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Author Topic: CenturyLink vindictive, unprofessional malfeasance  (Read 913 times)
MarkT
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« on: July 23, 2017, 07:16:20 AM »

I mentioned before here, about my adventures with CenturyLink.  I've been a Bell customer for about 47 years - my entire adult life.  CL is a baby Bell, spinoff in about '84 with the AT&T divestiture as Qwest, renamed 10 yrs ago.

I've subscribed to their phone and DSL internet service bundle for some time.  Out here in our neighborhood all we can get is a DSL connection on POTS lines - aka "twisted pair". (Yes I used to be a software engineer for AT&T - programmer, analyst, and DBA in the 90's.) There are no other providers using landlines out here - other options are Hughes satellite service and some can get connected via the cell phone companies - both bad choices with speeds not quite "broadband" with too-high prices, data limited packages and throttling if you hit the limits. Meaning your speed will be dropped to a tiny fraction of your base speed until the period end. We couldn't connect using the cell connections as "line-of-sight" is required while we are in a cell hole.  What we could get from CL on DSL was a line rated at 3MBPS down, about 500K up.  Actual speed the line would deliver was gross 7MB per the modem's speed report but it would benchmark on speedtest a net of about 2.2. With this "high speed" connection the wife could telecommute saving lots of money and time.  I've worked out of the ranch since '99.  We had to carefully husband our use, so we didn't collide with the bandwidth so sparse.  Our DSL package had no contractual quantity or speed limits. We could use what they delivered.

So I'd monitor the bandwidth and limit my use so our use matched the bandwidth we had.  Meaning, we used what we bought.

CL didn't like that.  They want to sell the product at their profit prices, and want you to not use it much.  Maybe get your email, some shopping online, and generally GTF offline for 23 out of 24 hours. The wife conducts conference call business meetings over the connection using VOIP, for her employer, another telecomm company, competitor of CL. They don't pay for our connection, it's out of my pocket.

So suddenly our line went from 7000kbps to 4096 gross on the front end of the modem. Benchmarked generally around 1200kbps or so.  I got on the horn with TS and got the runaround for quite some time, must have talked to 8 TS associates (I wouldn't call them engineers - pretty sure they have sparse "shingles" based on their knowledge and unprofessionalism). All calls were recorded (by me).  

Two of them said we have been "throttled".  And they told me the speed of the order - which matched the report from my modem 4096d, 640u.  No one else would admit that - pretty sure they let that slip and weren't supposed to.

As a result, I couldn't get the bandwidth I needed to stream content - no more videos or movies even during off hours.  The wife could no longer conduct VOIP meetings.  She had to resume commuting with all the expense and time that takes in what has become horrible traffic with the growth in Denver.  Man was I pissed - CL denying me the service they sold and I paid for at the tune of $115 / mo because I was actually USING it. Recall I asked on this board some months ago, a survey of your speed, provider, price and type of connection - ours was the VERY WORST and reportedly in the bottom 2% nationally.  While CenturyLink claims they were delivering a "superb" connection. What's the word for such lies - denial of the truth like I'm blind or going crazy - "gaslighting".  I googled "throttling" - found it's common at ISP's to punish actual users of their products.  Motivated me to REALLY find a replacement.  CL personnel have this barely concealed attitude that they are the only option so we basically have a Hobson's Choice - suck up and accept it.  They put in fiber optic cables along Hwy 86 just 2 miles from here and cruised right by our somewhat large development of 400 homes.  Anybody who lives even on the wrong side of the road of the cable - tuff crap you're SOL.  They truly have Ernestine's attitude.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOg7IiUnZ5Q

Didn't take me too long.  I found that Rise Broadband can provide true broadband using microwave tech at 25MB down, about 10 up, with no limits, from their tower 1.7 miles away - line of sight, I can see it over the trees.  Benchmarks at 23-24 all the time. I couldn't wait to shut down CL on the ISP use, which I did ASAP.  Now use them for phone only.  Told them to pound sand (figuratively, not actually).

