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Raider
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« on: February 23, 2017, 05:07:51 PM »

I went to DC for work and decided to ride from NC for the trip. First, wife got me a sheepskin seat cover (searched on here to find the best one). How in the world did I ever ride without one?!?

Twice while riding up and once on the way back, the engine "missed" and then immediately returned to normal. It was like I flicked the ignition switch off and on really quickly. Any ideas what might cause this?

In case it's relevant, it's a 99 IS with 45k miles.
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Bighead
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 05:20:41 PM »

Do you have a thumb throttle lock? I have had that happen when pushing the lock on it will sometimes hit the kill switch just enough to interrupt the spark and cause exactly what you describe.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 05:26:42 PM »

I have had it happen twice. Some call it a burp.  Both ti, es while just cruising for miles at 60 mph.
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Raider
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 05:28:43 PM »

I have a throttle lock, but notherwise the type that crosses near the ignition switch. I made no movements, just cruising down the road.

I know what you mean though, I've bumped the switch before and it was very similar.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 05:35:55 PM »

I've had it happen on my Standard but never on my I/S. Never did figure out what caused it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 06:29:57 PM »

Yup! Glitch. Gremlin. Ghost. Goof Up. Once Maybe twice in the 6 and a half years I've had her. Gits yer tenshun raises yer blood pressure some BUT she has ALWAYS kept runnin!. Twist her tail Really HARD and make er scream-You WILL feel better and fer ya knowz it-WHAT Miss?  2funny RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 06:40:46 PM »

That definitely raises the pucker factor, especially far from home......I'd be giving it some serious side eye the rest of the way.....
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Raider
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 06:43:23 PM »

Yup! Glitch. Gremlin. Ghost. Goof Up. Once Maybe twice in the 6 and a half years I've had her. Gits yer tenshun raises yer blood pressure some BUT she has ALWAYS kept runnin!. Twist her tail Really HARD and make er scream-You WILL feel better and fer ya knowz it-WHAT Miss?  2funny RIDE SAFE.

I'm one of those guys who used to ride sportbikes.  I love to crank her up a bit! 
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Raider
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 06:44:14 PM »

That definitely raises the pucker factor, especially far from home......I'd be giving it some serious side eye the rest of the way.....

I was the same way, Baldo.  Hyper sensitive the whole ride. 
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Pete
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 06:58:36 PM »

Well it is either fuel or electric.
Where was the fuel gauge each time?
Did all 6 cylinders stop or just 1 or 2?

As you are riding along, touch the kill switch and the key switch, move them around without turning them off to see if movement is an issue.

Did you hit a bump each time it failed?
Were you in a curve or uphill or downhill?

What if anything was common about the 2 failures?

Keep looking.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 07:15:30 PM »

Do you have a lot of keys on the key ring that's inserted in the ignition. Keys flying around in the wind have been known to cause a "burp" such as you describe, the key turns ever so slightly in the "off" direction and back again. But, sometimes will move just enough to get your attention with a short miss.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 12:21:08 AM »

That symptom (the completely unexpected quarter second power off glitch) has been described here before several times.  Never been clearly diagnosed, but thought to be ignition or ICU ECU related.  But no one has ever said it became real chronic or worse.  I've never had it (thumping wooden head).

I virtually never use my kill switch, and think maybe I should on occasion to make sure it's not getting corroded or something.

If you're ever up here with time for a ride (short or long), give me a little heads up and we can go for a spin.  (But I won't go into DC, I'm allergic)  (a mile north of Ft Belvoir off Route 1)
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 04:20:13 AM »

Aw yes, the burp.  Happened to me once , about 15 years ago and never again.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 05:52:20 AM »

This phenomenon has happened to many over the years.  I'm on my third valk all of them tourers and this has occurred maybe once twice a year on all of them.  On one occasion with the first bike it missed a few times in one day then not again for many months.  I think it is a static charge that builds up in the pickups or ecu.  As others have said. Ride on and don't worry
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 11:09:55 AM »

It's happened to me maybe 4 times in the past 115,000 miles. Sun spot activity? Fluctuation in the earth's magnetic field? A "glitch" escaping from the tank through the fuel lines?

Got me.  Smiley

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DirtyDan
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 03:15:29 PM »

Tighten your battery might be worth a try

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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2017, 10:15:51 PM »

Comes up in discussion about once a year.

A Gremlin.

Just keep riding. If it continues to happen, then worry.

My 99' IS did it twice when I had it back in 2010.

My current Green IS from last year, it never happened yet.
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Raider
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 05:55:10 AM »

Well it is either fuel or electric.
Where was the fuel gauge each time?
Did all 6 cylinders stop or just 1 or 2?

As you are riding along, touch the kill switch and the key switch, move them around without turning them off to see if movement is an issue.

Did you hit a bump each time it failed?
Were you in a curve or uphill or downhill?

What if anything was common about the 2 failures?

Keep looking.

Pete, the commonality of all three instances was that nothing out of the ordinary was going on.  Cruising between 70-80, no bumbs, level ground, just cruising.  Fuel was about half the first time and 3/4 the other.  It was such a quick "burp" that I couldn't tell if just one or all 6 stopped.
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Raider
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 05:58:23 AM »

Do you have a lot of keys on the key ring that's inserted in the ignition. Keys flying around in the wind have been known to cause a "burp" such as you describe, the key turns ever so slightly in the "off" direction and back again. But, sometimes will move just enough to get your attention with a short miss.

Two keys, John.  One in the ignition and one hanging on a small ring.  It would blow my mind if that single key is causing it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 06:00:40 AM »

Thanks to all who assure me that it's just some strange glitch and nothing to worry about.  I will continue to ride in bliss!   cooldude

Jess from VA, I'll give you a shout sometime.  I go up there about once a month.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2017, 06:06:08 AM »

Thanks to all who assure me that it's just some strange glitch and nothing to worry about.  I will continue to ride in bliss!   cooldude

Jess from VA, I'll give you a shout sometime.  I go up there about once a month.

Any time. 
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