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« on: March 14, 2017, 01:52:02 PM »

Hey all... I made up a tire changer last year and used it to install two new tires on my I/S.
They are the only rims I have done so far.

A brief description:

1- An overall look at the unit with  a 13 X 4 1/2" Trailer rim mounted with the back side facing up.



2- A close-up look into the rim hole....I cut off the upper pipe section about 1" above the 7" round disk that a car rim would rest on. I then wrapped the bottom third of a 3/4" threaded rod coupling with tape 'till it was a very snug fit in the top of the pipe above the 7" disk...  secured it with  #8 self tapping screws leaving about 1 1/2" of coupling exposed.



3- I placed a 3" ABS plumbing pipe coupling on the disk and traced it and drilled small holes to run self tapping screws up from under the disk to locate the coupling and did the same with the trailer rim. and then sandwitched the ABS coupling between the disk and rim and bolted it all together.



4- I then split open some rubber laundry hose and slipped it over the edge of the rim and siliconed it in place top and bottom.
A 3/4" threaded rod is then spun into the coupling inside the rim and a big hard rubber doughnut from a marine shop, and a fender washer are slipped down over the rod and another rod coupling is threaded down over top.
So all you do is unthread the rod from the bottom, place the bike wheel on the trailer rim...and the rest is obvious.
The really good thing about this setup...the bike rim does NOT spin on the changer as you are mounting or unmounting a tire.









BTW...I did buy the bike tire adapter but found that it was difficult to use properly as the bike rim would spin on the machine...a half hour of that was enough for me...I returned the adapter.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 04:04:20 PM »

That's nice work, 7th_son. I have the HF tire change setup also but need to redo the lead inserts in my garage floor. I used inserts so when my unit isn't mounted, I can put button head screws into the insert and not have them fill up with crud. But being lead, as I put side torque on the changer, it eventually wallowed them out.

So, if I may ask, what type of mount do you use to keep the base section anchored? I know some just mount it to a 4x4 sheet of plywood or similar. Just curious to see all the ideas.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2017, 04:29:03 PM »

That's nice work, 7th_son. I have the HF tire change setup also but need to redo the lead inserts in my garage floor. I used inserts so when my unit isn't mounted, I can put button head screws into the insert and not have them fill up with crud. But being lead, as I put side torque on the changer, it eventually wallowed them out.

So, if I may ask, what type of mount do you use to keep the base section anchored? I know some just mount it to a 4x4 sheet of plywood or similar. Just curious to see all the ideas.


These are what you are looking for...not in this quantity I guess but you should be able to get 4 at a local building outlet. The lead anchors are somewhat light duty compared to these Simpson ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Strong-DIA37-Strong-Tie-Carbon/dp/B00H7KZ100/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1489533986&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=Recessed+Drop-in+Anchors
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2017, 05:07:41 PM »

That's nice work, 7th_son. I have the HF tire change setup also but need to redo the lead inserts in my garage floor. I used inserts so when my unit isn't mounted, I can put button head screws into the insert and not have them fill up with crud. But being lead, as I put side torque on the changer, it eventually wallowed them out.

So, if I may ask, what type of mount do you use to keep the base section anchored? I know some just mount it to a 4x4 sheet of plywood or similar. Just curious to see all the ideas.


These are what you are looking for...not in this quantity I guess but you should be able to get 4 at a local building outlet. The lead anchors are somewhat light duty compared to these Simpson ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Strong-DIA37-Strong-Tie-Carbon/dp/B00H7KZ100/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1489533986&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=Recessed+Drop-in+Anchors

Thanks for the link. If I don't find something like that at the local Home Depot/Menards, I can order from a local Fastenal.  Btw...on the anchors you posted, it appears they are set with a punch type setting tool, correct?
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2017, 05:57:03 PM »

No punch req'd...You can just tap the anchor into the hole.  Just screwing in a bolt expands the bottom of the anchor as it is a tapered thread.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 07:55:49 PM »

