Counteract balance beads

[mark81]

Anybody used this brand?  They are glass beads. I've heard glass beads can break apart and turn to dust but that was from a competitor with ceramic beads.  Has anyone actually had this or any type of balance bead fail?  Ive already bought them and gonna use them just seeing if anyone else has experience with this brand.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've been using them for 3 or 4 years now. No problems. Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

[Gavin_Sons]

Yep, that's the brand i use   

[old2soon]

My I/S currently has as a balancing agent good old take ya back to yer youth-B Bs!    My driveway from the street to her cave is down hill and I walk her backwards to her cave. I hear them loosely changing position as I roll her back. Happy with the inexpensive results!  RIDE SAFE.

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My I/S currently has as a balancing agent good old take ya back to yer youth-B Bs!    My driveway from the street to her cave is down hill and I walk her backwards to her cave. I hear them loosely changing position as I roll her back. Happy with the inexpensive results!  RIDE SAFE.

BB's fit down the valve stem?

[Gavin_Sons]

My I/S currently has as a balancing agent good old take ya back to yer youth-B Bs!    My driveway from the street to her cave is down hill and I walk her backwards to her cave. I hear them loosely changing position as I roll her back. Happy with the inexpensive results!  RIDE SAFE.

BB's fit down the valve stem?

probably add them when changing tires when the bead is not yet set.

[Gavin_Sons]

About 50 BB's per ounce

[The emperor has no clothes]

About 50 BB's per ounce

I would have thought a lot less. That would be 150 for my rear tire and 100 for the front. Are we talking about the steel BB's or the plastic ones ?

[mark81]

I've used bb's on other bikes in the past. I bought these  glass beads because i emptied my kids bb guns into a set of tires i mounted for a buddy last week.  The tire before that was a tube tire on a spoke wheel and with $18 worth of ride on  in it I figured I'd get something that works with tubes too.

[old2soon]

My I/S currently has as a balancing agent good old take ya back to yer youth-B Bs!    My driveway from the street to her cave is down hill and I walk her backwards to her cave. I hear them loosely changing position as I roll her back. Happy with the inexpensive results!  RIDE SAFE.

BB's fit down the valve stem?

          The man from indyanner got it. BEFORE the final-upper-bead is set ya dumps em in. IF you Worry a lot a long stem funnel helps. First time I used the ceramic beads I installed em thru the valve stem. THAT ain't a real practical way to accomplish that mission. Not even a whisper of imbalance with the B Bs. RIDE SAFE.

[Gavin_Sons]

About 50 BB's per ounce

I would have thought a lot less. That would be 150 for my rear tire and 100 for the front. Are we talking about the steel BB's or the plastic ones ?

That is an approximate number for steel bb's. Now I need to get my scale and bb's out to test this theory.

[mark81]

72 steel bb's in an ounce.  if you can believe what is on the internet
http://shotshell.drundel.com/pelletcount.htm

[Gryphon Rider]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

[mark81]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

[Gavin_Sons]

So I just cut open one of my 3 1/2 inch BB shotgun shells and weighed out 90 in an ounce. Couldn't find my bb's for the BB gun. They were not consistent in size at all. I'm sure the ones for bb guns are much more consistent which would lead to a lower number in an ounce. 

[Gavin_Sons]

Copperhead claims 5.1 grains per BB? there are 437.5 grains in an ounce. So 85 and some change BB's makes an oz 
You guys made me do math.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

That went right over my head.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Copperhead claims 5.1 grains per BB? there are 437.5 grains in an ounce. So 85 and some change BB's makes an oz 
You guys made me do math.

With that, it seems the counter act beads must be heavier than BB's by volume. I weigh mine out on a little food scale in a plastic bottle. I would guess the 3 oz. for the rear is approximately 4 or 5 tablespoons. Seems like 250 BB's would be a lot more than that.

[Gavin_Sons]

Copperhead claims 5.1 grains per BB? there are 437.5 grains in an ounce. So 85 and some change BB's makes an oz 
You guys made me do math.

With that, it seems the counter act beads must be heavier than BB's by volume. I weigh mine out on a little food scale in a plastic bottle. I would guess the 3 oz. for the rear is approximately 4 or 5 tablespoons. Seems like 250 BB's would be a lot more than that.

I think you are correct in assuming the counteract beads are more dense.

