impressive (military)

[Wizzard]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/report-record-2-mile-sniper-shot-kills-isis-militant-in-iraq/ar-BBD1Qjl

[Beardo]

Impressive indeed.

[Wizzard]

And he was Canadian eh? 

[old2soon]

JUST got off the talker with my Brother on this story. He and I agree-a good story with a happy ending.    Story I read on m s n Never mentioned rifle type or rifle caliber.  But as a guess at 3450 meters likely a .50 cal? And as another guess-Barrett launch system? RIDE SAFE.

[The emperor has no clothes]

And he was Canadian eh? 

3 of the top 5 long distance kills are from Canucks. Impressive for a country that relies on the U.S. to defend them. 

[Beardo]

The defence philosophy for the last while has been, we can't do it all, but what we can do, let's do it well.

....except for our submarine program. And our helicopters. And our aging F18's.    But that's political BS and stalling involved in that.

[hubcapsc]

The sniper worked in tandem with an observer, who helps to spot targets, and used a standard Canadian military issued McMillan TAC-50 rifle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40372403

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

Spendy little bastard (not including optic). (easily another $2-3K)

Ammo is $6-7 per shot too.

http://www.eurooptic.com/mcmillan-rh-tac-50-a1-r2-bmg-29-fluted-barrel-black-and-one-mag.aspx

Be nice to get a dollar a head (back). 

[Beardo]

Curious what they used for optics to see ANYTHING that far away.

[old2soon]

Spendy little bastard (not including optic). (easily another $2-3K)

Ammo is $6-7 per shot too.

http://www.eurooptic.com/mcmillan-rh-tac-50-a1-r2-bmg-29-fluted-barrel-black-and-one-mag.aspx

Be nice to get a dollar a head (back). 

                     Jess-I've been good REALLY I have!  Buy it fer me-PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!  Oh-and bout 700-800 rounds of ammo also!  RIDE SAFE.

[Jess from VA]

Spendy little bastard (not including optic). (easily another $2-3K)

Ammo is $6-7 per shot too.

http://www.eurooptic.com/mcmillan-rh-tac-50-a1-r2-bmg-29-fluted-barrel-black-and-one-mag.aspx

Be nice to get a dollar a head (back). 

                     Jess-I've been good REALLY I have!  Buy it fer me-PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!  Oh-and bout 700-800 rounds of ammo also!  RIDE SAFE.

No.   I'm a pensioner just like you buddy.

But I can make you a good deal on a .22cal RWS Diana spring piston air rifle.

Similar to this.


2 1/2 mile shots are out.  But you can annoy varmints with one.   

[Jess from VA]

Curious what they used for optics to see ANYTHING that far away.

Something like one of these.

Leupold’s Mark IV series scopes, with their 140 minutes of elevation adjustment, are the overwhelming favorites for .50 shooting and are standard equipment on several manufacturers’ guns, such as the Barrett M82A1.

https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-lrt-16x40mm-30mm-m1/

http://shop.opticsplanet.com/barrett-bors-with-leupold-mark-4-5-14x50mm-scope-includes-barrett-ultra-high-rin.html?_iv_code=BA2-RS-13831&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2qbm6JrS1AIVm1cNCh3znAZGEAQYASABEgK_z_D_BwE

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/175933/premier-heritage-tactical-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-15x-50mm-side-focus-double-turn-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-illuminated-gen-2-xr-reticle-matte

http://www.defensereview.com/mcmillantrackingpoint-50-bmg-precision-guided-rifle-pgr-meet-the-future-3100-yard-super-gun-with-xactsystem-smart-scope-technology/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LSX9EIC?tag=reloaderaddict-20

https://swfa.com/optics/riflescopes.html?brand=U.S.%20Optics

And this is not even adding night vision or thermal.

[Beardo]

Ive got a 2.5-16x50 on my .300WM and I while I've never looked at a human through it, a deer is awfully small at a mile. I'd think they'd need something with a lot more zoom than that.

No matter what they used, that takes unbelievable skill, and I'd imagine some luck to hit something that far away.

