I hate Hillary Clinton

[hubcapsc]

The pretense that the KKK and the Nazis were there to protest the removing the statue is pure BS.

Oh, they like all that Confederate stuff, and since everyone wants to give it to
them, that's why people like me are screwed. Don't give them anything!



-Mike

[oldsmokey]

Me too.... Never did like her, never will.

[The emperor has no clothes]

But, I know your frustrations.  I felt Obama was one step away from joining BLM.  He did more to directly encourage that hate group but no one said a word.

At least Trump hasn't invited any hate groups to the White House to lavish praise on them... I still don't get what Trump said that was so bad...

Serk, I've t get to work. I will get back to you on that

I'm at lunch with my IPhone 3. It is almost impossible for me to do quotes and copy&paste with it. I'm not blowing you off. I will explain my position more clearly when I get home.

[phideux]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

I thought it was the Russians?????

[Serk]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

I thought it was the Russians?????

[Willow]

I just have a 5 minute break. But I feel I should respond to your post. 1) hate was probably to strong of word. Closer to Fu:*ing Pissed ! at her. 2) I'm sorry I make you so mad. That was not my intention. I was venting my complete utter displeasure with the both of them. 3) I did not call you or anyone else here scum. I do not feel you are, if I came across that way I apologize. 4) The pretense that the KKK and the Nazis were there to protest the removing the statue is pure BS.

Rob, I appreciate that you usually make an attempt to discuss things with respect.  Your thinking process and mine do not always line up but I value your friendship.

1)  Granted.  Hate is not a good foundation.
2)  I appreciate the lack of intent but you had to be completely absent if this caught you by surprise.
3)  Many think you did.  Any apology that contains an "if" is not a real apology.
4)  I wonder what the KKK and Nazis were there to protest.  I wonder what the BLM and antifa were there for (without a permit).  it seems to me that someone, maybe a lot of someones, were there looking for a fight and it appears at least some of them either found it or created it.  We tend to see BS where we choose to see BS. 

It appear through this extended discussion that a lot of us tend to be forgiving of groups that appear to be on our end of the political spectrum while being condemning of groups on the other end doing essentially the same thing.

[Tx Bohemian]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

I thought it was the Russians?????

Dude, keep up!  That was last week!

And stay tuned, it'll be something totally different next week...

[The emperor has no clothes]

But, I know your frustrations.  I felt Obama was one step away from joining BLM.  He did more to directly encourage that hate group but no one said a word.

At least Trump hasn't invited any hate groups to the White House to lavish praise on them... I still don't get what Trump said that was so bad...

Serk, I've t get to work. I will get back to you on that

I'm at lunch with my IPhone 3. It is almost impossible for me to do quotes and copy&paste with it. I'm not blowing you off. I will explain my position more clearly when I get home.

Ok, here goes. Serk, I hope you know I respect your politics. I am giving this explanation in the hopes that it explains where I am coming from and explains why I think what he did was wrong.

So, here is my explanation of how I feel Trump is giving moral support to the KKK, Neo-Nazis, White Supremists. First one must put his press conference in context with what he said Saturday and what he said Monday. Saturday, after the young woman had been killed by a W.S. Mr. Trump said the violence was bad on many sides. (I paraphrased) In the past he has had no problem placing blame where he thought it was due. With people who criticized him, with suspected terrorists, with the FBI, with his own Cabinet members, with just about anybody and everybody. But he couldn't bring himself to criticize the KKK, Nazi, Alt Right.
  After relentless criticism from many in his own party he relented on Monday. He gave a few words denouncing them. It was pretty clear from his body language and tone he was uncomfortable doing it. Many have described it as a hostage video.
  Fast forward to yesterday's fiasco. He clearly was fired up. Whether it was because of CEO's bailing out of his group or being pissed that he was pushed into those words on Monday, I don't know and can't tell. But you could clearly see from his body language and tone he was fired up. When asked if he put the 2 sides on the same moral plane his response was: "Trump: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there is another side. There was a group on this side — you can call them the left, you've just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group, so you can say what you want but that's the way it is." So in effect he is not only saying that the violence was equal on both sides, but he comes back and emphasizes that the left came after the KKK in a violent attack. That shows a bias to me. Clearly this was a "Unite the Right" rally organized by the W.S. Their groups came from all over  the country to converge on Charlottesville with clubs, bats, guns, shields, helmets, and yes a permit . The left in his mind was wrong because they had no permit. He states the purpose was to oppose the removal of the statue. Which is clearly BS because the statue was not being removed. The matter has been delayed while the courts settle it.
  Mr. Trump later states that he watched the Friday night protests. He said : "Trump: No. No. There were people in that rally — and I looked the night before. If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee." More BS. There were numerous witnesses who described the W.S. with torches and clubs shouting anti Jewish propaganda.                                                                        The “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville was ostensibly about protecting a statue of Robert E. Lee. It was about asserting the legitimacy of “white culture” and white supremacy, and defending the legacy of the Confederacy.
So why did the demonstrators chant anti-Semitic lines like “Jews will not replace us”?

