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chrome alt. cover

Started by turtle254, Tue 10, Oct 2017, 12:34:52

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turtle254

Anybody found a replacement cover for the plastic chromed alternator cover,
maybe steel?

Bagger John - #3785

If the peeling chrome can be completely removed, you might contact a shop which specializes in vacuum flash plating and have them redo it.

I've got one that's bubbling a bit. It's going to get stripped and painted gloss black, methinks.

Houdini

Quote from: Bagger John - #3785 on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 13:34:09
I've got one that's bubbling a bit. It's going to get stripped and painted gloss black, methinks.

How do you strip chrome off of plastic?  I tried on a peeling cover once and ended up ruining it.
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bentwrench

I found a couple for sale two years ago at this placehttps://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/
It's in the UK but shipping was pretty reasonable.

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: bentwrench on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 16:38:45
I found a couple for sale two years ago at this placehttps://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/
It's in the UK but shipping was pretty reasonable.
The Euro connection dried up. They caught on to us Yanks.

Jonesz

Wondering why an aftermarket supplier hasn't picked up on this. A buddy just ordered and installed a kuryakyn transmission cover. His alt cover looked like a "flame" chrome cover (due to heat bubbles on the old one) but he would really like to install a new chrome cover for the alternator to match the new tranny covers. Maybe Honda should have been encouraged to meet quality standards. Too bad they dropped the ball.

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Jonesz on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 19:33:03
Wondering why an aftermarket supplier hasn't picked up on this. A buddy just ordered and installed a kuryakyn transmission cover. His alt cover looked like a "flame" chrome cover (due to heat bubbles on the old one) but he would really like to install a new chrome cover for the alternator to match the new tranny covers. Maybe Honda should have been encouraged to meet quality standards. Too bad they dropped the ball.
Just not a big enough market I suspect. I don't think the quality of the chromed plastic is the issue. I think it just absorbs too much heat and then cools off. Expand and contract finally gets them.

Bighead

Quote from: bentwrench on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 16:38:45
I found a couple for sale two years ago at this placehttps://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/
It's in the UK but shipping was pretty reasonable.
Yeah I bought 8 of them For $17.50 when that deal was in place and sold one and paid for the other seven. And sold one more but still have three new ones  :roll: you can get them from. Honda at around $250 a piece :o
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Hooter

Quote from: Houdini on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 16:23:11
Quote from: Bagger John - #3785 on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 13:34:09
I've got one that's bubbling a bit. It's going to get stripped and painted gloss black, methinks.

How do you strip chrome off of plastic?  I tried on a peeling cover once and ended up ruining it.

A while back someone here had a formula for stripping chrome off of plastic.
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Jruby38

Cheep Honda plastic chrome. Not only the alt cover, but the rear brake cover , and the turn signals will wrinkle.  If it was made right they would be chrome plated steel like the valve covers. I have some HD chrome on for 18 years and it still looks like new.

mark81

Quote from: Hooter on Wed 11, Oct 2017, 06:25:19
Quote from: Houdini on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 16:23:11
Quote from: Bagger John - #3785 on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 13:34:09
I've got one that's bubbling a bit. It's going to get stripped and painted gloss black, methinks.

How do you strip chrome off of plastic?  I tried on a peeling cover once and ended up ruining it.

A while back someone here had a formula for stripping chrome off of plastic.

Heat gun then ice water
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The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Jruby38 on Wed 11, Oct 2017, 15:40:39
Cheep Honda plastic chrome. Not only the alt cover, but the rear brake cover , and the turn signals will wrinkle.  If it was made right they would be chrome plated steel like the valve covers. I have some HD chrome on for 18 years and it still looks like new.
Chrome nice and shiny on a Harley that died 15 years ago ? I'll go ahead and stick with my cheap Honda plastic on a bike that just keeps going.  :coolsmiley:

Gideon

Quote from: meathead on Wed 11, Oct 2017, 21:42:10
Quote from: Jruby38 on Wed 11, Oct 2017, 15:40:39
Cheep Honda plastic chrome. Not only the alt cover, but the rear brake cover , and the turn signals will wrinkle.  If it was made right they would be chrome plated steel like the valve covers. I have some HD chrome on for 18 years and it still looks like new.
Chrome nice and shiny on a Harley that died 15 years ago ? I'll go ahead and stick with my cheap Honda plastic on a bike that just keeps going.  :coolsmiley:

