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« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2017, 07:05:48 AM » |
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I wouldn't support such a thing because even the irrational have Constitutional rights. But, I think if you took firearms away from the left, gun crime would drop to near zero.
I think if you somehow stopped all criminal acts committed by the left, 90% of all crime in the US would end overnight.
What used to be the party of equality and justice has morphed into the party of irrationality, dishonesty, anger and hate. Probably the reason much of the left back taking away our Constitutional rights is because they know they are not emotionally stable enough to handle those rights.
The Dems have had some great leaders in the past, JFK being one of them and maybe the most recent. We can only hope they will come back to supporting working US citizens, inclusion instead of division, our civil rights including our 2nd Amendment rights and rationality instead of the hysterical hand wringing and hate mongering which undoubtedly triggered this lunatic.
The Republicans are far from perfect, Trump is far from perfect as are all of us. But, for the foreseeable future they seem to be the only rational team in town.
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« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2017, 07:06:59 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". |
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« Reply #82 on: June 16, 2017, 07:13:33 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". Not every fact needs a study to be proven true. Do you know the sky is blue without being studied ? See how easy that was ? I have no idea what the exact percentages are relating to crimes and political affiliation. But I can state for sure it is not 90%. |
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« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2017, 07:24:12 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". Not every fact needs a study to be proven true. Do you know the sky is blue without being studied ? See how easy that was ? I have no idea what the exact percentages are relating to crimes and political affiliation. But I can state for sure it is not 90%. Perhaps they are converted while in prison  |
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« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2017, 07:41:21 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". Not every fact needs a study to be proven true. Do you know the sky is blue without being studied ? See how easy that was ? I have no idea what the exact percentages are relating to crimes and political affiliation. But I can state for sure it is not 90%. I can agree with your opinion but that doesn't make it a fact. |
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« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2017, 07:41:50 AM » |
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We have to kill all republicans as soon as possible because: Regarding healthcare: People will die! They will take care away from children with cancer and they will die! They will throw grandma off a cliff and she will die! They will stop services for pre-existing conditions and they will die! Regarding Environment: People will die! They are against global warming, so people will burn and die! They want dirty air so people will die, by breathing! They want dirty water so people will die, by drinking mud! The seas will rise and people will die, by drowning! Regarding welfare: People will die! They want to take free lunches from kids, so they will die, of starvation! They want to stop food cards/stamps, so people will die of starvation! They will end section 8, so people will die in the streets! So, you see, we have to kill them before they kill us! Aaaaand, since Maxine Waters declared that Republicans can go to hell, and comedians should be allowed to hold up decapitated heads of the president, and plays can be re-written to kill the sitting president, it must be OK for the average person to go out and kill Republicans, right? |
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« Reply #86 on: June 16, 2017, 07:47:47 AM » |
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If you were to make a map of the US showing the highest crime areas of the country. And if you were to then make a map of the highest concentrations of Hillary voters. How close to the same do you think they would be?
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« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2017, 08:01:11 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. If you were to make a map of the US showing the highest crime areas of the country. And if you were to then make a map of the highest concentrations of Hillary voters. How close to the same do you think they would be? We could start a list. For and against to keep it fair and reasonable  On the clinton side of the scale Chicago Baltimore |
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« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2017, 10:13:30 AM » |
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I knew I'd see comparative maps somewhere. About 1/4 of the way down this page you will see both maps. There is also some pretty interesting info here but the guy could sure use a proof reader. https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/truth-gun-violence/#axzz4jpvHHjaV |
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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2017, 11:10:30 AM » |
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« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2017, 11:53:34 AM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. But of course, you are correct Mike. What your detractors are ignoring, it that the Free Sh!t Army, who commit the majority of violent crime, nearly all vote democrat (as in all major urban areas everywhere, and clearly the solid blue liberal voting regions in the country). Calling them liberals in the classic sense may seem wrong since for the most part they are not truly ideologically/politically driven. Instead, they would vote for anyone who gave them the most free stuff, but since that will always be the democratic party, that is how they overwhelmingly vote. Whether or not they are actual liberals, they unquestionably are democrats. They certainly cannot be called conservatives. Now saying that liberals commit more politically ideological murder and violence than conservatives, is not the same thing as saying they commit most violent crime. The majority of violent crime is not political, it is purely self serving (as is the Free Sh!t Army). Ideologically driven violence is harder to calculate, but lately anyway, it also seems to be coming much more from the liberal than conservative side. If ideological liberal violence was to get completely out of hand, I'm sure the conservatives could easily take the lead in most violent ideological crimes, since we are ideologically the best armed, trained, veteran, interest group in America. And that will also never change. Course, we would not call it crime, but restoration of order, but such a defense would probably fail (depending on the jury). But we are also the most law abiding, and law and order folks in the country too, so that is unlikely to happen. But it could happen. Liberals should not take silence and inaction from conservatives as a sign of weakness, it is only a sign of reasoned judgment, and self restraint. Something many liberals seem to lack. |
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« Reply #91 on: June 16, 2017, 12:05:08 PM » |
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Being as half the population doesn't even vote or have any interest in politics, I find your analysis flawed just from a pure math point of view.
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« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2017, 12:21:44 PM » |
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If you were to make a map of the US showing the highest crime areas of the country. And if you were to then make a map of the highest concentrations of Hillary voters. How close to the same do you think they would be?