The demonstration was suffused with anti-black racism, but also with anti-Semitism. Marchers displayed swastikas on banners and shouted slogans like “blood and soil,” a phrase drawn from Nazi ideology. “This city is run by Jewish communists and criminal niggers,” one demonstrator told Vice News’ Elspeth Reeve during their march. As Jews prayed at a local synagogue, Congregation Beth Israel, men dressed in fatigues carrying semi-automatic rifles stood across the street, according to the temple’s president. Nazi websites posted a call to burn their building. As a precautionary measure, congregants had removed their Torah scrolls and exited through the back of the building when they were done praying.

And these are the people he described as "some very fine people". It has become clear that the KKK, White Supremists are very happy with the Presidents statements yesterday. So yes, I believe he is giving them aid and comfort.

[Hook#3287]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

Rob, I believe you're wrong in your opinion here, it's because the people of the United States voted him in, legally, that he is OUR President.

I saw the press conference and I feel THE PRESIDENT handled everything correctly.

He called it what it was and blamed the correct players.

I did not see him given aid or comfort to anyone.

He said.

"You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. nobody wants to say it, but I will say it right now."

One side is bad and the other "also" very violent, not much aid and comfort there.

I have seen the media twist it completely around and convolute his words to meet their agenda.

And while all this crap has been dominating the news, has anyone noticed that NK backed down?

Why is that?  Maybe because Kim-boy and the Chinese are finally seeing some leadership here, with some backbone.

[Robert]

Wow I was so much happier without the explanations, but most healing takes one step forward and then two steps back. I must compliment you on some good progress in your dislike of Hillary now if we can just work on the rest it would be great.    Keep up the good work.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I just have a 5 minute break. But I feel I should respond to your post. 1) hate was probably to strong of word. Closer to Fu:*ing Pissed ! at her. 2) I'm sorry I make you so mad. That was not my intention. I was venting my complete utter displeasure with the both of them. 3) I did not call you or anyone else here scum. I do not feel you are, if I came across that way I apologize. 4) The pretense that the KKK and the Nazis were there to protest the removing the statue is pure BS.

Rob, I appreciate that you usually make an attempt to discuss things with respect.  Your thinking process and mine do not always line up but I value your friendship.

1)  Granted.  Hate is not a good foundation.
2)  I appreciate the lack of intent but you had to be completely absent if this caught you by surprise.
3)  Many think you did.  Any apology that contains an "if" is not a real apology.
4)  I wonder what the KKK and Nazis were there to protest.  I wonder what the BLM and antifa were there for (without a permit).  it seems to me that someone, maybe a lot of someones, were there looking for a fight and it appears at least some of them either found it or created it.  We tend to see BS where we choose to see BS. 

It appear through this extended discussion that a lot of us tend to be forgiving of groups that appear to be on our end of the political spectrum while being condemning of groups on the other end doing essentially the same thing.

Carl, I value your friendship very much. And I appreciate you saying you do mine.  
I did understand that my post was going to stir up a lot of emotions. I wrestled with saying anything about it most of the day yesterday. I woke up this morning and thought why should I restrain myself ? In retrospect it likely would have been wiser to. I have tried to put forth my thinking about this in a respectful way. I may or may not have been successful with that. I most definitely was surprised at Mikes post. I know the subject of the Confederacy is dear to his heart. But I in know way thought I called him or anyone else scum. That is why I qualified my apology with an if. I wanted to make it clear that I did not think of him that way. But if I did come across that way I was sorry.

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm sure Mike has been called a lot worse by better people.