Well now the Baby Bell is acting like a baby.  The phone has become really unreliable. It's down right now, and is about half the time.  Yeah I test it at the terminal box - there's no signal coming in.  Yes they are paid on time. And their online test reports no issues.

Oh yeah.  I called for a tech to fix it yesterday.  The quickest they will get a tech here to fix it is Tues.  I am looking to dump them for my phone service as well now. Unfortunately I have 2 phone lines and one is the business line.  I need 2. However now that I have Rise Broadband their uptime is over 99% - sometimes I need to make the connection when I start my day. They also have VOIP - looking into that to get rid of CL.


So there are two bottom lines.  To contact me, please use my email - valkstuff@horseapple.com.  Prefer that over the PM through the club here, which might go down. And why use their resources.  I have a cell phone but don't publish it's number - if we need to talk I can call you on that line.

Secondly - if you need a phone company - and who doesn't - try to pick a responsible one.  Not this jerkoff unprofessional CenturyLink.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 09:06:57 AM »

Our Century Link service became unbearable over a period of about a year of it degrading.  Then late last spring my email with them would get lost.  The wife would spend an hour of time for them to retrieve it.  After the 3rd time it got lost in 2 months that was it.  I canceled it all. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 09:52:49 AM »

if you need a phone company - and who doesn't

If you're talking about a wired POTS phone company, haven't had one in over 15 years...

For now at least availability of multiple decent high speed Internet options is one of the main things that keeps me from moving further out into the country.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2017, 11:56:11 AM »

Talk about goofy CL. A few months ago I called to cancel service due to rising prices. I finally got what I wanted after two weeks of calling. I guess I had them so confused that when I ordered a new $114 modem they said I would get the charge credited to my account making it free so when they did charge me it would come from the $114 that they credited to me. Any way I still have $114 credit in my account. I have the money but have not been charged.Stupid. So I will leave that money there an wait an see if they ever figure it out. I just know if I use it to pay my monthly bill something will happen.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 12:03:48 PM »

c l THOUGHT erroneously it turns out that they were the Only game in town here in Southern Missouri. Can't recollect the When but cable America went thru here and cabled Willow Springs Missouri.  cooldude My next store Neighbor-nother old gnarly Nam Vet-switched and was quite happy with the results. Gave c l one last chance to straighten up and fly right and the smart azz-female-that wuz the service rep I drew asked me-if we don't who ya gonna git service from? Told her-Cable America. Got real quiet on her end and she sez-let me git my supervisor. No need I say-just tell her/him y'all lost Another customer in Willow Springs Missouri. And shut off my service NOW prior to the next billing period. They-c l-tried to get an extra month from me and after I believe 15 or 16 years with these dumb azz sumbitches they wanted an $800.00 early disconnect fee. Funny part is to me anywho-that $800.00 fee never went to a collection agency. Called their billing office one last time and informed them-I'm on social insecurity-State of Missouri and my Lawyer don't care much for c l so come on ahead. That was bout 3 years ago.  2funny Maybe they'll go after what's left of my "estate"!!  2funny  uglystupid2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 12:59:34 PM »

MarkT - there are all manner of companies that will be glad to do VoIP with you. I personally use Callcentric.com - ironically - I ported my home phone from Centurylink to CallCentric. I wasn't having issues with Centurylink at the time, I just wanted faster Internet (3M down 640K  up  DSL service doesn't hack it anymore).
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2017, 07:25:00 PM »

at the bare mininum you will probably get a nice credit on your next bill if you complain, but still does not solve the problem.

I have NO other choice where I live but TDS phone and internet service.  I have attempted to do Hughesnet but the 50gb data plan I think was not enough if the kids ran Netflix/videos-movies.  If ran out of data plan,  the internet speed was SUPER SLOW like dial up if not worse for the last say 1 week in the monthly bill when ran out of our data plan.   

TDS (telephone data system) needs some competition in our area that is for sure.  Just last year TDS finally upgraded their system to run over 5 megs of service but prior was 1-2 megs, if that, still paying for 5 megs the past FOREVER which was NOT good enough to run Netflix, etc. 
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