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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2017, 07:16:26 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
I hate it more when cars do that at red lights. Totally oblivious that once past the line they are not going to activate the magnet. Then if my bike wont then were stuck. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2017, 07:24:48 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
The spousal unit has a bad habit of stopping in the middle of the intersection (While in the cage.) Drives me crazy, I wonder why she even bothers to stop at that point...  |
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2017, 07:43:50 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
The spousal unit has a bad habit of stopping in the middle of the intersection (While in the cage.) Drives me crazy, I wonder why she even bothers to stop at that point... Really? Interesting................ Next time that happens, ask her what happens if she pulls the rip cord late.  On second thought, don't. Some things can be misconstrued..................... |
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2017, 07:49:41 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
The spousal unit has a bad habit of stopping in the middle of the intersection (While in the cage.) Drives me crazy, I wonder why she even bothers to stop at that point... Really? Interesting................ Next time that happens, ask her what happens if she pulls the rip cord late. On second thought, don't. Some things can be misconstrued..................... The AAD (Automatic Activation Device) would blow open the reserve chute, costing her about $1500 to replace the AAD, so she'd never do that... |
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2017, 07:53:07 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
The spousal unit has a bad habit of stopping in the middle of the intersection (While in the cage.) Drives me crazy, I wonder why she even bothers to stop at that point... Really? Interesting................ Next time that happens, ask her what happens if she pulls the rip cord late. On second thought, don't. Some things can be misconstrued..................... The AAD (Automatic Activation Device) would blow open the reserve chute, costing her about $1500 to replace the AAD, so she'd never do that... Yeah, forgot about those. Those weren't around much back when I used to jump out of perfectly good aircraft. Maybe you should get one of those and fit it to the car's brakes. |
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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2017, 09:35:21 AM » |
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Sometimes, sometimes not. Four way stop, always. I motion everyone else to go first. Gripe. Those that stop way in front of the white line. Makes it hard to do a left turn around them. Yes, i know that I don't ride any more.  |
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2017, 10:10:14 AM » |
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Those that stop way in front of the white line. Makes it hard to do a left turn around them.
I've had people pull out so far, I've ridden/turned inside them.
Probably get a ticket for that, but my argument would be I had right of way, and did it for my own safety.
The same guys that pull out way past the line or stop sign have a tendency to not stop, but keep a very slow/inching roll going. I'm not going around them while they're still moving.
I've also started my turn around them, then stopped.... until they stop rolling, completley.
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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2017, 02:26:07 PM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
Late one night, the driver in front of me pulled so far forward at the light he was beyond any triggering device. I did not trigger the light on the bike. Now we were both stuck. I finally made a left turn around him and he followed suit. Indiana now has a law the permits bikers to proceed with caution through a red light after waiting 2 minutes. Ind. Code § 9-21-3-7(b)(3)(D). There is no similar provision for car drivers who pull too far forward. I often do not put my foot down at a rural stop (but I doubt I come to a complete stop without putting my foot down--my balance skills are not that good). |
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2017, 08:28:37 PM » |
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« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2017, 02:27:40 PM » |
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Something else that irritates me. I ride with my best friend (no on VRCC). If he is leading, he comes up to a stop, makes a quick decision and is gone. I am sitting there waiting for a break in the traffic. If I am leading, I make sure that there is plenty of time for both if us to go.
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« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2017, 03:34:22 PM » |
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Something else that irritates me. I ride with my best friend (no on VRCC). If he is leading, he comes up to a stop, makes a quick decision and is gone. I am sitting there waiting for a break in the traffic. If I am leading, I make sure that there is plenty of time for both if us to go.
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« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2017, 04:27:09 PM » |
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Something else that irritates me. I ride with my best friend (no on VRCC). If he is leading, he comes up to a stop, makes a quick decision and is gone. I am sitting there waiting for a break in the traffic. If I am leading, I make sure that there is plenty of time for both if us to go.
Hmmm... when traffic is involved, and you're trying to "get to the other side" it seems like that might be a reason to "ride your own ride" and get safely to that other side where you can regroup. -Mike "sometimes waiting in traffic is like being a sitting duck..."  |
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« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2017, 04:27:50 PM » |
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When I stop , it's 2 feet down flat
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« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2017, 05:41:33 PM » |
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In WI as well as many other states there is a minimum time that a vehicle must remain stopped before proceeding through a stop sign. If you can balance an eight hundred pound motorcycle for three seconds at a stop sign, more power to you. My experience has been that by putting a foot down helps eliminate the LEO's reason for pulling you. In the hinterlands, I seldom put feet down but I also don't try to hold a stop for the state minimum of 3 seconds.
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« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2017, 07:22:06 PM » |
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In WI as well as many other states there is a minimum time that a vehicle must remain stopped before proceeding through a stop sign. ...