[John Schmidt]

Did anyone hear what the spokeswoman for the local police had to say? She stated outright that both factions came to that location ready for a fight as evidenced by how they were dressed and what they carried and it didn't take long for it to come to pass. As for Trump denouncing the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and any other similar group, he has stated emphatically for years that he's against them and has actually used the term "denounce" in his conversation. The police spokeswoman was quick to say that even though one group had a permit, they did in fact come looking for and prepared for a fight....and they got it, in spades. It would be interesting to see what portion of the fracas were being paid to get physical, especially since a good number of those involved came from across the country. Most of those pinheads aren't going to do that unless someone is greasing their palms.

Is it troubling to watch? Absolutely. Do you REALLY think Trump is about to give aid and comfort to the troublemakers such as the KKK and White Supremacists after years of denouncing them. If so, you need to start examining the validity of the news sources to which you're listening.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

Rob, I believe you're wrong in your opinion here, it's because the people of the United States voted him in, legally, that he is OUR President.

I saw the press conference and I feel THE PRESIDENT handled everything correctly.

He called it what it was and blamed the correct players.

I did not see him given aid or comfort to anyone.

He said.

"You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. nobody wants to say it, but I will say it right now."

One side is bad and the other "also" very violent, not much aid and comfort there.

I have seen the media twist it completely around and convolute his words to meet their agenda.

And while all this crap has been dominating the news, has anyone noticed that NK backed down?

Why is that?  Maybe because Kim-boy and the Chinese are finally seeing some leadership here, with some backbone.

Bill, first thank you. I understand he is our President and legally elected. I don't dispute that. What I was trying to convey was that I was pissed at her for being such a flawed candidate to let that happen. As far as his giving comfort to the White Supremists, there has just been too many instances of him letting them slide. I'm not sure if he is a racist or not. I am sure he wants their support. As to North Korea, I never felt they were going to send a missile at Guam to begin with. They have a long history of bluster, but contrary to what many think they are not stupid. Bill, I am okay with you feeling I'm wrong about Trump. Lord knows I've been wrong many times in the past and I'm sure I will in the future. What I'm glad about is that we can have such differences and still be friends and respect each other. That means a lot to me. Thank you.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ? 

I thought it was the Russians?????

No, he got it backwards. Trump recieved.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Wow I was so much happier without the explanations, but most healing takes one step forward and then two steps back. I must compliment you on some good progress in your dislike of Hillary now if we can just work on the rest it would be great.    Keep up the good work.

Well, in fairness. The explanation wasn't meant for you.

[hubcapsc]

I'm sure Mike has been called a lot worse by better people.

I like meathead, he didn't call me anything directly. I won't be surprised
when the peaceful protesters egg my car, though...



-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm sure Mike has been called a lot worse by better people.

I like meathead, he didn't call me anything directly. I won't be surprised
when the peaceful protesters egg my car, though...



-Mike

if I was there, I would guard your car like hawk. (I'm sorry about the indirection)

[Karen]

"I just have a 5 minute break. But I feel I should respond to your post. 1) hate was probably to strong of word. Closer to Fu:*ing Pissed ! at her. 2) I'm sorry I make you so mad. That was not my intention. I was venting my complete utter displeasure with the both of them. 3) I did not call you or anyone else here scum. I do not feel you are, if I came across that way I apologize. 4) The pretense that the KKK and the Nazis were there to protest the removing the statue is pure BS."

Just because the Nazis and the KKK showed up at an event that was defined as a protest against the removal of historical statues does not define the rather large group of patriots who support stopping the destruction of our history. Holding this view makes no one a Nazi or a KKK member. Lumping us all together is just wrong, but this is what the liberals have done and are still doing. While we bicker about how offended we are, history is still being destroyed. By liberal politicians. In Baltimore, for example. No votes. Just removal.

[Rams]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

Ron, I'm sorry. I can't do anymore of this thread. We will just have to disagree. I'm going to have to curb my 4am posts. 

[Hook#3287]

As to North Korea, I never felt they were going to send a missile at Guam to begin with. They have a long history of bluster, but contrary to what many think they are not stupid.

I agree, they talk big and have for years.  But it's what the Chinese did that got my attention.  Now, if they follow thru?  That's the ????

What I'm glad about is that we can have such differences and still be friends and respect each other. That means a lot to me. Thank you.  cooldude

Back atcha!  Political views are not something one should let get in the way of friendship and definitely, mutual respect.  I feel sorry for people that do.

I just wish everyone would give President Trump a chance, but don't see it happening.

One thing we can agree on, I hate Hillary Clinton also, but not because she's a democrat.