[Jess from VA]

I'd go with the skill (training) over luck.  And I have read that the Canadians have stuck with the two man sniper team concept (of old), with the spotter doing a lot of assistance with longer range shooting.  (Probably computers and techy stuff.)

Of course, when you shoot so far you have to calculate not only windage and elevation (and temps), but curvature of the earth, luck is certainly an element of any shot.  

There have been somewhat recent improvements in the 300 win mag cartridge to make it a near rival for the 338 lapua (military not commercial).  (cost per round is paramount, but so is recoil)

I just read this in my monthly American Rifleman.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/5/24/unsung-hero-the-mk-248-mod-1/

Of course, I think no responsible hunter should be taking shots like this at any game, but when the game is a murdering barbarian, any distance is worth the try.

And it's hard to find one or two mile rifle ranges for paper shooting. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Ive got a 2.5-16x50 on my .300WM and I while I've never looked at a human through it, a deer is awfully small at a mile. I'd think they'd need something with a lot more zoom than that.

No matter what they used, that takes unbelievable skill, and I'd imagine some luck to hit something that far away.

I'd say ! A moose is about 4 times the size of a man. I will only attempt shots out to 300 yards. Can't imagine a mile, much less 2.1 miles. How someone could hold that steady is beyond me.

[Beardo]

I'd be impressed with a range finder that could even range to that distance. Or would they use some kind of drone assistance to get the distance or ??  Anyone know how they range that far?  I suppose they'd have something a little better than a $300 Range finder from Cabelas that has a hard time ranging a target at 500yds. . 

I didn't know the US went away from 2 man sniper teams?  What would the reason for that be? Is Canada in the minority to still use a 2 man team? With the recoil of the big rifles, it's kinda hard to see shots land. And while the movies seem to show snipers making the kill on the first shot, for real long distance shots, I think you'd want to see where the first shot landed so you could make the necessary adjustments.

And no, I'm not questioning the fighting ability of the US military and their snipers  , I'm just wondering if you know, sounds like some of you guys know your stuff.

[Jess from VA]

I'm not entirely sure about American snipers, and of course the various military branches will differ.

I believe they still use and train 2-man teams in schools, but there are also plenty of lone operators.  And the Army now now has Designated Marksmen, assigned down to unit levels, that are not considered true snipers, but who get more training and better long range weapons to carry at the unit level, and who are called upon when needed by their units in the field.  This is a very good idea when the men in these units regularly carry M4 (16"bbl) M16s (and I believe the Marines still carry std 20" bbl rifles). 

And I think a lot of this has to do with constant ops in the Middle East for 20 years (methods change to meet the operational needs).  I don't think we send out two man teams on their own, far into Indian country over there.  That would be a very bad idea when you can't ever trust any of the indigenous forces supposedly on OUR side, or any of the local population either.  Sniping over there has really become over-watch of regular forces in action.   

[rocketray]

google-"kris Kyles sniper rifles"  you tube has some amusement on shooting tannerite--some nearly fatal

[Gavin_Sons]

Ive got a 2.5-16x50 on my .300WM and I while I've never looked at a human through it, a deer is awfully small at a mile. I'd think they'd need something with a lot more zoom than that.

No matter what they used, that takes unbelievable skill, and I'd imagine some luck to hit something that far away.

I'd say ! A moose is about 4 times the size of a man. I will only attempt shots out to 300 yards. Can't imagine a mile, much less 2.1 miles. How someone could hold that steady is beyond me.

Only 300 yards? I dropped 2 whitetailes this past season at 250 yards with a 243. With a 300 wm I wouldn't be afraid of a 500 yard shot on a moose. But then again a moose is a tough creature. Would rather use a 500 s&w in a rifle and 700 grain bullets. Bullet placement is key on large game.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Ive got a 2.5-16x50 on my .300WM and I while I've never looked at a human through it, a deer is awfully small at a mile. I'd think they'd need something with a lot more zoom than that.

No matter what they used, that takes unbelievable skill, and I'd imagine some luck to hit something that far away.

