Anybody sides me

[old2soon]

heard about the removal of Confederate statues in New Orleans?

[Serk]

They're just following in the footsteps of their buddies in ISIS...



And their ideological allies in 1930's Germany...

[Skinhead]

They been threatening it ever since the SC flag came down.

[hubcapsc]

It's sad... not a real town anymore, just a tourist trap. They've
spoken loudly that they don't want my tourist dollars anymore,
but they won't miss them, I'm sure. Big events (Katrina in this
case) can bring big change. Hugo turned the sleepy town of
Charleston SC into a paved-over crowded metropolis. At least
Charleston is merely crowded, and not obnoxious.

-Mike

[dreamaker]

heard about the removal of Confederate statues in New Orleans?

For what reason, who does it bother?

[old2soon]

Just cuz ya Remove History don't mean ya can Change History. Is the Civil war still taught or at least alluded to in School? Just cuz someone Refuses to acknowledge History don't mean it didn't happen. Town I grew up in-Round Lake Illinois-took down the board that had ALL the names of those that had perished while fighting the Wars of Our Nation from the round Lake Il. area.   I've also heard it said that those that do not study History are Doomed to repeat it.     My neighbors Confederate Flag succumbed to he wind and the sun. I keep asking him to PLEASE install a new Confederate Flag. My American Flag and his Confederate Flag Never once fought each other-they both shared the same wind-kinda like we do as Riders! I'm thinkin you go back far enough you will find Patterson's that fought for the Blue or the Gray. RIDE SAFE..

[Cracker Jack]

That freedom of speech thing only applies if it's not Confederate/Southern related.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's sad... not a real town anymore, just a tourist trap. They've
spoken loudly that they don't want my tourist dollars anymore,
but they won't miss them, I'm sure. Big events (Katrina in this
case) can bring big change. Hugo turned the sleepy town of
Charleston SC into a paved-over crowded metropolis. At least
Charleston is merely crowded, and not obnoxious.

-Mike

I've never been to New Orleans or Charleston. Though I hope to some day. When I was a kid we had a big hurricane called Celia that hit Corpus Christi pretty hard. But I don't remember it changing much besides all the construction workers coming in for 6 months. I'm curious why the storm changed Charleston so much ?

[Robert]

They cannot change history but they can wipe out the memory of what really happened and In taking down the statues and not teaching history in school they are actually changing history since they teach the history they want and the young are doomed fall right in line with the history that they are taught and doomed to repeat some of what was warned not to do or repeat. This falls right in line with the one world government.

2 quotes by George Santayana

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.

[Jess from VA]

The Civil War was about many things, and slavery was only one of them.

Slavery was bad, but nearly every other issue involved in that war was good. (principally balance of power between State and Fed Gs, and defending your homeland and family/friends against invading armies).

Simpletons believe (and want everyone else to believe) the civil war was only about slavery, so would do everything they can to dishonor the South (Confederacy), it's leaders (military and civilian), and it's rich history (aside from slavery), and would tear down every single statue, monument, building, park, cemetery and flag dedicated to that rich history.... as payback (for their remote ancestors).

The same people who do this get very upset (and rightfully so) when people decide that all members of their race are inferior, criminals, ignorant, untrustworthy, lazy, yada (based on the acts of only some, never all).  So it's OK to generalize that everything Confederate was bad and wrong (and nothing commemorating it should be left standing), but it's definitely wrong to generalize (the exact same way) that all members of their race are bad people.

My answer is ..... get over yourself, it's not all about you (or your race).  

    

[Skinhead]

Well said Jess!

[trout dude]

We here are taking bets what will replace the ones being removed. Just wait and see. We are not happy but have no say.

[dreamaker]

Just cuz ya Remove History don't mean ya can Change History. Is the Civil war still taught or at least alluded to in School? Just cuz someone Refuses to acknowledge History don't mean it didn't happen. Town I grew up in-Round Lake Illinois-took down the board that had ALL the names of those that had perished while fighting the Wars of Our Nation from the round Lake Il. area.   I've also heard it said that those that do not study History are Doomed to repeat it.     My neighbors Confederate Flag succumbed to he wind and the sun. I keep asking him to PLEASE install a new Confederate Flag. My American Flag and his Confederate Flag Never once fought each other-they both shared the same wind-kinda like we do as Riders! I'm thinkin you go back far enough you will find Patterson's that fought for the Blue or the Gray. RIDE SAFE..

The reason I have to ask, because it is so stupid, I can't wrap my brain around it. I get so tired of these cry baby, pity pot people. If you don't like, it don't look at it, Simple!! The other thing is, how can people get these offensive flashbacks of past  injustices that they have never experienced or were ever connected to, it makes no sense.  Watching people these days, they get traumatized over the slightest things("Oh, a dog just crapped on my front lawn and I and traumatized because I have to clean it up") Well!  It makes just as much sense. First thing, they can start with is quit dredging up the past and quit living in it.  Learn from it and move on!!

