GPS Bluetooth pairing question

[wiggydotcom]

I have a Garmin Nuvi 2595LMT that I've had a couple years but I have a question  on how it's suppose to behave when paired with my phone or Sena 20s.

I don't have any problem getting the Garmin to pair with my phone or Sena 20s but the navigation prompts are still coming through the Garmin Speaker, not through my phone or Sena speakers. I've even tried plugging my corded earbuds into my phone(Galaxy Note 4).
I'm pretty sure the part works where my Garmin can take and make calls because of the phone pairing but that's not what I'm after.  I want the part where I hear the turn by turn directions through my Sena--and if it passes through my phone first and then the Sena, that's fine.

Can anyone enlighten me on what I need to do or am I expecting too much. Thanks in advance for any help/advice. It still doesn't work even if I leave the Sena out of it and just pair my Note 4 to the Garmn.

[F6Dave]

As I recall, an automotive GPS is generally designed to pair with a phone for hands free calling.  I don't think they are designed to pair with a motorcycle headset.

[wiggydotcom]

As I recall, an automotive GPS is generally designed to pair with a phone for hands free calling.  I don't think they are designed to pair with a motorcycle headset.

Thanks for your response, Dave. You could be right about it being designed to do this but it does pair up with the headset. It just doesn't seem to direct the nav voice prompts to it. The Sena 20s has the ability to pair with 2 devices at once...I guess that's a result of Bluetooth 4.1 version?

Even paired with just my phone, the navigation voice prompts still go through the Nuvi speaker...

[CajunRider]

I'm thinking that F6Dave is correct...

No need to use phone/car speakers, so the "ever-so-smart" designers decided to not send voice prompts over bluetooth.    

Just to be SURE... check the volume settings of the GPS device (outside of bluetooth settings).  There MAY be a check box or something for bluetooth volume.  Unlikely... but MAYBE a programmer thought it would be useful enough to add that option in. 

[MarkT]

I have a Zumo 665 with bluetooth and I don't think there's an audio link output via bluetooth from Garmin -> phone.  I have a bluetooth crossover with audio hardwire for garmin output to it - the iphone will link to the Garmin for phone calls only but iphone audio incl pandora or mp3's if I played them on the phone bluetooth to the crossover, and garmin output - sirius radio, mp3 player, and nav prompts all go thru the crossover via the mini-stereo wire, the amp, then out the speakers.

[F-six]

I have a Zumo 590, an iphone and Sena 5. The setup is that the phone connects to the gps and the gps connects to the headset. The navigation prompts go to the headset but bitching betty will shut up when I'm taking a call.
I think too that your gps is not capable of working with a headset. There is an easy test though. Forget about the phone for a moment, delete this connection entirely. Then try to connect the gps with the headset. See what it does. If you can't get the navigation prompts in the headset, forget about it. If it does, then try to connect your phone to the gps.

[wiggydotcom]

Thanks for all your responses. I'll check this out tonight.  I don't have a volume specifically for Bluetooth but my regular volume is turned up quite a bit. When I have a bluetooth connection between the Garmin and phone(Note4), I hear the voice prompts just fine---but still through the Garmin speaker.

I'll report back my findings of trying again without the phone involved. The one thing I think I ran into when I tried that is it gave me a passkey on the Garmin and I hit enter but there was no way that I saw to do the same with the Sena 20s. On the Garmin, it showed the Sena as a recognized device and I saved it but I don't know that it necessarily hooked up with it.(In my previous posts, I did say it paired up with the Sena but now I'm not so sure). I was just going off a Youtube video but might have to read the directions. But geez, men just don't do that often!  Thanks again.

Russ

[shortleg]

  None of the Nuvi,s will work with you Sena 20s.
You will have to get a Zumo for the option to get to you headset.

[MarkT]

I have a Zumo 590, an iphone and Sena 5. The setup is that the phone connects to the gps and the gps connects to the headset. The navigation prompts go to the headset but bitching betty will shut up when I'm taking a call.
I think too that your gps is not capable of working with a headset. There is an easy test though. Forget about the phone for a moment, delete this connection entirely. Then try to connect the gps with the headset. See what it does. If you can't get the navigation prompts in the headset, forget about it. If it does, then try to connect your phone to the gps.

Yep I did some digging when looking into wanting to get audio into a Zumo from an Iphone via bluetooth - found the new 595 is set up different from the others, in that it does support audio both ways to a phone via bluetooth whereas the 6XX series doesn't in spite of it's high price and other features including doppler radar and traffic via the sirius receiver, bluetooth support for phone calls and mp3 and audio books player.  I note they dropped the on-board players and the Sirius/XM support so no weather radar or traffic. Very spendy at msrp $899. Read their specs here https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/536397

[F-six]

The Zumo 59x works with an app on your phone, Smartlink, and you will get weather, traffic warnings and speedcontrols on the screen of the gps.

