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Started by Hooter, Sun 08, Oct 2017, 16:15:02

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Hooter

Bikes running great, no issues. Cousin came over today and wanted to hear it run, so, put the key in, turned the gas on, choke, hit the starter and nothing. No lights, no click, nothing. Deader than Oswald. So started with the battery,  fully charged. Just took the side cover of and going to check fuses. Next, the ground. Rode the bike yesterday no problem.  So now the search begins. Process of elimination.

Oh, kill switch is in the right position.  Gonna ck the starter switch to.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

cookiedough

do you have headlights when starting with the battery?  I battery can still test good and be bad, try another battery if you have one available. 

Hooter

#2
Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no.

No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet.

UPDATE;
Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock.  :cooldude: Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Hooter on Sun 08, Oct 2017, 17:40:08
Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no.

No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet.

UPDATE;
Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock.  :cooldude: Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow.
Got a car you can jump from ?

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Quote from: meathead on Sun 08, Oct 2017, 18:33:26
Quote from: Hooter on Sun 08, Oct 2017, 17:40:08
Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no.

No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet.

UPDATE;
Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock.  :cooldude: Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow.
Got a car you can jump from ?

At what speed ?  ;D

Hooter

I will tomorrow Meathead.  Question : can a relay go bad in these things?
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Hooter on Sun 08, Oct 2017, 20:26:41
I will tomorrow Meathead.  Question : can a relay go bad in these things?
Yes, they can. But more likely not. My money would be on dead battery, dirty starter switch, corroded starter relay. In that order.

mrgeoff

I had the same situation once...It is the battery...Replace and invite your cousin back over...Ride Safe...!!!
mrgeoff/SANDMAN

RonW

#8
Quote from: Hooter on Sun 08, Oct 2017, 20:26:41
Question : can a relay go bad in these things?

To test the relay, bridge the two copper post on the starter relay. This connects the positive terminal on the battery to the starter motor, the same thing that's *suppose* to happen internally when you press the start button.
2000 Valkyrie Tourer

Hooter

#9
Everything is clean at the relay and in that area. Nothing melted either like on my first Valk. I serviced the start switch beginning of summer and no problem till now. I'll pull my pickup down there when it gets daylight and try a jump. (Truck off of course ) if she fires then off to the battery store. If not, then the switch will come apart again. I will let you guys know what the gig is, or isn't some time this morning.

Update :  Went out this morning and hooked my pickup to the bike. It turned over, but didn't start. That battery is junk, so off I go this morning to the battery store. Nuther  $130 spent but at least it isn't hydro locked!  Thanks for the suggestions guys.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

cookiedough

not sure you use amazon.com, but Yuasa is a decent battery should last 3-6 years and find their prices are reasonable.

https://www.amazon.com/YUASA-YTX14-BS-Maintenance-Free-Battery/dp/B000WJX4BQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1507558979&sr=8-4&keywords=honda+valkyrie+battery

under 70 bucks and with amazon prime is delivered in just 2-3 days usually. 

Hooter

Thanks Cookie...friend of mine works at NAPA. Got me one for cost, $88.00 bones and have it this afternoon.  Thanks again guys!
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

#12
Look under right side cover ( rear brake side ) very possible you have some " melt " around the fuse . Unhook battery and clean everything up under the cover . Corrosion on the electrical connections will definitely cause this I've seen it on several Valkyries mine being one . Mine melted the fuse I had to replace the wiring harness to the 30amp fuse. I did have a picture but can't find it right now.


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

Hooter

#13
First place I went Joe. All is clean, nothing melted like on my first Valk. Had battery tested by my friend at NAPA, came up junk. Should be here in a little  bit. Want to go for a ride, it's a nice day. Oh, the battery I took out was 6 yrs old.

UPDATE:
My friend at NAPA called and the battery was in. Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
 
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Hooter on Mon 09, Oct 2017, 12:41:05
First place I went Joe. All is clean, nothing melted like on my first Valk. Had battery tested by my friend at NAPA, came up junk. Should be here in a litter bit. Want to go for a ride, it's a nice day. Oh, the battery I took out was 6 yrs old.

UPDATE:
My frieND at NAPA called and the battery was in. Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
   
:cooldude: 6 years is longer than I ever get.

Gryphon Rider

Quote from: Hooter on Mon 09, Oct 2017, 12:41:05
Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable?


The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 10:46:32
Quote from: Hooter on Mon 09, Oct 2017, 12:41:05
Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable?


Canadian Firefighters don't seem nearly as happy as American firefighters.  ;)

Paladin528

check the kill switch contacts.  mine were bad and I had the same symptoms.  cleaned the contacts and never had an issue since.

Roadog

  Batteries can go bad almost instantly.  The plates inside can fracture and short out the battery in a nano second.  A battery that is working fine can 'die' in an instant .  Yes 6 years is a good life for a battery.  The original battery in my Valk lasted 9 years.  I bought the bike new.  I never let it go down to a  discharge state. Vibration is usually the reason for the plates fracturing , Valks don't vibrate . 3-4 years is a  good life for the batteries in my inline four Suzuki's and Kawasaki's.  They vibrate a lot more than that flat six.

Ride safe
Roadog

Hooter

The bike always started easily.  But when I put the new battery in I realized how slow it had actually spun over for quite a while.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

bill-jr

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 10:46:32
Quote from: Hooter on Mon 09, Oct 2017, 12:41:05
Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable?



Which one is you gryphon rider?? ??
Ever danced with the devil In the pale moon light ?
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