything.  If you are referring to your assumption about offense at "news" media being misleading or untruthful that is,of course, a different subject. I was speaking only of some reasons why the attendance might not be the same at two different inaugurations. 

I'm not really close with him either. But when your Press Secretary comes out with "Alternate Facts" that gives the impression that it bothers him to a large extent.

LOL!   Well, I don't have a press secretary but if I did and he came out with alternate facts it would appear that his concern was with untruthful or misleading reporting.  Then again, that is so common it's surprising anyone would be offended by misleading news organizations.

[Willow]

Congratulations, baldo.  You found the line.

Whenever you refer to the President of the United States as a sociopath your post on this board will be removed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Congratulations, baldo.  You found the line.

Whenever you refer to the President of the United States as a sociopath your post on this board will be removed.

Is this a new policy ?

[Willow]

Congratulations, baldo.  You found the line.

Whenever you refer to the President of the United States as a sociopath your post on this board will be removed.

Is this a new policy ?

It's my responsibility.  I took an oath many years ago.  In the past I have written off people who used to be my friends because they couldn't speak respectfully of Barrack Obama, a man of whom I did not approve and thought he was bad for America.  Baldo found my line.  If someone doesn't like that line I'll be happy to refund their dues and help them move along.

I've had more than enough.  

Just so you know, Mama is at the doctor's.  It appears the hernia surgery she had eleven months ago has reversed itself.  This is probably not a good day to mess with me.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Congratulations, baldo.  You found the line.

Whenever you refer to the President of the United States as a sociopath your post on this board will be removed.

Is this a new policy ?

It's my responsibility.  I took an oath many years ago.  In the past I have written off people who used to be my friends because they couldn't speak respectfully of Barrack Obama, a man of whom I did not approve and thought he was bad for America.  Baldo found my line.  If someone doesn't like that line I'll be happy to refund their dues and help them move along.

I've had more than enough.  

I will abide by the rules as I know them. It just seems this is a new rule. The previous president was called much worse with no removal.