[wiggydotcom]

Hmmm, one of my responses must be lost in cyberspace. At any rate, thanks shortleg, F-Six and Mark for the additional responses. It does sound like my GPS might not have the firepower(either too old of a model or not enough whistles and bells.

I might have to save up more coin for a Zumo with sound output via Bluetooth.

[MarkT]

The Zumo 59x works with an app on your phone, Smartlink, and you will get weather, traffic warnings and speedcontrols on the screen of the gps.

what they quit supporting for the 59x was satellite radio which is where the radar and traffic comes from on the 665. Also no mp3 player, or audio books.

[F-six]

The Zumo 59x works with an app on your phone, Smartlink, and you will get weather, traffic warnings and speedcontrols on the screen of the gps.

what they quit supporting for the 59x was satellite radio which is where the radar and traffic comes from on the 665. Also no mp3 player, or audio books.

No, the 59x has a mediaplayer and some other additional apps. You can play your mp3's and audiobooks. I wonder, have you ever used a Zumo 59x? It's by far the best gps I have ever owned. The Adventurous Routing option works really great, it finds curvy or hilly roads and limits major highways.

[F-six]

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but wow, why are the Zumo's so expensive in the USA?
USA: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cOnTheRoad-cMotorcycles-p1.html

The Netherlands: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cOnTheRoad-cMotorcycles-p1.html

And keep in mind that our prices contain a 21% tax! So you pay 900 dollars and we pay 700 euro's voor the 595LM. The 700 euro's at the going rate is 743 dollars. And our price before tax is around 560 euro, is almost 600 dollars. Which is, by the way, good to know for an American visiting Europe, because you can shop taxfree.

Don't know what the streetprice is in the USA, but here it is some 50 euro's lower at 650 euro including 21% tax.

[Oss]

All this talk of gps and bluetooth  wow

Fred Flintstone has nothing on my gps system



write where ya wanna go and how on paper, turn over the paper when ya get to the end  u aint terribly lost if u still have gas bars on the display   If I wanna hear a woman telling me where to go I take my wife along anyway

Still the urge to get a gps is there, just I have successfully fought it up to now  Good luck wiggy, I understand why you need more doodads on your f6b

[MarkT]

The Zumo 59x works with an app on your phone, Smartlink, and you will get weather, traffic warnings and speedcontrols on the screen of the gps.

what they quit supporting for the 59x was satellite radio which is where the radar and traffic comes from on the 665. Also no mp3 player, or audio books.

No, the 59x has a mediaplayer and some other additional apps. You can play your mp3's and audiobooks. I wonder, have you ever used a Zumo 59x? It's by far the best gps I have ever owned. The Adventurous Routing option works really great, it finds curvy or hilly roads and limits major highways.

I was speaking from Garmin's description on the web page - don't have one.  They don't mention the player so figured it's gone - they replaced it with the bluetooth - phone player.  They don't mention a satellite radio receiver either so that's gone - which was how you got the weather radar and traffic from XM. (However I also have a iphone mount with USB charger so I can receive aps like weather radar and waze from the phone.  However not waterproof and depends on cellphone connection - which is spotty at best in the mountains. ) The satellite always works. So how many mp3's do they support now?  The 665 is limited at 2000 / card. The 550 was 1000 / card.

BTW the street price and even the real price from Garmin is not the MSRP # if you haggle a bit.  Garmin sold me the 665 for half the advertised MSRP when they EOL'd the Zumo 550 after the unit was fried by a solar storm so they wouldn't replace it due to being EOL'd and I have a "lifetime" subscription and I pointed that out.

[scooperhsd]

If all you have is a Nuvi - you're not going to get GPS on your headset. Setup with the correct gear (I have an Akron mount / weather proof case for my Nuvi 2597LMT) and a nuvi car charger in my handlebar bag  - (charger gets power from the battery tender connection) - the GPS navigates and does traffic fine, but I basically mute it. Can be difficult to see in bright sunshine in the wrong spot.

I'd love to get a Zumo, but it's hard to justify....

[wiggydotcom]

If all you have is a Nuvi - you're not going to get GPS on your headset. Setup with the correct gear (I have an Akron mount / weather proof case for my Nuvi 2597LMT) and a nuvi car charger in my handlebar bag  - (charger gets power from the battery tender connection) - the GPS navigates and does traffic fine, but I basically mute it. Can be difficult to see in bright sunshine in the wrong spot.

I'd love to get a Zumo, but it's hard to justify....

Thanks for the confirmation, scooperhsd. I'll probably just have to use the visual turn by turn. I haven't tested out the new Schuberth to see if the helmet is so quiet, I won't be able to hear the Nav speaker on the 2595. Will know by Monday.