[Rams]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

Ron, I'm sorry. I can't do anymore of this thread. We will just have to disagree. I'm going to have to curb my 4am posts. 

Personally, admitting your bias would be easier.

I agreed with you in my first post of this thread.   I'm not always in agreement with the President.   But to go where you went definitely shows your desire for anything anti-Trump.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

Ron, I'm sorry. I can't do anymore of this thread. We will just have to disagree. I'm going to have to curb my 4am posts. 

Personally, admitting your bias would be easier.

I agreed with you in my first post of this thread.   I'm not always in agreement with the President.   But to go where you went definitely shows your desire for anything anti-Trump.

I think it's pretty obvious I lean left.  And yes, at this point Mike Pence is looking pretty good.

[dinosnake]

Just because the Nazis and the KKK showed up at an event that was defined as a protest against the removal of historical statues does not define the rather large group of patriots...

Fantastic!  Great to hear it!

So that means you'll stand, as a patriot, with other REAL PATRIOTS who have ALWAYS wondered WHY we memorialize TRAITORS who fought in a bloody rebellion that has to be put down, at the cost of MILLIONS of lives, who fought for a cause which not only LOST but was and is, SOUNDLY disavowed.

Yes?

who support stopping the destruction of our history. Holding this view makes no one a Nazi or a KKK member. Lumping us all together is just wrong, but this is what the liberals have done and are still doing. While we bicker about how offended we are, history is still being destroyed. By liberal politicians. In Baltimore, for example. No votes. Just removal

[dinosnake]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

Ron, I'm sorry. I can't do anymore of this thread. We will just have to disagree. I'm going to have to curb my 4am posts. 

Personally, admitting your bias would be easier.

I agreed with you in my first post of this thread.   I'm not always in agreement with the President.   But to go where you went definitely shows your desire for anything anti-Trump.

I think it's pretty obvious I lean left. 

As do I.  But, as a person who's sick of the right trying to claim a high ground, such as using "liberal" as an insult, i personally believe that McCain would have probably made a good president and would certainly make a better president than the...person...currently wasting space in said spot.

[3fan4life]

It's because of her that we now have a President that gives aid and comfort to Neo-Nazis and White Supremists. What have we done ?  

Well , I've read President Trump's statements numerous times now and I'm still searching for the aide you're talking about.    Please enlighten me and please be specific.

Ron, I'm sorry. I can't do anymore of this thread. We will just have to disagree. I'm going to have to curb my 4am posts. 

Personally, admitting your bias would be easier.

I agreed with you in my first post of this thread.   I'm not always in agreement with the President.   But to go where you went definitely shows your desire for anything anti-Trump.

I think it's pretty obvious I lean left. 

As do I.  But, as a person who's sick of the right trying to claim a high ground, such as using "liberal" as an insult, i personally believe that McCain would have probably made a good president and would certainly make a better president than the...person...currently wasting space in said spot.

McCain certainly would've made a better president than Obama.

Trump is a better president than McCain would've been.

[Wizzard]

Did nobody watch his press coverage at Trump Tower yesterday ?

I watched as much as I could stand. Which isn't much, let me tell you.

Unfortunately I had yesterday off and saw the entire fiasco. I never thought I would see the day that the KKK and Nazis would be highfiving themselves over the presidents words.  

I read the transcripts, and I'm still trying to find anything said by our president that could remotely, on any planet, be considered giving aid and comfort to Nazis and the KKK...

giving moral equivalence between the KKK and the protestors against that empowers them greatly. Surely you can see that ?

Both of those groups have a lot in common. Both groups fascist, socialist born out of progressivism. The conservatives have no similarities with either group. I think one of the fascist groups prevented the other fascist that were present legally and constitutionally from their freedom of speech. No conservative groups were represented at this event.
The President was merely indicating that both groups are wacked, to which I applaud his indication.  

amen to that. It's what I got out of it. Meathead,, I cannot even begin to see any agreement with your thoughts on this one. You have a right to speak it,, but I  completely disagree. Seems to me  the ones tearing down statues and committing crimes are somewhat supremacists of themselves. I did not think anyone was being defended.

[fudgie]

Hell I got called a racist on fb by a chic cause I have a confederate flag hanging in my garage.  Best night of sleep Ive gotten in awhile. 

[Bighead]

Did nobody watch his press coverage at Trump Tower yesterday ?

