pais
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« on: May 20, 2017, 09:55:46 AM » |
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.....gas too make it to the gas station. Trip meter says 151.6. I went to reserve the other night on my way home. Maybe 4-5 miles, I think trip meter read 145 then. 151.6 miles to a full tank of 90 octane pure gas? Something's up, does not seem right. Pringle fuel shut off.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 10:26:41 AM » |
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"reserve" IS dependent on the length of the dip leg. I seem to recollect something about this with Pingel usage. Less reserve. Sure others will chime in. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 11:28:12 AM » |
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I believe without a modification, Pingle petcocks give less than half the stock valk reserve of 1.1 gal (maybe even a third). I don't know what the reserve on a Pringle is.  |
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 11:53:38 AM » |
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Standard or IS?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 12:22:42 PM » |
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I figure 13-15 miles on my Pingel for reserve. Can't be much over a quart.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 01:23:17 PM » |
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I figure 13-15 miles on my Pingel for reserve. Can't be much over a quart.
Sounds about right to me on My standard. When the Pingel goes to reserve - I have about 1/3 gallon (because I've put 5 gallons in at that point). My view - going to reserve means FIND FUEL NOW !!!! |
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pais
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 02:26:33 PM » |
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Standard or IS?
Standard, 1/3 of a gallon sounds about right. Based on mileage I got, before I ran out. I've read here that reserve is reduced with a Pingle. I just found out today just how reduced, wow! |
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 02:40:24 PM » |
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Your bike was not designed to run on high octane fuel.  |
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 02:52:49 PM » |
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Your bike was not designed to run on high octane fuel. He said he used 90 octane, I wouldn't exactly call that high octane. |
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pais
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 04:54:37 PM » |
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Your bike was not designed to run on high octane fuel. The pure gas available around here is only available in 90 octane. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2017, 07:15:57 PM » |
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I do not see enough difference in better mpg using 87 octane 10% ethanol vs. 91 octane NON ethanol gas, even with 91 octane and a shot of 105 octane boost, not worth the added expense per gallon for sure.
running out of gas sucks, only done that once and not fun pushing....
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2017, 07:39:35 PM » |
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I can honestly say I have NEVER EVER run out of fuel in any vehicle I've operated. My motorcyclea have mostly had reserve (and I reset the tripmeter at every fillup )- I know pretty much how far I can go before hitting reserve. My one bike that did have a fuel guage was the PC800 - I've seriously considered doing a retrofit on the Valk...
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2017, 04:03:54 AM » |
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I can honestly say I have NEVER EVER run out of fuel in any vehicle I've operated. My motorcyclea have mostly had reserve (and I reset the tripmeter at every fillup )- I know pretty much how far I can go before hitting reserve. My one bike that did have a fuel guage was the PC800 - I've seriously considered doing a retrofit on the Valk...
I've seriously considered doing the same.....that would be a good winter project. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2017, 04:26:49 AM » |
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Put in a belly tank for many of the reasons here. I must say I really like it and the extended range it provides.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2017, 06:16:52 AM » |
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I can honestly say I have NEVER EVER run out of fuel in any vehicle I've operated. My motorcyclea have mostly had reserve (and I reset the tripmeter at every fillup )- I know pretty much how far I can go before hitting reserve. My one bike that did have a fuel guage was the PC800 - I've seriously considered doing a retrofit on the Valk...
I can honestly say I have NEVER EVER run out of fuel in any vehicle I've operated. My motorcyclea have mostly had reserve (and I reset the tripmeter at every fillup )- I know pretty much how far I can go before hitting reserve. My one bike that did have a fuel guage was the PC800 - I've seriously considered doing a retrofit on the Valk...