Good answer :cooldude:
My buddy just paid $400 dollars for his first oil change at the HD Dealer where purchased his new "Fat Boy". I guess they didn't use Rotella T6  :)
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Hooter

Most dealers want the bike back for first service, not just Harley.  It isn't necessary.  My dealer told me to document my first 2 services with all information and it would not void the warranty.  That was on new Yamaha's and a couple of ""HARLEY'S"".
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

Gideon

Quote from: Hooter on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 07:12:38
Most dealers want the bike back for first service, not just Harley.  It isn't necessary.  My dealer told me to document my first 2 services with all information and it would not void the warranty.  That was on new Yamaha's and a couple of ""HARLEY'S"".

$400 seems a little excessive to me for your first oil change.
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk, and not faint.  Isaiah 40:31

MarkT

Quote from: meathead on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 21:16:44
Quote from: Jonesz on Tue 10, Oct 2017, 19:33:03
Wondering why an aftermarket supplier hasn't picked up on this. A buddy just ordered and installed a kuryakyn transmission cover. His alt cover looked like a "flame" chrome cover (due to heat bubbles on the old one) but he would really like to install a new chrome cover for the alternator to match the new tranny covers. Maybe Honda should have been encouraged to meet quality standards. Too bad they dropped the ball.
Just not a big enough market I suspect. I don't think the quality of the chromed plastic is the issue. I think it just absorbs too much heat and then cools off. Expand and contract finally gets them.

Yeah it's just too hot right there.  It's better for the alternator to get more cooling air anyway so I removed the (wrinkled) cover on Jade.  Doesn't look too bad I think.  On Deerslayer I have a Compufire which is too big for the cover anyway. And same thing, more air circulating on it is a good thing.  Take the cover off and clean the alternator if it needs it and go ride.

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Firefighter

My alternator cover wrinkled and I purchased a new one years ago when they were cheaper. Went to the hardware store and found a shinny insulation in a roll. Cut a piece and glued inside the cover and it has never wrinkled so far.
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pocket aces

Anyone try that heat gun and ice water trick that mark81 suggested?

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Quote from: Firefighter on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 11:08:36
My alternator cover wrinkled and I purchased a new one years ago when they were cheaper. Went to the hardware store and found a shinny insulation in a roll. Cut a piece and glued inside the cover and it has never wrinkled so far.
I got some kind of heat wrap at Autozone a couple years back for my next one. Glad to hear yours is working. How many miles do you have on it ?

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: pocket aces on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 11:18:27
Anyone try that heat gun and ice water trick that mark81 suggested?
I haven't. But I'm sure going to give it a try on the next one.  :cooldude:

Firefighter

About 60,000 miles so far.
2000 Valkyrie Interstate, Black/Red
2006 Honda Sabre 1100
2013 Honda Spirit 750
2002 Honda Rebel 250
1978 Honda 750

signart

Quote from: pocket aces on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 11:18:27
Anyone try that heat gun and ice water trick that mark81 suggested?

I have experimented with it. Some areas released the chrome easily. Other areas took several applications of the  hot/cold treatment to release the chrome. Then, some areas of the cover where the expansion and contraction did not take place, the chrome would not release at all. I experimented by applying more and more heat and emersion on these areas, especially corners, until I distorted the cover and the chrome stubbornly would not release at all. Worked great on the biggest part of the cover.

bill-jr

Gig was or is making alt covers on a 3d printer
then i think you just paint them or what ever you like
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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: signart on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 22:02:43
Quote from: pocket aces on Thu 12, Oct 2017, 11:18:27
Anyone try that heat gun and ice water trick that mark81 suggested?

I have experimented with it. Some areas released the chrome easily. Other areas took several applications of the  hot/cold treatment to release the chrome. Then, some areas of the cover where the expansion and contraction did not take place, the chrome would not release at all. I experimented by applying more and more heat and emersion on these areas, especially corners, until I distorted the cover and the chrome stubbornly would not release at all. Worked great on the biggest part of the cover.
I have heard that bleach works to get the chrome off plastic

turtle254

Quote from: bill-jr on Fri 13, Oct 2017, 18:08:33
Gig was or is making alt covers on a 3d printer
then i think you just paint them or what ever you like

If Gig is still making them, I'll take one !
Any one know?