[big poppa pump]

I've done this to my Garmin unit, I get all alerts and directions through my uClear BT headset.

http://www.m-p-c.com/GPS_Bluetooth_Audio.htm

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've done this to my Garmin unit, I get all alerts and directions through my uClear BT headset.

http://www.m-p-c.com/GPS_Bluetooth_Audio.htm

Did you do it yourself or send it to them ?

[big poppa pump]

I've done this to my Garmin unit, I get all alerts and directions through my uClear BT headset.

http://www.m-p-c.com/GPS_Bluetooth_Audio.htm

Did you do it yourself or send it to them ?

Myself. Electrical/Electroncis stuff never scares me!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've done this to my Garmin unit, I get all alerts and directions through my uClear BT headset.

http://www.m-p-c.com/GPS_Bluetooth_Audio.htm

Did you do it yourself or send it to them ?

Myself. Electrical/Electroncis stuff never scares me!

Did you use the capacitor that they suggested or a different one ? If different, how do you determine which to go with ? Thanks 

[big poppa pump]

I couldn't find the exact capacitor they mentioned in the article at Radioshack. I ended up getting a slightly higher voltage capacitor at 35V. As long as the capacitor's voltage is higher than the recommended one, you should be good.

https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-47uf-35v-20-radial-lead-electrolytic-capacitor

[The emperor has no clothes]

I couldn't find the exact capacitor they mentioned in the article at Radioshack. I ended up getting a slightly higher voltage capacitor at 35V. As long as the capacitor's voltage is higher than the recommended one, you should be good.

https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-47uf-35v-20-radial-lead-electrolytic-capacitor

Thanks 

[wiggydotcom]

I've done this to my Garmin unit, I get all alerts and directions through my uClear BT headset.

http://www.m-p-c.com/GPS_Bluetooth_Audio.htm

Big Poppa Pump,

Thanks SO much for sharing this idea! As an electrician who's been around a soldering iron quite a bit, this is very doable. Even before seeing your post, I had just today ordered a bluetooth transmitter/receiver and a 5 pin Din to 3.5mm stereo cable. Giving credit to Shortleg, he posted an idea in the F6b forum about running the bikes sound output from the hard wired cord and then using this setup, bluetoothing it to a helmet setup(in my case the Sena 20s).

Now I need to do some more research like reading the directions to see just how much I can have paired up with the Sena at once. I really only need my phone(Note 4), GPS(via your bluetooth transmitter) and bike Stereo/Aux output(through a 2nd bluetooth tranmitter) If It won't hook up to a 2nd transmitter, I'll just run my tunes direct from my phone to the Sena.

Either way, you've given me hope again. Btw, I did find the Zumo 660LM can be had for around 320ish and it does transmit to a wireless headset. So, at least I have some options.

Thanks again!

[wiggydotcom]

All this talk of gps and bluetooth  wow

Fred Flintstone has nothing on my gps system



write where ya wanna go and how on paper, turn over the paper when ya get to the end  u aint terribly lost if u still have gas bars on the display   If I wanna hear a woman telling me where to go I take my wife along anyway

Still the urge to get a gps is there, just I have successfully fought it up to now  Good luck wiggy, I understand why you need more doodads on your f6b

OSS, your post made me laugh. Nothing wrong with the old fashioned way. It reminded me of the supposed "problem" that NASA once had to solve about getting a pen to work in space and zero gravity.
It seemed like they pumped millions into their research. The Russians meanwhile solved the problem by using a pencil!  I'm sure hoping that wasn't a true story, but it did show sometimes it's a matter of not overthinking a solution. I'm going to miss you this Inzane, buddy!

[big poppa pump]

Now I need to do some more research like reading the directions to see just how much I can have paired up with the Sena at once. I really only need my phone(Note 4), GPS(via your bluetooth transmitter) and bike Stereo/Aux output(through a 2nd bluetooth tranmitter) If It won't hook up to a 2nd transmitter, I'll just run my tunes direct from my phone to the Sena.

You can have 2 devices paired to the Sena unit at the same time, your phone and/or your GPS unit/Aux output. Connect the 2nd BT TX/RX unit to your phone.

[wiggydotcom]

Now I need to do some more research like reading the directions to see just how much I can have paired up with the Sena at once. I really only need my phone(Note 4), GPS(via your bluetooth transmitter) and bike Stereo/Aux output(through a 2nd bluetooth tranmitter) If It won't hook up to a 2nd transmitter, I'll just run my tunes direct from my phone to the Sena.

You can have 2 devices paired to the Sena unit at the same time, your phone and/or your GPS unit/Aux output. Connect the 2nd BT TX/RX unit to your phone.

Very cool...thanks for your help!