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t-man403
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« on: May 29, 2017, 08:15:36 AM »

My buddy rides a GS850 he bobbed.

Last night well riding with him in the lead, at 110 km/hr, all od a sudden there is smoke pouring off his rear tire  Shocked !!!

I look to each ditch to see what animal is coming out at him while I'm braking heavily. He does a bit of fish tailing at the end of his skid and come to a halt. Probably at least a 200 ft. skid. He did a great job of keeping it straight.

As it turned out, it seems the final drive locked up. The brake pads were off the disk and we managed to put the bike in neutral and start the engine. All that left is the final drive.

Anyone else ever have or hear of this happening?
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 09:52:59 AM »

Never heard of that - wow!  Glad you were riding at a safe distance and could stop without crashing into him.  I'll be watching the post to see what the problem was - just not familiar enough with that bike to have an opinion.  The usual suspect would be lubrication failure - like he drained the differential and forgot to refill it?  I dunno.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 10:15:23 AM »

Very tipical on the Beemers to toast the rear ends. Had a friend that his cault Fire and burned off the break line hose. Break fluid is very flammable. Car came up from behind and alerted him of the fire. He had his croise control set at the time and never felt that any thing was wrong.
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 12:25:14 PM »

I know a fellow, who I haven't talked to in years, who at the time had a GS850L.  I sold him my GS850L as a parts bike, as mine had a holed piston.  If your buddy is having trouble finding parts to fix his bike, I might be able to track my friend down to see if he can help out with parts.
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da prez
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 05:29:23 AM »

  Beemer had two major problems that they tried to keep quiet(?) . The rear bearing failure and the abs braking system. I do not remember the year or model as we only do tires on them. Anything else is turned away. We are not able to handle any thing else because of the tools and computers.

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t-man403
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 09:12:04 AM »

I know a fellow, who I haven't talked to in years, who at the time had a GS850L.  I sold him my GS850L as a parts bike, as mine had a holed piston.  If your buddy is having trouble finding parts to fix his bike, I might be able to track my friend down to see if he can help out with parts.

I will let him know, thx.

I do know that he found a parts bike and that the final drive is from it. He was going to put the original back on.
I'm having a hard time believing this could happen.  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 03:49:12 PM »

  No matter the miles , suggest he checks with BMW. If they do anything , get it in writing , exactly.
  If I remember , consumers report had an article on this issue.

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t-man403
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 04:24:07 PM »

  No matter the miles , suggest he checks with BMW. If they do anything , get it in writing , exactly.
  If I remember , consumers report had an article on this issue.

                                             da prez

Guess I should have mentioned it's a Suzuki ....... sorry.

Anyway, he says the tranny seized up. Uses gear oil and it was low.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 04:40:56 PM »

A friend of mine that I ride with got a brand new Kawasaki Concours. We live close by so he took it out on the Blue Ridge Parkway for a ride. With only 50 miles on the bike the rear end locks up. Just by sure luck he was on a straight not in a turn. They did not put oil in the rear end. He told the dealer if they did not give him back every penny of his money (including the $350 dealer prep) then he was going to sue them.
They refunded all his money.

Thanks, David in Fletcher NC. 
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David in Fletcher NC
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 05:42:23 PM »

  No matter the miles , suggest he checks with BMW. If they do anything , get it in writing , exactly.
  If I remember , consumers report had an article on this issue.

                                             da prez

Guess I should have mentioned it's a Suzuki ....... sorry.

Anyway, he says the tranny seized up. Uses gear oil and it was low.
I didn't know BMW made an 850, so I always assumed it was a Suzuki. I've not owned one, but always felt them to be pretty durable. Just so I understand correctly, it was the rear end low on gear oil ? Not the transmission ?
 Your story made me think back to an incident I had when 16. Me and 2 friends all had Yamaha RD 350's at the time. We took off for Kenai one weekend. I had mine hopped up with milled heads, porting, and pipes. GREAT BIKE !!! Anyway I was leading thru a section of tight corners along the river, come to a 1/2 mile straight stretch and open her up. Evidently it was hot the point of the engine seizing up. Rear tire locks up at 70. My buddies both have to lay on the brakes to avoid me squirming to a stop. Took us a few hours to get her freed up and going again. At the time I was fairly fearless and stupid, it didn't really bother me that much. But thinking back, I was lucky to keep the bike upright. I shudder to think what would have been like if it happened on one of those 25mph corners.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2017, 08:05:00 PM »

I knew a guy that we used to hang with at a coffee shop.  He had a nice custom HD, motor customized up too.

He said it was making a strange noise and was riding it home.

It locked up on him while on the road.   Witnesses said he swerved back and forth a couple of times, looked like he saved it, then it went over.

He had a brain bucket on.

He didn't make it.
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Bigwolf
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2017, 11:49:57 PM »

That would sure put the pucker in superclamp mode!  Glad your buddy kept it upright.

Never had that happen on a bike but have experienced it in a short wheelbase Jeep CJ......twice.  It seems early munci 4speeds had a lube deficit between 1st gear and the main shaft.  First gear would weld itself to the main shaft when in high gear and high speed for extended time.  Nothing turns then until you can hammer it out of high.

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t-man403
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2017, 03:40:04 PM »

  No matter the miles , suggest he checks with BMW. If they do anything , get it in writing , exactly.
  If I remember , consumers report had an article on this issue.

                                             da prez

Guess I should have mentioned it's a Suzuki ....... sorry.

Anyway, he says the tranny seized up. Uses gear oil and it was low.
Just so I understand correctly, it was the rear end low on gear oil ? Not the transmission ?
 

It was the transmission that locked up as it was low on oil. Uses 90 weight gear oil ..... separate from the motor oil.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2017, 03:42:02 PM »

  No matter the miles , suggest he checks with BMW. If they do anything , get it in writing , exactly.
  If I remember , consumers report had an article on this issue.

                                             da prez

Guess I should have mentioned it's a Suzuki ....... sorry.

Anyway, he says the tranny seized up. Uses gear oil and it was low.
Just so I understand correctly, it was the rear end low on gear oil ? Not the transmission ?
 

It was the transmission that locked up as it was low on oil. Uses 90 weight gear oil ..... separate from the motor oil.
Oh, I didn't know that.  cooldude
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