[Mr Whiskey]

Jus' put my last 3oz's of CounterAct in a 205/55/16 yesterday,
but this is what I'll be using from now on...
http://www.quackco.com/qbzirc.htm
(Specifically the QBZ-58A 0.8 mm)
Guys on the Wing board buy 'em by the pound

[old2soon]

Have a gram/oz scale and I just weigh up the 3 or 4 ozs the tire requires and put the weighed B Bs in an empty plastic drug bottle. WAY easier to weigh em then count em. WHY would ya count em?  RIDE SAFE.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Have a gram/oz scale and I just weigh up the 3 or 4 ozs the tire requires and put the weighed B Bs in an empty plastic drug bottle. WAY easier to weigh em then count em. WHY would ya count em?  RIDE SAFE.

You mean I've been wasting my time counting 547,638 ceramic beads ?

[old2soon]

Have a gram/oz scale and I just weigh up the 3 or 4 ozs the tire requires and put the weighed B Bs in an empty plastic drug bottle. WAY easier to weigh em then count em. WHY would ya count em?  RIDE SAFE.

You mean I've been wasting my time counting 547,638 ceramic beads ?

          Well Dat be up to you!  BUT a lon time ago when I worked in a machine shop we had a scale that counted the parts by weighing them. the balance bam cups? were one was hundreds the other 10s I believe and the big one was thousands? RIDE SAFE.

[Gryphon Rider]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

Think about it. In the unlikely event that beads get in the valve stem, what position does the stem need to be in so that gravity will help the beads fall out of the stem and into the tire? Answer: six o'clock.  If the valve stem were as high as it can go, at twelve o'clock, gravity keeps the beads in the stem.

[jim@98valkyrie.com]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

Think about it. In the unlikely event that beads get in the valve stem, what position does the stem need to be in so that gravity will help the beads fall out of the stem and into the tire? Answer: six o'clock.  If the valve stem were as high as it can go, at twelve o'clock, gravity keeps the beads in the stem.

I've been having an issue with checking the pressure on the rear tire that has Dynabeads in it. The two times I checked, once I pushed the tire pressure gauge on the valve stem, the air leaked out at a pretty good clip. Pushing the valve stem in several times didn't help at all. I ended up letting all the air leak out and pulling the valve stem out. There was a bead stuck right in the back end.....
FWIW, I was checking pressure at the 4 o'clock position -Tourer with bags, so the positions for checking air is limited.

[Gryphon Rider]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

Think about it. In the unlikely event that beads get in the valve stem, what position does the stem need to be in so that gravity will help the beads fall out of the stem and into the tire? Answer: six o'clock.  If the valve stem were as high as it can go, at twelve o'clock, gravity keeps the beads in the stem.

I've been having an issue with checking the pressure on the rear tire that has Dynabeads in it. The two times I checked, once I pushed the tire pressure gauge on the valve stem, the air leaked out at a pretty good clip. Pushing the valve stem in several times didn't help at all. I ended up letting all the air leak out and pulling the valve stem out. There was a bead stuck right in the back end.....
FWIW, I was checking pressure at the 4 o'clock position -Tourer with bags, so the positions for checking air is limited.

I don't think anything can be done to prevent the beads getting in there, but after letting some air out did you give it a good blast of compressed air, or were you using a foot pump? Dynabeads are so light that static electricity alone can hold them anywhere.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

Think about it. In the unlikely event that beads get in the valve stem, what position does the stem need to be in so that gravity will help the beads fall out of the stem and into the tire? Answer: six o'clock.  If the valve stem were as high as it can go, at twelve o'clock, gravity keeps the beads in the stem.

It only happened once to me. But it seemed no amount of Gravity was going to remove it. Took a blast of air.

[jim@98valkyrie.com]

Just check your tire pressure with the valve at 3 or 9 O'clock . 

Why?  Do you have one of those rare tires where the valve stem is through the tread? 

The small beads can get lodged in the valve core and keep it open, less likely when the stem is higher on the wheel and gravity has the beads in the bottom. 

Think about it. In the unlikely event that beads get in the valve stem, what position does the stem need to be in so that gravity will help the beads fall out of the stem and into the tire? Answer: six o'clock.  If the valve stem were as high as it can go, at twelve o'clock, gravity keeps the beads in the stem.

