Our nation, on the brink of insanity

[art]

  That's a good one Serk. Born and raised in Chelsea,Ma. Got out of there in 65 and since have lived in Ca. ,AZ. an now Oregon. I lived in Ma. when The Patriots started. Never seen a game. I'll always have a soft spot for the Red Sox. My Dad and his brother used to sneak into Fenway park when they were kids and one of his cousins was the vice president or something like that of the Sox.I Got to see Ted Williams play there. That's about it for my sports interest. I rather be riding which I'm sorry to say I had to give up and sell my Valk.

[Jopson]

10 seconds of action followed by lots of standing around and high fives, followed by commercials!..

You've just accurately describe my love life.

At least you get a high five Serk!! 

[Hook#3287]

Damnation

I watch the game, but I am a NY Giants fan from when they played down the block in Yankee Stadium eons ago,  I'll admit I am watching to see Brady get knocked out.

Cant believe I am saying I hope the Falcons win   

Got my hebrew national specials (the fat franks) and crescent rolls to make pigs in blankets (yeah I know its a weird name and no pork)  and will watch with Bonnie tomorrow night.  Think she likes the Patriots having gone to UMass in Amhurst for college
but my money says she will be reading on her kindle during the game while I yell at the TV.

Hard to believe nobody else posted they will be watching the game

Finally we have a true American post ! I was beginning to think we were infiltrated by pinko commies (joke). I too hope the Falcons can pull it off. For two reasons. Always like the underdog (unless my Cowboys are in it). And two is I have a kind of roundabout bet with our friend Hook. Since the Cowboys were eliminated he can't lose, but I may have to figure a way to get him a case of that Portugese beer in a couple days.  

I'm pretty sure you can't FedEx beer.  There's a Portuguese community close by, so a check will do. 

Football.

It's a form of entertainment, just like all the others out there.

Humans have been watching sports for thousands of years.  Obviously, it's still very popular.

Not to mention the economic advantages and it's use as a vehicle to better many, many, lives.

I enjoy it and I'll be watching.

I'd like to say I feel bad for the Giants and the Cowboys, but, I don't

Never in any present day sports has there been a team like  Kraft/Belichick/Brady and I hope they continue for years.

[scooperhsd]

"Hard to believe nobody else posted they will be watching the game" by Oss.

It seems from the tone of this post that the ones not watching the game are intellectually superior to the ones watching. The less you care, the more superior you are.  

Further, because of this, us watchers are a little embarrassed to admit to watching.  

There's a football game today ?

No wonder there's nothing else good worth watching on the tube.... 

[Serk]

*Hanging head in shame*

After spending all day out at my land playing with the kids, getting some trigger therapy in, hanging out with family, I hadn't bothered to see what time the sportsball event was.

I thought I was safe coming home as the sun set. Turns out I wasn't.

And alas, I am now watching it. But I must admit, at the current score of 21-0 it's almost worth it just to see the beating.

I bet there will be one hell of a pep talk in the Patriot's locker room while "Lady Gaga" is lecturing us about how mean and deplorable we are while lit up by drones...

[Jess from VA]

Hope you watched the second half.   

Or at least the 4th quarter. 

[3fan4life]

Hope you watched the second half.   

Or at least the 4th quarter. 

I did,

It was a damn good game!

[baldo]

*Hanging head in shame*

After spending all day out at my land playing with the kids, getting some trigger therapy in, hanging out with family, I hadn't bothered to see what time the sportsball event was.

I thought I was safe coming home as the sun set. Turns out I wasn't.

And alas, I am now watching it. But I must admit, at the current score of 21-0 it's almost worth it just to see the beating.

I bet there will be one hell of a pep talk in the Patriot's locker room while "Lady Gaga" is lecturing us about how mean and deplorable we are while lit up by drones...

ahem.....

[Serk]

ahem.....

Yeah... Reliable sources tell me The Patriots stole the wrong playbook, realized their mistake and stole the right playbook during half time.


The bread and circus are quite entertaining at least...

[baldo]

[baldo]

This is fantastic!

https://www.facebook.com/NewEnglandPatriotsTrueFans/videos/850586101750603/

[G-Man]

From the beginning of the season to the end, it's always "The Big Game". Are there any regular or unimportant football games? Being 5' 3" at age 16 left me out of any sports. I was always into racing of all kinds. Still am. Raced a sports car, speedboat and a bicycle. Did well in the Tiger and loved every minute of it. Football??? Don't really get it.

There are only 16 regular season games.  Every game is important as it gets you closer to the big one.

[Bronxboy]

I was working a big job that had to be done after hours. But I also could give a Rat's Ass about these overpaid disrespecting Thugs.

[Fastman71]

Trigger therapy is good for what ails you.