I have a Coats 220 motorcycle tire changer that works well. I dug a hole just outside of the walk door to the back of my garage. Made a template and placed 8" foundation bolts into concrete with just enough thread sticking up to get a nut on. I did this so that I could move the machine if I needed to and not have anchors sticking above the ground. I have not moved it since bolting it down but can if need be. I had previously built one similar to the one 7th son built. It worked well but the Coats is better. I gave the one that I had built to Deadpan Dick. Seems to work fine for him. I have changed countless tires over the years. I think I mounted and dismounted half a dozen tires last Saturday. I would hate to be without a tire machine.  cooldude
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2017, 08:50:01 PM »

No punch req'd...You can just tap the anchor into the hole.  Just screwing in a bolt expands the bottom of the anchor as it is a tapered thread.

ok, thanks for clearing that up for me.


I have a Coats 220 motorcycle tire changer that works well. I dug a hole just outside of the walk door to the back of my garage. Made a template and placed 8" foundation bolts into concrete with just enough thread sticking up to get a nut on. I did this so that I could move the machine if I needed to and not have anchors sticking above the ground. I have not moved it since bolting it down but can if need be. I had previously built one similar to the one 7th son built. It worked well but the Coats is better. I gave the one that I had built to Deadpan Dick. Seems to work fine for him. I have changed countless tires over the years. I think I mounted and dismounted half a dozen tires last Saturday. I would hate to be without a tire machine.  cooldude

How are the Dark Side tires to get on, Damon? I took my Bridgestone Driveguard Runflat to a local cycle shop and it even took a couple guys to work the bar and keep it down, even on their automatic changer. With the stiffer sidewalls of the RF, I'm not sure how the manual station would do, but after I redo the anchors, I'll find out at some point.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2017, 06:41:39 AM »

If they are real tough I use tire mounting paste instead of Ruglide. The paste is made for mounting those low profile tires that are real tough. I have mounted a lot of Austone Taxi Tires and they slide on real easy. The easiest tire I ever mounted was a Bridgstone Battle Axe bias ply tire. It helps a ton if the tire is warm.  cooldude
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2017, 07:44:52 AM »

If they are real tough I use tire mounting paste instead of Ruglide. The paste is made for mounting those low profile tires that are real tough. I have mounted a lot of Austone Taxi Tires and they slide on real easy. The easiest tire I ever mounted was a Bridgstone Battle Axe bias ply tire. It helps a ton if the tire is warm.  cooldude

Ok, thanks for the added detail. I looked up your tire changer and all I've got to say about that is:

"If I had your money, I could light cigars with mine!"   cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2017, 07:16:13 PM »

If they are real tough I use tire mounting paste instead of Ruglide. The paste is made for mounting those low profile tires that are real tough. I have mounted a lot of Austone Taxi Tires and they slide on real easy. The easiest tire I ever mounted was a Bridgstone Battle Axe bias ply tire. It helps a ton if the tire is warm.  cooldude

Ok, thanks for the added detail. I looked up your tire changer and all I've got to say about that is:

"If I had your money, I could light cigars with mine!"   cooldude
Gotta find the good deals Russ. I'll bet I have less in my Coats than you do in your HF.  cooldude
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2017, 04:04:56 AM »

If they are real tough I use tire mounting paste instead of Ruglide. The paste is made for mounting those low profile tires that are real tough. I have mounted a lot of Austone Taxi Tires and they slide on real easy. The easiest tire I ever mounted was a Bridgstone Battle Axe bias ply tire. It helps a ton if the tire is warm.  cooldude

Ok, thanks for the added detail. I looked up your tire changer and all I've got to say about that is:

"If I had your money, I could light cigars with mine!"   cooldude
Gotta find the good deals Russ. I'll bet I have less in my Coats than you do in your HF.  cooldude

Wow...I don't mind paying what I paid for mine many years ago---I think it was just north of $100 for both pieces but if you got the Coats for anywhere around that, you got one heck of a deal...pennies on the dollar. Good work!
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