I'd say ! A moose is about 4 times the size of a man. I will only attempt shots out to 300 yards. Can't imagine a mile, much less 2.1 miles. How someone could hold that steady is beyond me.

Only 300 yards? I dropped 2 whitetailes this past season at 250 yards with a 243. With a 300 wm I wouldn't be afraid of a 500 yard shot on a moose. But then again a moose is a tough creature. Would rather use a 500 s&w in a rifle and 700 grain bullets. Bullet placement is key on large game.

I just don't feel accurate enough past 300 yards.

[Gavin_Sons]

Ive got a 2.5-16x50 on my .300WM and I while I've never looked at a human through it, a deer is awfully small at a mile. I'd think they'd need something with a lot more zoom than that.

No matter what they used, that takes unbelievable skill, and I'd imagine some luck to hit something that far away.

I'd say ! A moose is about 4 times the size of a man. I will only attempt shots out to 300 yards. Can't imagine a mile, much less 2.1 miles. How someone could hold that steady is beyond me.

I regularly practice at 400 yards. Makes everything closer seem easier. I would not take a deer with the 243 past 300 yards. It loses alot of energy past that.
Only 300 yards? I dropped 2 whitetailes this past season at 250 yards with a 243. With a 300 wm I wouldn't be afraid of a 500 yard shot on a moose. But then again a moose is a tough creature. Would rather use a 500 s&w in a rifle and 700 grain bullets. Bullet placement is key on large game.

I just don't feel accurate enough past 300 yards.

[Jess from VA]

Regarding distance shots, after my experience with several near heart attacks, lugging a (gutted) deer up and down hills and through woods and brambles and thorns for hours in frigid cold weather, I've decided the real skill would be to somehow lure them into your truck, then shoot them.    

[The emperor has no clothes]

Regarding distance shots, after my experience with several near heart attacks, lugging a (gutted) deer up and down hills and through woods and brambles and thorns for hours in frigid cold weather, I've decided the real skill would be to somehow lure them into your truck, then shoot them.    

[0leman]

Two mile shot is impressive.   Can't image getting a 2 mile shot at moose or elk because of vegetation.   

I have shot 19 elk and a bunch of mule deer and antelope while living in WY.  I used a 7mm mag Ruger rifle fitted with a 4 power scope.   I hand loaded 160 grain bullets leaving at around 3K fps.  This load was good enough for one shot one kill type action for killing an Elk.  I shot some as close as 40 yards and some at the 300 yard mark.  All the same result.  one shot one kill.  Off sand bags, I could shoot less than a minute three shot groups at 100 yards and 3 minute groups at 300 yards.  If I missed any shots at critters, I could blame the rife.

Never had a chance to hunt a Moose.  but would have used that load to take them down.  As said before, placement is everything.

[solo1]

Wow! 2 miles. 

The farthest that I have shot is a mulie in Wyomng using a Ruger 77 in 7mm Rem. Weaver 4x fixed scope and a handload 140 Nosler partition with 4831.

BTW, There is a Canadian movie on Netflix about a two man Canadian sniper team in Afghanistan using a Barrett.  The movie is called  Hyena Road

Excellent movie. Seemed accurate.(pun intended.)

[The emperor has no clothes]

Two mile shot is impressive.   Can't image getting a 2 mile shot at moose or elk because of vegetation.   

I have shot 19 elk and a bunch of mule deer and antelope while living in WY.  I used a 7mm mag Ruger rifle fitted with a 4 power scope.   I hand loaded 160 grain bullets leaving at around 3K fps.  This load was good enough for one shot one kill type action for killing an Elk.  I shot some as close as 40 yards and some at the 300 yard mark.  All the same result.  one shot one kill.  Off sand bags, I could shoot less than a minute three shot groups at 100 yards and 3 minute groups at 300 yards.  If I missed any shots at critters, I could blame the rife.

Never had a chance to hunt a Moose.  but would have used that load to take them down.  As said before, placement is everything.

7mm Mags have killed many moose. Accuracy is the key. I used a 270 pump for many years. Then, started hunting grizzlies and went to a BAR 338 for both.