[hubcapsc]

It's sad... not a real town anymore, just a tourist trap. They've
spoken loudly that they don't want my tourist dollars anymore,
but they won't miss them, I'm sure. Big events (Katrina in this
case) can bring big change. Hugo turned the sleepy town of
Charleston SC into a paved-over crowded metropolis. At least
Charleston is merely crowded, and not obnoxious.

-Mike

I've never been to New Orleans or Charleston. Though I hope to some day. When I was a kid we had a big hurricane called Celia that hit Corpus Christi pretty hard. But I don't remember it changing much besides all the construction workers coming in for 6 months. I'm curious why the storm changed Charleston so much ?

Millions, Billions, Grillions of insurance dollars poured in. I co-oped in Charleston a few years before
Hugo, one semester me and my buddy Kent lived in a beach shack at Folly beach for cheap, and waited
on numerous draw bridges to get from here to there. It was easy to go downtown, it was kind of busy
in the morning and evening rush hours. Then Hugo, then BOOM, all the draw bridges are gone, replaced
with giant causeways and in some cases even a raised super-highway that now rings the city. Traffic is
untenable all day long. There's nothing cheap at Folly beach and the miles of marsh between Folly
and the city are now filled with back-to-back condominiums. The same kind of expansion goes out
in the other directions now too.  The old and "new" bridges over the Cooper River have been
replaced with a giant modern bridge and the stuff on the other side of the bridge (Mount Pleasant
and Sullivans Island) have had the snot developed out of them. You have to go way south towards
Walterboro and Edisto to find anything rural in Charleston county now. It is a traffic jam on John's
Island all the way from the Wappoo bridge to Red Top... This could just be "progress",
stuff changes, but Charleston has been there a long time.

I think a lot of the people who had lived in New Orleans a long time are gone now, they weren't
rich, their houses and neighborhoods were wrecked, they didn't all have insurance to
fix it all right away, and they drifted off to other places in order to keep on keeping on.
It's not New Orleans anymore, it is a place to collect money from tourists now.

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's sad... not a real town anymore, just a tourist trap. They've
spoken loudly that they don't want my tourist dollars anymore,
but they won't miss them, I'm sure. Big events (Katrina in this
case) can bring big change. Hugo turned the sleepy town of
Charleston SC into a paved-over crowded metropolis. At least
Charleston is merely crowded, and not obnoxious.

-Mike

I've never been to New Orleans or Charleston. Though I hope to some day. When I was a kid we had a big hurricane called Celia that hit Corpus Christi pretty hard. But I don't remember it changing much besides all the construction workers coming in for 6 months. I'm curious why the storm changed Charleston so much ?

Millions, Billions, Grillions of insurance dollars poured in. I co-oped in Charleston a few years before
Hugo, one semester me and my buddy Kent lived in a beach shack at Folly beach for cheap, and waited
on numerous draw bridges to get from here to there. It was easy to go downtown, it was kind of busy
in the morning and evening rush hours. Then Hugo, then BOOM, all the draw bridges are gone, replaced
with giant causeways and in some cases even a raised super-highway that now rings the city. Traffic is
untenable all day long. There's nothing cheap at Folly beach and the miles of marsh between Folly
and the city are now filled with back-to-back condominiums. The same kind of expansion goes out
in the other directions now too.  The old and "new" bridges over the Cooper River have been
replaced with a giant modern bridge and the stuff on the other side of the bridge (Mount Pleasant
and Sullivans Island) have had the snot developed out of them. You have to go way south towards
Walterboro and Edisto to find anything rural in Charleston county now. It is a traffic jam on John's
Island all the way from the Wappoo bridge to Red Top... This could just be "progress",
stuff changes, but Charleston has been there a long time.

I think a lot of the people who had lived in New Orleans a long time are gone now, they weren't
rich, their houses and neighborhoods were wrecked, they didn't all have insurance to
fix it all right away, and they drifted off to other places in order to keep on keeping on.
It's not New Orleans anymore, it is a place to collect money from tourists now.

-Mike

Thanks for the explanation Mike. Made me think of this old song.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

[G-Man]

That freedom of speech thing only applies if it's not Confederate/Southern related.

Or Conservative, or Libertarian, or anything that doesn't fall in line with the Liberal/Progressive issue du jour.

Or else:

[Robert]

Although they opposed permanent tariffs, political expedience in spite of sound economics prompted the Founding Fathers to pass the first U.S. tariff act. For 72 years, Northern special interest groups used these protective tariffs to exploit the South for their own benefit. Finally in 1861, the oppression of those import duties started the Civil War.

As early as the Revolutionary War, the South primarily produced cotton, rice, sugar, indigo and tobacco. The North purchased these raw materials and turned them into manufactured goods. By 1828, foreign manufactured goods faced high import taxes. Foreign raw materials, however, were free of tariffs.

Thus the domestic manufacturing industries of the North benefited twice, once as the producers enjoying the protection of high manufacturing tariffs and once as consumers with a free raw materials market. The raw materials industries of the South were left to struggle against foreign competition.

We see similar things today with the unfairness in systems. Whats more amazing is we see that this part of history was not taught and we see the north again putting judgement unfairly on the south.