Formally recognize AntiFa as a terrorist organization

[Robert]

Formally recognize AntiFa as a terrorist organization


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Terrorism is defined as “the use of violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims”. This definition is the same definition used to declare ISIS and other groups, as terrorist organizations. AntiFa has earned this title due to its violent actions in multiple cities and their influence in the killings of multiple police officers throughout the United States. It is time for the pentagon to be consistent in its actions – and just as they rightfully declared ISIS a terror group, they must declare AntiFa a terror group – on the grounds of principle, integrity, morality, and safety

[MP]

Absolutely fits. Never happen. PC, you know.

[Serk]

Ironic considering their usual hard left bent, but the state of New Jersey has listed Antifa as such:

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

[DirtyDan]

Wearing masks and tearing down statues.......

Dan

[MP]

Wearing masks and tearing down statues.......

Dan

Carrying clubs with nails on the end.

Dems support these terrorists.

[Daddie O]

Anti Fascism a terrorist group?  You must be out of your mind.  Hitler would be proud of you.

[Valkorado]

Hitler would be proud of you.

More likely that Hitler would have been proud of the 40,000 marchers counter-protesting a Free Speech rally.

[Serk]

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes also into you.”

― Friedrich Nietzsche

Antifa have stared too long into the abyss, and have become the very thing they purported to be fighting against.

Saw a headline about the rally in Boston that sent a shiver down my spine and made me weep for the future. "Thousands rally to protest against free speech."

Let that sink in for a minute.

[RP#62]

Anti Fascism a terrorist group?  You must be out of your mind.  Hitler would be proud of you.

They are anti-fascist in name only.  Their actions are text book fascist.  Hitler would be proud of them.

-RP

[MP]

Anti Fascism a terrorist group?  You must be out of your mind.  Hitler would be proud of you.

They are anti-fascist in name only.  Their actions are text book fascist.  Hitler would be proud of them.

-RP

Absolutely. They want big govt. They just protested free speech! Fascist right down the line e!

And claim those who want LESS govt, are fascist! What a joke.

[MP]

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes also into you.”

― Friedrich Nietzsche

Antifa have stared too long into the abyss, and have become the very thing they purported to be fighting against.

Saw a headline about the rally in Boston that sent a shiver down my spine and made me weep for the future. "Thousands rally to protest against free speech."

Let that sink in for a minute.

And the Dems are backing anti free speech protesters! Amazing. And truly sad.

[Oss]

https://www.facebook.com/attn/videos/1475398805828907/

I support the Weisenthal center as well.

Division (the minus sign) is not so good

Addition (the plus sign) is better

Hope to hear a good address tonite

[Daddie O]

As far a history being destroyed, you will be pleasantly surprised to find out about books.  Lots of history detailed in them, check them out!

Here is a Public Service Announcement for you:

The right to Free Speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.  It doesn't mean anyone else has to listen to your BS, or host you while you share it.  The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.  If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated.  It's just that people think you are an A-hole and they're showing you the door.

Antifa is an anti-fascist organization.  It may seem like a paradox, but the movement is not tolerant of non-tolerance.  I suppose you think the Allied forces of WWII, including our soldiers were terrorists too huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzEBp9EV2pg

[Serk]

First they came for the Nazis, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Nazi.

Then they came for the Deplorables, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Deplorable.

Then they came for the Republicans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Republican.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Jess from VA]

They remind me of these guys.

[RP#62]

As far a history being destroyed, you will be pleasantly surprised to find out about books.  Lots of history detailed in them, check them out!  Always a good idea.

Here is a Public Service Announcement for you:

The right to Free Speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.  It doesn't mean anyone else has to listen to your BS, or host you while you share it.  The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.  If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated.  It's just that people think you are an A-hole and they're showing you the door.  I agree, 100%.  You need to get the word to the other liberals and snowflakes.  The Dixie Chicks can give you a hand.

Antifa is an anti-fascist organization. As I said, in name only.

 It may seem like a paradox, but the movement is not tolerant of non-tolerance. That's true, unfortunately, they're also non-tolerant of other peoples right to voice an opinion different from theirs and they stifle differing opinions through violence.  That makes them a terrorist group.  That's what Hitler's brown shirts did (read it in a book).

 I suppose you think the Allied forces of WWII, including our soldiers were terrorists too huh. No, they were fighting against the forces of fascism and national socialism.

-RP

[MP]

As far a history being destroyed, you will be pleasantly surprised to find out about books.  Lots of history detailed in them, check them out!

Here is a Public Service Announcement for you:

The right to Free Speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.  It doesn't mean anyone else has to listen to your BS, or host you while you share it.  The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.  If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated.  It's just that people think you are an A-hole and they're showing you the door.