I did a thorough search of Wisconsin law regarding stop signs and found no such detail. Are you sure? |
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« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2017, 09:27:11 PM » |
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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2017, 01:17:17 AM » |
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Never when on the trike. Never with Sindee on the Harley (at 6' tall she has built-in outriggers) But about half the time riding solo on two wheels. I have to use my right leg as the left one doesn't work well but I lean toward the right anyway!  Most generally, I avoid stop signs and traffic lights as a rule. There's not too many where I live or ride anyway. |
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« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2017, 05:07:59 AM » |
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I did a thorough search of Wisconsin law regarding stop signs and found no such detail. Are you sure? [/quote] Is it really that important to waste time looking ? [/quote] Depends on how you want to waste your time. You and I wasted our time responding to this thread and contributed nothing. We've wasted other peoples time who looked thinking we may have contributed something and were disappointed.  |
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I did a thorough search of Wisconsin law regarding stop signs and found no such detail. Are you sure? [/quote] Is it really that important to waste time looking ? [/quote] Is it really that important to waste time replying with that question? See this works in all kinds of ways. What do you care how Willow uses his time? Jus as I don't care how you use your time. I have also never heard of a 3 second rule. Have a guy at work that is from Wisconsin and he has never heard of it either. |
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« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2017, 05:55:09 AM » |
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346.46 Vehicles to stop at stop signs and school crossings.(1) Except when directed to proceed by a traffic officer or traffic control signal, every operator of a vehicle approaching an official stop sign at an intersection shall cause such vehicle to stop before entering the intersection and shall yield the right-of-way to other vehicles which have entered or are approaching the intersection upon a highway which is not controlled by an official stop sign or traffic signal.(2) Stops required by sub. (1) shall be made in the following manner:(a) If there is a clearly marked stop line, the operator shall stop the vehicle immediately before crossing such line.(b) If there is no clearly marked stop line, the operator shall stop the vehicle immediately before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection.(c) If there is neither a clearly marked stop line nor a marked or unmarked crosswalk at the intersection or if the operator cannot efficiently observe traffic on the intersecting roadway from the stop made at the stop line or crosswalk, the operator shall, before entering the intersection, stop the vehicle at such point as will enable the operator to efficiently observe the traffic on the intersecting roadway.(2m) Every operator of a motor vehicle approaching a school crossing which is controlled by an adult school crossing guard appointed under s. 120.13 (31)or 349.215 shall follow the directions of the school crossing guard. If directed by the school crossing guard to stop, the operator shall stop the vehicle not less than 10 feet nor more than 30 feet from the school crossing and shall remain stopped until the school crossing guard directs the operator to proceed.(3) Every operator of a vehicle approaching an official stop sign at a railroad crossing shall, before proceeding on or over such crossing, stop the vehicle immediately before crossing a clearly marked stop line. If there is no clearly marked stop line, the operator shall stop the vehicle not less than 15 nor more than 50 feet from the nearest rail.(4) (a) Every operator of a vehicle approaching an official stop sign or official temporary stop sign erected mid-block on or in the roadway by local authorities under s. 349.07 (6) shall cause such vehicle to stop not less than 10 nor more than 30 feet from such official sign except when directed to proceed by a traffic officer.(b) As used in this subsection “mid-block" has the meaning given it in s. 346.33 (3).History: 1977 c. 116 s. 16; 1979 c. 344, 1985 a. 29 s. 3202 (43); 1987 a. 25; 1989 a. 359; 1991 a. 316; 2009 a. 65.A violation of sub. (1) constitutes negligence per se, but a violation may be excused through the application of the emergency doctrine, which provides that a person faced with an emergency that the person did not create is not negligent for failing to avoid the threatened disaster if compelled to act instantly. Totsky v. Riteway Bus Service, Inc. 2000 WI 29, 233 Wis. 2d 371, 607 N.W.2d 637, 97-0530.
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2017, 08:20:10 AM » |
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My answer is , I stop and do not put a foot down if the situation is right.
Illinois law states , the tire must stop turning. You do not have to stop for a certain time. Also , stop at sign or white line , and then if needed , roll forward to check for traffic. If you are clear and safe , procedee thru. I had re learned this in traffic school. The instructor was open to questions , not arguments. I picked up a lot of info.
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2017, 03:17:19 PM » |
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I did a thorough search of Wisconsin law regarding stop signs and found no such detail. Are you sure?
I was before a Municipal Judge (Milwaukee) when I was informed that all LEO's in WI are told that if the perp does not stop for three seconds, write the ticket. That does not make it a law, but I have taken it for granted the 3 second rule was a law. I did beat the speeding ticket that accompanied the stop sign ticket. |
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2017, 04:58:32 PM » |
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Why do you bother to respond to my post , are you not too bright ? It appears so Are you the type that likes to start trouble ? Appears so
I did a thorough search of Wisconsin law regarding stop signs and found no such detail. Are you sure? Is it really that important to waste time looking ? [/quote] Is it really that important to waste time replying with that question? See this works in all kinds of ways. What do you care how Willow uses his time? Jus as I don't care how you use your time. I have also never heard of a 3 second rule. Have a guy at work that is from Wisconsin and he has never heard of it either. [/quote] |
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2017, 06:10:17 PM » |
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Never thought about it much but paid attention today. If stopped over 5 seconds, 2 feet down. Under 5 seconds, 1 foot down. Never zero feet.
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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2017, 05:12:21 AM » |
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2017, 06:53:18 AM » |
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What pisses me off is the people that stop a car length in front of the white line. Yes we have a lot of stop signs with white line around here.
or a car length before the next car in front or at a stop light. Have been tempted to pull around in front of them to show them that 20 feet stopping BEHIND where they should is not right either. |
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