Dumped the pumps going auto, 1100 anyone ?

[DirtyDan]

Hey all

 I just sold my 2 mossberg 12 ga pumps. Great name in guns yeah except both jammed on me one on the 7th shell. Me personally I'm not crazy about pump action in general. So I'm thinking a Remington 1100 semi auto as the "big one". Wondered if any of you have experience with one ?

Dan

[FLAVALK]

I own a couple of pumps (Remington and Winchester) and have owned autos. I just prefer a pump...maybe it's that bad-ass racking sound they make 

Purely personal preference

[Hooter]

I have mostly pump guns with the exception of one. My deer gun is an 1100 special with a Paradox barrel.  You can drive tacks with it and never a jamming problem. Any automatic anything will jam if you sissy it, especially a handgun.

To each his own but i'm not a big Ithaca fan for my own reasons.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I also prefer pump guns for self-defense. And I personally prefer the 500 over the 870. But, if I was going to buy a new semi-auto shotgun it would probably be one of these. We had one of it's predecessors in the shop for a cerakote job and I thought the design was very good. Looks like it's even better now.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/8/29/remington-v3-shotgun-review/

We've had several 1100s in the shop for repairs. Don't get me wrong, they are a good gun, but, the return spring assembly in the butt stock tends to get neglected until rust and crude make the gun inoperable. A good cleaning, a new spring and a new "O" ring for the gas system usually makes them ready to go again.

[Alpha Dog]

That 1100 was the first real gun I ever shot.  My Father must have bought one of the earliest models in the early sixty's, 63 or 64 anyway.   When I was old enough to hunt ( law was 12 and 14 years old back then in Michigan ) my Father bought a pump and let me use the 1100.  Brought down a lot of ducks out on the flood lands of the Saginaw Bay.  When my Father passed in 86 my Mother gave that gun to my Brother in Law.  I was pissed but did not show it, and never understood why, especially since they divorced 5 years later.   That gun never jammed once and I put more than a few rounds through it.

[Serk]

I've got 2 semi auto 12 gauges, an 1100 skeet gun and, depending on what you're looking for an out of left field option (That thanks to the last president's executive actions has gotten a little more expensive, but still out there) a Saiga 12.
It's too unwieldy for a skeet gun and really wouldn't use one for hunting, but just for plain old fun, it's hard to beat an AK47 chambered in 12 gauge...

[Patrick]

I have both the Mossberg 500 and Remington 1100.
The Mossberg isn't much of a gun, but, I bought it new for $85 with a slug and poly choke barrel. I used it for years as a beater of a hunting gun.
I have 4 1100's for both target and hunting, been using them for decades. A couple of the target ones have 100's of thousands of rounds through them. One of the greatest guns ever made. Just keep the magazine tube clean and dry and it'll never fail. Very simple to take care of.

[Jess from VA]

Here's my new Mossberg 930 SPX (pistol grip).  It comes with a very nice top rail and iron adjustable ghost ring rear and bright fiber optic front.  They are supposed to be more reliable in the use of  various ammunition (high brass/low brass) than past autos.  I like a full stock with pistol grip because it takes some of the recoil off your shoulder, and makes handling with one hand easier.  Gas operated autos have noticeably less recoil than other shotgun actions

http://www.mossberg.com/product/930-tactical-8-shot-spx-pistol-grip-85370/


If recoil could be a problem for you in a 12, this Mossy 930 pistol grip comes in a 20 gauge version (but only a 5 shot).  When compared to a 12 gauge, the 20 gauge delivers 75% of the lead with a recoil that is 40-50% less.  This is equivalent to the ballistic force of being hit with two .44 Magnum rounds simultaneously.  Reduced recoil of the 20 gauge is conducive to accurate, rapid shots. From some article.  Decently cheaper than the 12 too.

http://www.mossberg.com/product/mossberg-international-sa-20-railed-pistol-grip-75780/

Reviews:
http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/mossberg-930-spx-shotgun/
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/10/bryan-hyde/gun-review-mossberg-930-spx-tactical-shotgun/
http://www.besttacticalshotgun.com/mossberg-930-spx-tactical-shotgun-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20DECxN8bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5--twrZ8p8

I am normally not into camo or colored guns, but this Kryptek Typhon version of the 930 SPX is pretty neat looking. (costs more)

[Willow]

 

Serk, I'm an absolute amateur at shotgunning but if I were firing a rifle I would not be gripping tightly with the non-trigger hand.  Is that tight grip proper for shotguns?