I've been having an issue with checking the pressure on the rear tire that has Dynabeads in it. The two times I checked, once I pushed the tire pressure gauge on the valve stem, the air leaked out at a pretty good clip. Pushing the valve stem in several times didn't help at all. I ended up letting all the air leak out and pulling the valve stem out. There was a bead stuck right in the back end.....
FWIW, I was checking pressure at the 4 o'clock position -Tourer with bags, so the positions for checking air is limited.

I don't think anything can be done to prevent the beads getting in there, but after letting some air out did you give it a good blast of compressed air, or were you using a foot pump? Dynabeads are so light that static electricity alone can hold them anywhere.

I was using compressed air.

[old2soon]

When I had the beads In both tires the rear one-D/S-gave me an issue once with a valve stem that wouldn't reseat. And as we are all aware bags limit your options on the rear wheel for valve stem placement/access. It took the 4th or 5th shot of air to free up the stem. To this point in time the B Bs have NOT given me a valve stem issue. RIDE SAFE..

[heavyd]

I use balance beads in all my tires since I went darkside, I have a variety of brands but T got about 5k km more out of my last front tire with the beads in it. The beads to do my truck tires would have been way too expensive but $6 worth of airsoft pellets did the job great, and probably quieter than steel bb's.

[SCain]

I've been running dyna beads for a long time, I learned a long time ago to hit the valve stem with a shot of air from the air chuck before checking the pressure.

[mark81]

I've been running dyna beads for a long time, I learned a long time ago to hit the valve stem with a shot of air from the air chuck before checking the pressure.

The counteract beads came with valve cores that have a filter on them to prevent them from lodging in the valve. Not sure if it will work with the 90° stems or not.  Only got 4 of them. Almost like they expected me to do 4 tires on a truck instead of a dozen tires on bikes.

Jus' put my last 3oz's of CounterAct in a 205/55/16 yesterday,
but this is what I'll be using from now on...
http://www.quackco.com/qbzirc.htm
(Specifically the QBZ-58A 0.8 mm)
Guys on the Wing board buy 'em by the pound

I remember a post on here about those. Wish I had remembered last week.  Are those small enough to go through the stem?  Only reason I didn't stick with copperhead bb's is a few weeks ago i mounted a tire with a tube on a spoked wheel. Had to make a special trip to get ride-on. Tubes do no good when you cut them open to but in bb's

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've been running dyna beads for a long time, I learned a long time ago to hit the valve stem with a shot of air from the air chuck before checking the pressure.

The counteract beads came with valve cores that have a filter on them to prevent them from lodging in the valve. Not sure if it will work with the 90° stems or not.  Only got 4 of them. Almost like they expected me to do 4 tires on a truck instead of a dozen tires on bikes.

Jus' put my last 3oz's of CounterAct in a 205/55/16 yesterday,
but this is what I'll be using from now on...
http://www.quackco.com/qbzirc.htm
(Specifically the QBZ-58A 0.8 mm)
Guys on the Wing board buy 'em by the pound

I remember a post on here about those. Wish I had remembered last week.  Are those small enough to go through the stem?  Only reason I didn't stick with copperhead bb's is a few weeks ago i mounted a tire with a tube on a spoked wheel. Had to make a special trip to get ride-on. Tubes do no good when you cut them open to but in bb's

The valves with the filter on it won't fit .

[mark81]

[/quote]The valves with the filter on it won't fit .
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Well crap. You ruined my entire life. All I had was that one hope, the slight glimmer of optimizim and you crushed it.  Oh well I only check my tire pressure when I install them and when I feel the dunflops floppin from riding on flats

[The emperor has no clothes]

The valves with the filter on it won't fit .
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Well crap. You ruined my entire life. All I had was that one hope, the slight glimmer of optimizim and you crushed it.  Oh well I only check my tire pressure when I install them and when I feel the dunflops floppin from riding on flats
[/quote] it's not so bad. Just check the pressure off the bottom, and when you have a compressor to use.

[Mr Whiskey]

Are those small enough to go through the stem?

Dunno, haven't ordered any yet

I ended up letting all the air leak out and pulling the valve stem out.

Yeah, I've had that happen. Gotta be at a pump to check pressure with beads installed. Doesn't matter what position the valve stem's at, the escaping air will pick 'em up & jam 'em in the valve core.
4377, I've gotten in the habit of spittin' in the valve stem to make sure it aint leakin'.
Should see some of the looks I get
beats a flat tire 5 miles down the road,  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