Antifa is an anti-fascist organization.  It may seem like a paradox, but the movement is not tolerant of non-tolerance.  I suppose you think the Allied forces of WWII, including our soldiers were terrorists too huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzEBp9EV2pg

True.
But. Antifa is attacking those whose speech they disagree with with clubs, bats, etc. But I realize you cannot see that is wrong.

Ignoring, counter talking, is fine.

Shutting down speech with violence is wrong, and that is what they are doing.

[Robert]

Anifta = Paid rebellion by violence

[baldo]

They remind me of these guys.

Calling BS on some of your pix. The first three claim to be from the recent demonstrations in Boston. Not so much.

1) Burning the Free Speech sign. Happened in Berkeley in March or May... https://tomfernandez28.com/tag/yvette-felarca/

2) Beating the cop on the ground. Happened in Greece in 2009..
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/08/16/us/ap-us-antifa-photo-fact-check.html

3) Dead Cop Sign...Happened in Chicago, date unknown....about halfway down the page
https://www.capitalgrio.com/sites/news/798461-jubilant-protesters-take-to-the-streets-of-baltimore-after-freddie-gray-cops-are-charged-alongside-may-day-demonstrations-across-the-country.html

I didn't check the rest. Just trying to keep it real.

PS. As I've said before, I do not agree with everything they do and how they do it. But let's keep it straight.

[Moonshot_1]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

[The emperor has no clothes]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Seems the phrase "terrorist organization" has morphed recently. 

[baldo]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Did you bother to read my 'disclaimer'?

And it's not nitpicking. There's way too much bullshit streaming around the internet. If you want to discuss, debate, argue about something, do it correctly . Lose the crap.

[Serk]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Seems the phrase "terrorist organization" has morphed recently. 

ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

[MP]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Did you bother to read my 'disclaimer'?

And it's not nitpicking. There's way too much bullshit streaming around the internet. If you want to discuss, debate, argue about something, do it correctly . Lose the crap.

As soon as people of your Ilk stop calling EVERY white person racist. As soon as your "side" quits saying supporting free speech makes one a Nazi and KKK member!

As soon as MSM a knowledge's Antifa is violent.

Deal?

[The emperor has no clothes]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Did you bother to read my 'disclaimer'?

And it's not nitpicking. There's way too much bullshit streaming around the internet. If you want to discuss, debate, argue about something, do it correctly . Lose the crap.

As soon as people of your Ilk stop calling EVERY white person racist. As soon as your "side" quits saying supporting free speech makes one a Nazi and KKK member!

As soon as MSM a knowledge's Antifa is violent.

Deal?

MP, people of his ilk calling all white people racist ? BULLSHIT ! A couple years ago you accused me of that also. You are the one that seems to have an alternate reality.

[G-Man]

Antifa have stared too long into the abyss, and have become the very thing they purported to be fighting against.

I think the entire liberal movement reflects this.  Growing up in NYC I can remember the hippies of the 70's, my high school and college friends of the 70's and 80's, the kids I hung out with in my neighborhood, etc.  The Mantra was never trust anyone over 30, remember?  We/they supported free speech at all costs.   We were all so anti-establishment, so equality, so inclusion, etc.

Now its the opposite,  All the folks I described above, still believe themselves to be liberals, but now support gov't in every aspect of life, and rely on it for their existence.  Shut down opposing views, ridicule those who practice their religion, support decades of policies that keep minorities and the lower class stagnate, vote for known sex predators and corrupt politicians, yet still think they hold the higher moral view.

 

[Serk]

I think the entire liberal movement reflects this.

I agree. It is no longer Republican vs. Democrat, or even Right vs. Left. It's now Liberty vs. Tyranny.

[Tx Bohemian]

With all the protests going on brings up a couple of questions:

--Some group gets a permit to assemble/gather/protest.--

--An opposing group just shows up and causes disruption.--


What happens to the "non-permitted" group?
Is there consequences?  (fines, jail time, etc...)

If not, why does the first group bother to get the permit at all?

[Serk]

[Serk]

It seems a few in the main stream media are starting to wake up to the evils of Antifa at least... slowly...

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

[G-Man]

As far a history being destroyed, you will be pleasantly surprised to find out about books.  Lots of history detailed in them, check them out!

Here is a Public Service Announcement for you:

The right to Free Speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.  It doesn't mean anyone else has to listen to your BS but it does mean that you can still say it, it's up to the other person to not listen to it, or host you while you share it unless you legally obtain a permit to congregate legally in a specified area or parade route.  The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequencesunless you are assembling legally and aren't inciting violence, then that is exactly what it does.  If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated however, this depends on the reason for the banning or cancellation.  If you are legally permitted to assemble, if revoked due to opposition violence, then yes your rights are being violated.  You can be yelled at, but once the line is crossed with physicality, you rights have been violated.  Oh, and if you are legally permitted to be in a certain area or parade route, you are also entitled to be protected by the local law enforcement agency, for a possible fee to your organization of course.  It's just that people think you are an A-hole and they're showing you the door which they have no right to do if you are gathering legally.