While I didn't watch the game I did find this commercial

https://youtu.be/eEM-9n9m310

Enjoy!!!!

Fast Eddie

[Serk]

Question for those who pay attention to such things - After the game winning touchdown, did the Patriots bother to kick for the extra point?

[baldo]

Question for those who pay attention to such things - After the game winning touchdown, did the Patriots bother to kick for the extra point?

No, all they needed was one more point....

[Wizzard]

I am sitting in Hawaii for the next 2 weeks and watched it from here. Good game

[Serk]

Question for those who pay attention to such things - After the game winning touchdown, did the Patriots bother to kick for the extra point?

No, all they needed was one more point....

Yeah, just seems like it'd be depriving a kicker of a potential higher record or something. Was just curious, I knew they were kinda excited and all, didn't know if they'd be able to hold the ransacking horde back long enough to do it though...

[Moonshot_1]

I believe the rules concerning Overtime play in the NFL have changed recently.

It is no longer sudden death.

The flip determines initial possession.

First team to score Touchdown wins.

However,

Field Goal will score 3 points but opposing side gets ball on kickoff.

If opposing team scores touchdown they win.

If they score Field goal game continues.

Not sure on time limits or other rules.

[Jess from VA]

Yes, the newer NFL overtime rules are better than they were, but the collegiate overtime rules are much better, and fairer.  It's still sudden death in the NFL, except an initial field goal is too sudden.

I think the NFL is more concerned about multi-million dollar players getting injured in overtime, so they want it to end quicker.

As it is, in NFL overtime, the coin toss winner always takes the ball, and in college, the coin toss winner always defers.  

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.  Just like in baseball when a home run in the bottom of the ninth puts them ahead.  Even if they have two more outs left, the game is over.  I think they call those walk offs (because once ahead, they walk off).

[Serk]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

[Jess from VA]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool.  

Even in a normal 4 quarter game, if the go-ahead TD happened as time expired, there will be no PAT.   But if they need the point (or 2) to tie or win, then there would be a kick/try, even though time has expired.

Historically, in both college and pro, there have been some occasions of the crowd rushing the field as time runs out, but the game is not over.  This is a big problem, so whenever possible, the game is over as time expires:  unless a PAT is necessary to tie or win, or on a defensive penalty (which theoretically could be waived, but the O will always take another shot).

Also, in both college and pro, for many years a tie was an allowable result.  Ties are again possible in the pros, and again, that's about protecting million dollar babies.  The NFL will never allow multiple overtime games.

[Hook#3287]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

Overnight me that ribeye and we'll be even.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

Overnight me that ribeye and we'll be even.

[Serk]

Okay, I think Sherman was a war criminal and should be remembered as such, but this was another funny one (Except it won't be funny to Willow. I'll try to find some wordplay memes for him )

[The emperor has no clothes]

Okay, I think Sherman was a war criminal and should be remembered as such, but this was another funny one (Except it won't be funny to Willow. I'll try to find some wordplay memes for him )

I too think Sherman was brutal beyond what was needed. But is it even possible to be considered a war criminal if there were no war rules or laws to be broken ? At least I don't think they had them back then. (You are right, he won't find it funny)

[Serk]

I too think Sherman was brutal beyond what was needed. But is it even possible to be considered a war criminal if there were no war rules or laws to be broken ? At least I don't think they had them back then. (You are right, he won't find it funny)

My disclaimer was as deep into debating the ethics and morality of the War of Yankee Aggression as I'm willing to get in a sportsball thread.

Come up to Billings and I'll happily have a full and deep discussion of the topic over adult beverages.

(I know, I know... life gets in the way of living all too often...)

[The emperor has no clothes]

I too think Sherman was brutal beyond what was needed. But is it even possible to be considered a war criminal if there were no war rules or laws to be broken ? At least I don't think they had them back then. (You are right, he won't find it funny)

My disclaimer was as deep into debating the ethics and morality of the War of Yankee Aggression as I'm willing to get in a sportsball thread.

Come up to Billings and I'll happily have a full and deep discussion of the topic over adult beverages.

(I know, I know... life gets in the way of living all too often...)

[G-Man]

I think the NFL is more concerned about multi-million dollar players getting injured in overtime, so they want it to end quicker. 

Probably a union thing as well.  The have to pay a lot of people a lot of overtime.  That was one of the reasons Guns n Roses broke up.  Axel was never on time and sometime the band took a loss on the show after paying everyone overtime.  And at ball games you have police overtime as well.

[Moonshot_1]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

So this leads to the question about Overtime in an abnormal 5 quarter game.