I've seriously considered doing the same.....that would be a good winter project. Last Thursday, Romeo, Aquaman, Al-V and I met up at the Romeo, MI weekly bike night. It is the usual Harley fest, but our Valks always get some attention. Anyway, some long-haired, hippie kid rolls up on 4 cylinder Rat-rod hard tail chopper that got our attention, I think it may have been a Kawasaki 1000. Total "rat" patina, and he had the best fuel gauge I eve saw. He had welded a pipe elbow to the side of the tank with the open end facing up and epoxied an inverted glass Jack Daniel's pint bottle to it, complete with label. I wish I had gotten a picture, I will next time I see it. I think you guys could copy this fairly inexpensively. |
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2017, 09:58:17 AM » |
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Actually our bikes run better on 90 octane fuel. If you use lower octane then if you listen you will hear a slight ping while it runs. Higher octane takes that away and it runs better.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2017, 04:28:51 PM » |
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Headin to Inzane in Asheville N.C. and my brother and I stopped at a little mom and pop gas station and all they had was Corn free. The butt dyno Did Notice the difference. I/S has two trip meters and a fuel gage. I've hit reserve a time or three but have yet to run out. Buck twenty buck fifty tween fuel stops plenty fer dis ol fart.  Then the bones want/need/desire a stretch! RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2017, 04:40:52 PM » |
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Actually our bikes run better on 90 octane fuel. If you use lower octane then if you listen you will hear a slight ping while it runs. Higher octane takes that away and it runs better.
I've been using 87 for years and have never heard nary a ping. Do you have an after market trigger wheel on yours ? |
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2017, 04:54:44 PM » |
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Octane here is 85-87 or 91. If you run 91 octane here your bike won't hardly pull its self up the hills. I run 85. You might get away with 90 in the flat lands but not here. |
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2017, 05:04:10 PM » |
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Actually our bikes run better on 90 octane fuel. If you use lower octane then if you listen you will hear a slight ping while it runs. Higher octane takes that away and it runs better.
Mine runs better the cheaper the gas. It does like pure gas, but octane is basically irrelevant. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2017, 07:53:14 PM » |
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Might sound stupid but don't know what a trigger wheel is.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2017, 08:21:22 PM » |
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Might sound stupid but don't know what a trigger wheel is.
It's not stupid at all. It's a little disc that controls the advance on the timing. Many guys have put on 4* or 6* advance wheels. Is your bike original to you ? If not it's possible that it has a trigger wheel. I just ask, because that's the only reason I can think of it pinging. Besides higher compression, which I would doubt. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2017, 04:46:00 AM » |
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Headin to Inzane in Asheville N.C. and my brother and I stopped at a little mom and pop gas station and all they had was Corn free. The butt dyno Did Notice the difference. I/S has two trip meters and a fuel gage. I've hit reserve a time or three but have yet to run out. Buck twenty buck fifty tween fuel stops plenty fer dis ol fart. Then the bones want/need/desire a stretch! RIDE SAFE. The pure gas is available one city over, about 5-6 mile ride. If I do not have somewhat of a lengthy trip planned. I like to run the pure gas every chance I can. Bike runs fine with the 90 octane and I store the Valk with a tankful of pure gas for the Winter. Having carb problems from day one of ownership. Pulling what very little hair I have out rebuilding carbs. The pure gas is my piece of mind with this 6cyl. carbureted beast. This is theee very first time I've ever run out of motion potion on a cycle. (numerous times in a cage, see another post)  Not thinking about the "new" amount of miles before reserve with the Pingle- 145 miles. Back of my mind I've read numerous times on here of the reduced reserve with a Pingle. If I remember correctly, I used to go to reserve with stock s/o @ 125 give or take. I never ran it out on reserve with the stock s/o. Regardless this was a case of basic math. Just a different equation and I flunked! I echo what Cookiedough said, "not fun pushing"! I was fortunate that I was close to a parking lot and only had to push a short way to the top of a rise and coasted into the lot. Called my son and he came to the rescue. Now the 3 comedians in the house have new material for awhile. |
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 05:36:33 AM » |
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Pais, pure gas (only 87) is 50 miles away from me, and since this station opened (closest to me) last year, I have been trying to stop and fill up before returning home on each day ride. It is west, and I always go west to ride, away from traffic and MD. This is a great way to keep my carbs ungummed on two bikes, where one sits for a couple months while I ride the other before switching. I also took my car out there last winter and filled up every tank I have, so I run it in my other carberated machines. I have 21 carberators (including the 12 on my bikes), and this is working out well for me.
I have been passing a lot of gas stations when I normally would be filling up sooner, so I've been running the tank lower (and into reserve) more than usual. Rather than push it though, I have stopped and put one gal of crap gas in when I have to. Sure, it will run on corn polluted gas, but I am doing my best to run (and worse, to let sit in any machinery) as little as possible.
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