Antifa is an anti-fascist organization.  It may seem like a paradox, but the movement is not tolerant of non-tolerance.  I suppose you think the Allied forces of WWII, including our soldiers were terrorists too huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzEBp9EV2pg

Fixed a few of your sentences.

Why are you distorting things so blatantly?  Free speech is a protected right.  Protected against all you've listed above.  

Again, what ever happened to "I may disagree, but I'll fight for your right to say it"?  

Can I show up where you are, push you or your supporters around, yell at you, hit you with a bat, because I don't like what you say?  

[Moonshot_1]

So instead of outright condemning them we are going to nitpick the origin of the pictures of AntiFa condemnable acts?

Brilliant.

They are a terrorist organization. Both in reality and by definition and must be put down.

Did you bother to read my 'disclaimer'?


And it's not nitpicking. There's way too much bullshit streaming around the internet. If you want to discuss, debate, argue about something, do it correctly . Lose the crap.

Not agreeing with what they do and how they do it is a far cry from condemning what they do and how they do it.
So much for your disclaimer.

And it is nitpicking. it is Antifa and ISIS in the photos. The photos show Antifa's tactics and brutality but the big concern is determining where the photo's were taken?

They are taking the offensive and in doing so they are attacking the general public particularly those who chose to simply have a different political opinion.

It is not only crap to not condemn it. It is inexcusable.

[Oss]

I rode a motorcycle to work today

 

and I did not look at the sun

Oss

sitting back at my desk after a full day walking around courts in the south bronx now with my boots and socks off because my feets are on freakin fire

[Jess from VA]

Exactly Moonshot.  Google said those were all Anitfa (and ISIS), pics.  I never said they were all from Boston, nor did I search for Boston-only Pics.

The news on Boston (as opposed to Charlottesville) was pretty slim.  The Boston (permitted) rally was for free speech, not KKK (et. al.), and there were some 25 people with some conservative speakers (none from KKK, et. al.) as part of the permitted rally, but thousands of non-permitted countermarchers (only some of whom were Antifa) scared them off early.  Perhaps with thousands of non-Antifa marching with Anatifa, Antifa was on somewhat better behavior than usual.  But it's pretty clear when the permitted group disappeared early, Antifa felt robbed of it's chance to attack someone, so they took it out on the police (which seems to be part of their normal MO), that and an older lady with an American flag.

Their only real difference from ISIS appears to be that they do not carry or use firearms (or behead people), but it's still early.

If it isn't obvious that there are some people on here I do not converse with (on any subject), there are.  But I am agreeing with you, and appreciate your support.        

[Serk]

Their only real difference from ISIS appears to be that they do not carry or use firearms (or behead people), but it's still early. 

Give 'em time, they'll catch up.

[baldo]

Their only real difference from ISIS appears to be that they do not carry or use firearms (or behead people), but it's still early. 

Give 'em time, they'll catch up.

https://itsgoingdown.org/right-urges-fear-refugees-antifa-fighting-isis/

[Alberta Patriot]

If you want to defeat this evil  ideology you have to start with the far left insurgents masquerading as school administrators and University administrators/professors and work outward from there. The hearts and minds of your children are being poisoned by these bastards. every day.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

[Alberta Patriot]

Youtube/ facebook/Twitter...all left wing corporations that push left wing dogma and suppress Conservatives....all part of the plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po2i432EMkk

[The emperor has no clothes]

If you want to defeat this evil  ideology you have to start with the far left insurgents masquerading as university professors and work outward from there. The hearts and minds of your children are being poinoned by these bastards. every day.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Youtube/ facebook/Twitter...all left wing corporations that push left wing dogma and suppress Conservatives....all part of the plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po2i432EMkk

You appear to have much hate in your heart for everyone that doesn't fit your idea of correct thinking. Very sad indeed.

[Alberta Patriot]

If you want to defeat this evil  ideology you have to start with the far left insurgents masquerading as university professors and work outward from there. The hearts and minds of your children are being poinoned by these bastards. every day.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fntc6ixzJw8

Youtube/ facebook/Twitter...all left wing corporations that push left wing dogma and suppress Conservatives....all part of the plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po2i432EMkk

You appear to have much hate in your heart for everyone that doesn't fit your idea of correct thinking. Very sad indeed.

Anything that does not align with your lefty dogma is hatred??...Please Spare Us All this endless carousel of overused liberal chatter.
You are part of this wholesale narrative that is very much like pulling the cord of a Liberal recording inside demented Chatty Cathy...the same mindless crap repeated over and over.
There is no hate in my heart...I just feel sorry for you.