I watched as much as I could stand. Which isn't much, let me tell you.

Unfortunately I had yesterday off and saw the entire fiasco. I never thought I would see the day that the KKK and Nazis would be highfiving themselves over the presidents words. 

 
Rob you should move to Colorado where that crap is legal

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Did nobody watch his press coverage at Trump Tower yesterday ?

I watched as much as I could stand. Which isn't much, let me tell you.

Unfortunately I had yesterday off and saw the entire fiasco. I never thought I would see the day that the KKK and Nazis would be highfiving themselves over the presidents words. 

I read the transcripts, and I'm still trying to find anything said by our president that could remotely, on any planet, be considered giving aid and comfort to Nazis and the KKK...

giving moral equivalence between the KKK and the protestors against that empowers them greatly. Surely you can see that ?

The nazis, the kkk, blm and antifa are morally equivalent, they are different sides of the same coin. They are all equally hate groups. They are the same.

[Gavin_Sons]

Y'all should change your names from the Republican Party to the Contortionist Party.  You have become quite adept at contorting your views to fit the mad behavior of the wacko president.

You find yourself condoning and applauding white supremacists marches.  You agree with the racists and you do not want to see statues that were erected in memorial of those who fought to keep fellow human beings as slaves taken down.  You castigate those who oppose government sanctioned fascism, because you feel like you should need a permit to oppose fascism.

Did any of you have parents or grandparents that fought in WWII?  Do you think they would be proud of you defending Nazi marches in Virginia?  You should be ashamed of yourselves!  Yes, in America we have the right to free speech.  That does not mean you should like to hear hate speech and see hate marches.  You should be a part of the louder voice that opposes fascism, instead of joining the voices supporting it.

As I've stated in another thread, to oppose fascism does not make you as bad as a fascist.  If you oppose a rapist, that does not make you as bad a rapist.  It is your duty to oppose those things, but either you have contorted yourself into a position of supporting racist fascists, or it didn't require any contorting at all because you share their beliefs.  There is no one that marches with Nazi flags and Confederate flags, that chants anti-semitic and anti-black slogans that is a "good person".  You cannot march with those people and be a "good person" yourself.  The fact that Trump says there were good people there marching shows where his sympathies lie.  

During the campaign, when he was asked to renounce any support from the KKK, he declined saying "I don't know anything about white supremacy".  Now he calls those that marched carrying Nazi banners "good people, that had a permit by the way".  Are all conservatives racist?  No.  Do you think any white supremacists voted for Hillary, or did they ALL vote Trump.  Are white supremacists applauding and thanking Trump for his support right now?  Yes.

  I agree with bighead

[Oss]

Frye you hit it on the head  Fascism including radical islam (my how that is overshadowed in the lunacy of this week) is evil.  Can you imagine how easy it will be for Google or Amazon or any large internet provider to simply declare this or that group is now a terrorist and deny the speech that is the FOUNDATION of our liberty
That is a logical next step after tearing down monuments relating to our civil war, it is orweilian and also part of the Mao handbook

I would not piss on a KKK demonstrator if he was on fire.  I would neither run him over with my car. But you can bet big daddy (govmt) would take a picture find out where he lives and works etc. (FBI and Homeland do) and responsible journalists should as well

Daddy-O, unlike Meathead, your posts show the arrogance of those who believe only they and their believers can hold the high ground.

I would venture to say everyone on this board has relatives who fought in WWII, and everyone knows of relatives who died in that war

Don't cheapen their memories again

Bighead, hope to see you at my columbus weekend rides before you head off into the ether

[Chrisj CMA]

Daddy-O, unlike Meathead, your posts show the arrogance of those who believe only they and their believers can hold the high ground.

The response from Daddy-O shows yet again how if one watches too much media and believes that garbage they will end up posting ignorance such as this.

It is exactly the motive of the liberal owned and run media to keep es at each other's throats.

We should be smart enough to not be victims of this ploy.

But some enjoy the ride they are being taken on it seems

[3fan4life]

Mr. Trump said the violence was bad on many sides. (I paraphrased) In the past he has had no problem placing blame where he thought it was due.

I believe that he placed the blame EXACTLY where it belonged.

When asked if he put the 2 sides on the same moral plane his response was: "Trump: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there is another side. There was a group on this side — you can call them the left, you've just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group, so you can say what you want but that's the way it is.

The fact is that there was a militant faction of the left present. They did come looking to instigate a fight and they were successful.