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« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2017, 12:25:19 PM » |
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So do the Cape Verde islands
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« Reply #94 on: June 16, 2017, 01:03:51 PM » |
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« Reply #95 on: June 16, 2017, 01:22:19 PM » |
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I have a bad case of gallows humor... Apologies if you don't share in my love of the same... You're going to ...... well, somewhere, for that one, Serk. Clever.... |
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« Reply #96 on: June 16, 2017, 06:26:58 PM » |
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Do you remember people were afraid to tell anyone, even their friends they were voting for Trump?
Nope, most that I knew were very proud of it. After a lot of the primaries, voters were asked who they voted for. Many said Trump, but we're unwilling to admit it earlier. This is reason why he did so much better than polls had him doing. |
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« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2017, 12:57:31 PM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". Not every fact needs a study to be proven true. Do you know the sky is blue without being studied ? See how easy that was ? I have no idea what the exact percentages are relating to crimes and political affiliation. But I can state for sure it is not 90%. Actually, the sky isn't blue. It's a refraction of light that causes it to appear blue (it can APPEAR to be many other colors, too!). The sky is actually black. |
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« Reply #98 on: June 18, 2017, 01:11:09 PM » |
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Believe what you want. Facts are facts.
Not true. Some people (not saying you in particular) see what they want in any 'facts' displayed. Many say that it is a fact that Trump is a racist, mysoginist, otherist-that is all opinion. Most people only agree with 'facts' if they are in agreement with what they already think. One fact is established-Trump IS President of the United States now. What you are describing are opinions. It is a fact that Trump is President. It is a fact that the sky is blue. It is a fact that 90% of crimes are not committed by liberals. Your last sentence is opinion not fact as would be the statement that 90% are committed by liberals. See how easy it is to fall into the web of posting untruths, that is unless you know of a study that proves your last sentence as a "fact". Not every fact needs a study to be proven true. Do you know the sky is blue without being studied ? See how easy that was ? I have no idea what the exact percentages are relating to crimes and political affiliation. But I can state for sure it is not 90%. Actually, the sky isn't blue. It's a refraction of light that causes it to appear blue (it can APPEAR to be many other colors, too!). The sky is actually black. So, my Green /Silver interstate is the fastest color because the absence of light makes it Black? |
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« Reply #99 on: June 18, 2017, 06:04:22 PM » |
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Liberals should not take silence and inaction from conservatives as a sign of weakness, it is only a sign of reasoned judgment, and self restraint. Something many liberals seem to lack.
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« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2017, 08:54:46 AM » |
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Agreed. Both sides, but right now it is the Libs going nuts over the President. I see the article blamed Trump. What about YEARS and YEARS if Dems blaming right wing and Repubs for EVERY shooting going on? I know not where it ends, or even slows down. There is no middle ground anymore. The right demands a REAL conservative. The left says Sanders, an avowed Socialist, is still not far enough left How do those two EVER even come close to compromise? |
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« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2017, 10:26:50 AM » |
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Agreed. Both sides, but right now it is the Libs going nuts over the President. I see the article blamed Trump. What about YEARS and YEARS if Dems blaming right wing and Repubs for EVERY shooting going on? I know not where it ends, or even slows down. There is no middle ground anymore. The right demands a REAL conservative. The left says Sanders, an avowed Socialist, is still not far enough left How do those two EVER even come close to compromise? Maybe by the first step being we are all Americans in this together. |
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« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2017, 02:34:32 PM » |
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Agreed. Both sides, but right now it is the Libs going nuts over the President. I see the article blamed Trump. What about YEARS and YEARS if Dems blaming right wing and Repubs for EVERY shooting going on? I know not where it ends, or even slows down. There is no middle ground anymore. The right demands a REAL conservative. The left says Sanders, an avowed Socialist, is still not far enough left How do those two EVER even come close to compromise? Maybe by the first step being we are all Americans in this together. What a novel idea ! I'm thinking many have said that very thing. It hasn't gone very far though. The way I see it, the left wants no part of that and they are getting crazier by the minute. |
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« Reply #105 on: June 19, 2017, 03:14:39 PM » |
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Agreed. Both sides, but right now it is the Libs going nuts over the President. I see the article blamed Trump. What about YEARS and YEARS if Dems blaming right wing and Repubs for EVERY shooting going on? I know not where it ends, or even slows down. There is no middle ground anymore. The right demands a REAL conservative. The left says Sanders, an avowed Socialist, is still not far enough left How do those two EVER even come close to compromise? Maybe by the first step being we are all Americans in this together. What a novel idea ! I'm thinking many have said that very thing. It hasn't gone very far though. The way I see it, the left wants no part of that and they are getting crazier by the minute. Good start !  |
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« Reply #106 on: June 19, 2017, 04:01:49 PM » |
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The "ass hats" that wrote , directed and acted in a Trump Assassination Play Sponsored By The New York Times... Kathy Griffon's "Trump Beheading"...the call to blow up the Whitehouse(Maddonna)...The Daily Dose of Ugly Poisonous Vitreol from the MSM...Schools photoshopping out the Trump name from clothing worn proudly by students for their Yearbook Pictures...Soros Funded Antifa Marxists rioting every day somewhere. All snivelling cowards hiding behind or defying the first amendment.
The Left has gone Full On Melt Down Lunatic Fringe. This shooting is just one more call to violence by the haters.
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