[Serk]

Serk, I'm an absolute amateur at shotgunning but if I were firing a rifle I would not be gripping tightly with the non-trigger hand.  Is that tight grip proper for shotguns?

Hmmm, good question, it looks "right" to me, but I also am not a formally trained shooter in any sense of the word. I tend to do what's comfortable for me and gives me the best accuracy, now I'll have to consciously stop and think how I'm holding my off hand next time I go shooting to see...

As far as the specifics of this image, I know nothing about the specifics of this shooter, I just googled up an image of the gun I was referring to and that was one of the first hits that wasn't too big and the firearm could be clearly seen.

[Jess from VA]

A solid grip on the fore end of any hard kicking shotgun (especially one with a straight stock, not pistol gripped) helps save your shoulder from hard abuse.  Kim Rhodes and others excepted, most women do not enjoy shooting a 12 ga shotguns, and recoil is the reason.  

Yes shotguns must be aimed, and spread patterns don't widen out much at self defense ranges, but they are not really precision instruments like rifles.  There are shotgun (3-gun) competitions, but you don't see them being bench rested for 100 yard groups with slugs.  Though I suppose deer hunters who must use shotguns in their regions may do this very thing (maybe with some type of optic) in preparation for deer season.  

If I was deer hunting with a rifled barrel shotgun and sabot slug, I would be as exacting as necessary in squeezing that (one) shot off, to take my deer.  And suffer any increase in shoulder recoil.  But I  am not a shotgun hunter, or even a trap and skeet guy.  My shotguns (all with 18.5" bbls) are for human predators at fairly close range, and I grab them solidly fore and aft.  As with other defensive firearms, controlling muzzle flip and recoil lets you back on (the next) target quicker.

[Alien]

My wife has a pump action 12 gauge.  I can't shoot worth a damn so I have a full auto Louisville slugger, three dogs and my stellar personality.

Ride Safe,

Alien

[Rams]

I was thoroughly relieved to open this thread and discover it was about shot guns.   Whew!!!

I was concerned Dirty Dan was talking about shoes, my wife has several pair of "pumps".   

In today's "trans" society, one never knows ya know.   

[Dave Ritsema]

How about both pump and auto?

Love my SPAS 12. Probably the most intimidating looking weapon I own. And I had mine before Arnold made them popular as the Terminator.  This is a google photo, mine has a laser and tactical light. Great house gun!

[Whooray]

" I just prefer a pump...maybe it's that bad-ass racking sound they make  "
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[Jess from VA]

There is a big gun range in Las Vegas (Battlefield Vegas) that puts more rounds through all manner of firearms (regular and class 3) than even the usual military tests or anybody else.  Hundreds of thousands of rounds.  The manager has taken to posting his findings on ARFCOM (AR15.com) threads. He is not so much a gun expert, he just tells you what breaks and what doesn't.  Here is the thread on shotguns.  (I also can link ARs, optics and other threads if you are interested)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_1/474035_High-round-count-shotguns-to-include-Mossberg--Remington--Benelli-and-Chinese-clones.html

http://www.battlefieldvegas.com/

[gregk]

Oh no not an auto!  I bought a Ithaca 37 feather weight back around 76 an that gun is so sweet they'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands before I give it up. However, you could tempt me with one of them twin tube 15 shot suckers.

[Gavin_Sons]

Those pu, ps jammed because ther were, well, Mossbergs.    I have 5 870's a 20 gauge and 4 12 gauges. 2 express, and 3 wingmasters. Never have jammed, ever. My oldest about 20 years old looks like hell but is the most reliable gun I own. The blueing is mostly worn off and has gouges and scratcjes in the stock but will still kill like a 2,000 dollar shotgun. I also have an 1187 that works well.

[cookiedough]

shot 100s of rounds thru my mossberg 500 pump built in the 1980s no issues ever jamming, etc.

I say go for it though if the remington 1100 is priced reasonably, should be fine, if into semi-autos.

[DirtyDan]

I was thoroughly relieved to open this thread and discover it was about shot guns.   Whew!!!

I was concerned Dirty Dan was talking about shoes, my wife has several pair of "pumps".   

In today's "trans" society, one never knows ya know.   

Why rams........