So the last play of the game the pass is brought down by a laser armed drone hovering behind the line of scrimmage. The ball is not destroyed and the deflated ball is caught by a receiver who  is then hit by her own laser armed drone. She loses the deflated ball and it is picked up by a horse mounted linebacker who rides it in for the score and ties the game. So in the overtime, who buys the beer?

[The emperor has no clothes]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

So this leads to the question about Overtime in an abnormal 5 quarter game.

So the last play of the game the pass is brought down by a laser armed drone hovering behind the line of scrimmage. The ball is not destroyed and the deflated ball is caught by a receiver who  is then hit by her own laser armed drone. She loses the deflated ball and it is picked up by a horse mounted linebacker who rides it in for the score and ties the game. So in the overtime, who buys the beer?

Hook of course. 

[Hook#3287]

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.

Gotcha, that makes sense. In my limited understanding of the game I always considered the extra point kick to be an extension of the play that resulted in the touchdown, not in a separate play in and of itself.

It is in a normal 4 quarter game. O.T. is different. On a side note, the lack of a PAT won me  $20 ribeye and lost me a $100 pool. 

So this leads to the question about Overtime in an abnormal 5 quarter game.

So the last play of the game the pass is brought down by a laser armed drone hovering behind the line of scrimmage. The ball is not destroyed and the deflated ball is caught by a receiver who  is then hit by her own laser armed drone. She loses the deflated ball and it is picked up by a horse mounted linebacker who rides it in for the score and ties the game. So in the overtime, who buys the beer?

Hook of course. 

That depends on what the receiver looks like.

[MP]

Yes, the newer NFL overtime rules are better than they were, but the collegiate overtime rules are much better, and fairer.  It's still sudden death in the NFL, except an initial field goal is too sudden.

I think the NFL is more concerned about multi-million dollar players getting injured in overtime, so they want it to end quicker.

As it is, in NFL overtime, the coin toss winner always takes the ball, and in college, the coin toss winner always defers.  

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.  Just like in baseball when a home run in the bottom of the ninth puts them ahead.  Even if they have two more outs left, the game is over.  I think they call those walk offs (because once ahead, they walk off).

Baseball used to be different. Say a team was behind one run, batting bottom of ninth, bases loaded. Batter hits home run. Used to be, as soon as the second run crossed the plate, the game ended. And, thus, the batter did NOT get credit for a home run! Babe Ruth lost several home runs this way I heard.

[Jess from VA]

That, I didn't know. 

[holly]

 I personally think football is the greatest ever invented. I love watching high school and collage games, and I will admit to watching the Cowboys some this season. That being said, I have pretty much stopped watching any professional football or basketball, and baseball just moves too slow for me. There are too many players, coaches, ect. with outside agendas for me to deal with it any longer. These players are getting paid millions to play a game and can not seem to be content with just playing and collecting their check. I get more than enough of politics as is, I do not need some overpaid quarterback out in San Fran showing disrespect for my Country and Flag. For eight years I had to put up with all kind of things that made my blood boil, but it never even entered my mind not to stand for our National Anthem.

[Moonshot_1]

Yes, the newer NFL overtime rules are better than they were, but the collegiate overtime rules are much better, and fairer.  It's still sudden death in the NFL, except an initial field goal is too sudden.

I think the NFL is more concerned about multi-million dollar players getting injured in overtime, so they want it to end quicker.

As it is, in NFL overtime, the coin toss winner always takes the ball, and in college, the coin toss winner always defers.  

The game was over (according to overtime rule) upon the touchdown.  Just like in baseball when a home run in the bottom of the ninth puts them ahead.  Even if they have two more outs left, the game is over.  I think they call those walk offs (because once ahead, they walk off).

Baseball used to be different. Say a team was behind one run, batting bottom of ninth, bases loaded. Batter hits home run. Used to be, as soon as the second run crossed the plate, the game ended. And, thus, the batter did NOT get credit for a home run! Babe Ruth lost several home runs this way I heard.

Do not believe that is correct. A fair ball that exits the field of play between the foul poles in the air is a dead ball as soon as it is in dead ball territory. (Over the home run fence). At that moment, bases are awarded accordingly. So the home run is always scored as is any preceding runs. This means a game tied at the bottom of the 9th as 3 -3 with bases loaded and a home run then hit, the resulting final score would be 3 - 7  provided that the batter would have to legally touch all the bases and the plate for any preceding runs to score because if the batter abandons the base path and doesn't touch the plate, he is out. And since this is a dead ball base award none of the other runs may score unless forced. If the batter does not complete the time at bat, no runners can advance on the dead ball.

As a practical matter, this presents itself as an appeal. And as a practical matter this is usually not appealed except in tournament type play but is scored appropriately otherwise.

[Jess from VA]

I think MP was referring back to a long time ago, like maybe the 1800s.