Granted it may have not taken much provocation to start the fight.

But they certainly provoked it.

I don't believe that you will find a SINGLE person on this board that supports the views of the Neo-Nazi Supremacists or the KKK.

No-one here is attempting to say that they were RIGHT.

But many of us here are looking for an admission that Anifta and BLM are wrong as well (Which is what Trump said. He was right and I applaud him for it).

So why did the demonstrators chant anti-Semitic lines like “Jews will not replace us”?

The demonstration was suffused with anti-black racism, but also with anti-Semitism. Marchers displayed swastikas on banners and shouted slogans like “blood and soil,” a phrase drawn from Nazi ideology.

I cannot explain why so many profess a profound hatred against the Jewish people.

As a Christian I cannot understand Anti-Semitism.

It makes no sense to me why anyone would feel the need to be an Anti-Semite, much less be proud of it.
 

And these are the people he described as "some very fine people".

There were some fine people there.

There were fine and upstanding people standing on both sides of the argument.

Not everyone who was there was a radical or a racist.

Some of them were good upstanding, hard working people just like you and me that only wanted their voices heard.

The good voices of the good people were drowned out by radical rabble rousers from both sides of the coin.

Your indignation should be with those people, ALL OF THEM.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have MANY posts, as can be seen by the number below my Avatar. I have had some that I regret and wish I could take back. Not because I feel I was wrong, but because they added no useful insight. This might be one of them. My emotions got the better of me and I vented my complete disgust with our political situation.
 But, if anybody truly believes my thoughts and feelings are put out here to troll anybody, they are mistaken. You would be best to put me on your ignore list. Because in all honesty, I can not say that my thoughts and feelings will never bubble up to the surface again. I don't expect anybody to think the way I do, not do I wish to change them. May this thread die .

[98valk]

I have MANY posts, as can be seen by the number below my Avatar. I have had some that I regret and wish I could take back. Not because I feel I was wrong, but because they added no useful insight. This might be one of them. My emotions got the better of me and I vented my complete disgust with our political situation.
 But, if anybody truly believes my thoughts and feelings are put out here to troll anybody, they are mistaken. You would be best to put me on your ignore list. Because in all honesty, I can not say that my thoughts and feelings will never bubble up to the surface again. I don't expect anybody to think the way I do, not do I wish to change them. May this thread die .

may I suggest u start studying the UN and global elitists agendas for one world govt, one of which is the removal of the constitution and this country which stands in their way, and the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelations then u will see the big picture.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have MANY posts, as can be seen by the number below my Avatar. I have had some that I regret and wish I could take back. Not because I feel I was wrong, but because they added no useful insight. This might be one of them. My emotions got the better of me and I vented my complete disgust with our political situation.
 But, if anybody truly believes my thoughts and feelings are put out here to troll anybody, they are mistaken. You would be best to put me on your ignore list. Because in all honesty, I can not say that my thoughts and feelings will never bubble up to the surface again. I don't expect anybody to think the way I do, not do I wish to change them. May this thread die .

may I suggest u start studying the UN and global elitists agendas for one world govt, one of which is the removal of the constitution and this country which stands in their way, and the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelations then u will see the big picture.

[signart]

I'm sure Mike has been called a lot worse by better people.

I like meathead, he didn't call me anything directly. I won't be surprised
when the peaceful protesters egg my car, though...



-Mike

if I was there, I would guard your car like hawk. (I'm sorry about the indirection)

Got to clean it up for the SCV meeting tonight. Meathead, can you come by and stand guard for us?

[3fan4life]

Just because the Nazis and the KKK showed up at an event that was defined as a protest against the removal of historical statues does not define the rather large group of patriots...

Fantastic!  Great to hear it!

So that means you'll stand, as a patriot, with other REAL PATRIOTS who have ALWAYS wondered WHY we memorialize TRAITORS who fought in a bloody rebellion that has to be put down, at the cost of MILLIONS of lives, who fought for a cause which not only LOST but was and is, SOUNDLY disavowed.

Yes?

who support stopping the destruction of our history. Holding this view makes no one a Nazi or a KKK member. Lumping us all together is just wrong, but this is what the liberals have done and are still doing. While we bicker about how offended we are, history is still being destroyed. By liberal politicians. In Baltimore, for example. No votes. Just removal

Really? You are attacking Karen. Really?

That is a new low even for you.