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hubcapsc
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« on: October 29, 2017, 02:24:55 PM »


I've been fiddling with posting ride videos to youtube... I don't care
much about watching a bunch of ride videos, so I've never spent
much time trying to post them. Perhaps though, 30 seconds of
some interesting thing or other in a ride report might be useful.

There's an art to posting usable video to youtube, and much of it
still escapes me  Smiley ...

You need to worry about codecs and bitrates and all kinds of hoo-ha
that's about as interesting as moss on a rock. They tell you what you
need, but not how to do it (google owns youtube):

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171

Some people don't worry about the hard stuff, like making a
video that is both small and acceptable quality. The videos
of the new goldwing at the Honda powersports site are
like 50 megabytes... they look great if you have a large
Internet connection, but I have the wimpiest of DSL connections
here at home. I looked at them at work, but I sure wouldn't
look at them here.

On the other hand, a Jay Leno's garage episode on youtube is
about 500 megabytes! But it plays OK because when you divide
how big it is by how long it is you can see that the bitrate is
still low enough that it can sort of stay ahead of itself while
playing even on a slow connection...

My gopro takes 30 frames a second, each frame pretty good
quality. Here's a link to 25 seconds or so of us on 28's newly
paved curves last weekend. About all I did to it to get it
smallish was change it to 12 frames per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbHuDduSvKQ

After you upload your video to youtube, they process it
down to a bunch of different resolutions and when someone
looks at a video, youtube shows them the video at whichever
resolution is suited for their Internet connection... good resolution
(the gopro gave me 1080p, so that's the max you could get out of
my video) for people with fast Internet, and like 240p for people with
crappy Internet connections like mine.

When I look (I guess when anyone looks) there's a gearwheel
at the bottom of a youtube video, and when you click on it you
can see what the quality setting is. For me it seems to always
be "auto", that's the setting that allows youtube to set (and
reset) the resolution you're getting as the video plays. You
can also click on whichever resolution you'd like, but of course
if I click on a high resolution (like 1080p) I have to wait forever
for the video to load.

Who here posts videos? Who knows all the tricks? There's some
videos I can look at that seem to be great quality even at low
resolution... I think I have a lot to learn  Wink

-Mike
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 03:01:44 PM »

That's pretty cool.   cooldude

I realize the sound is secondary, and affected by wind.

But it kind of sounds like a Model T.   Grin
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 07:26:27 PM »

I let youtube determine how my video should be uploaded and then shown to the world.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 03:20:00 AM »

I let youtube determine how my video should be uploaded and then shown to the world.

Do you upload raw video from your camera? My camera produces
video that is pretty close to what youtube wants.

My gopro makes video in 12 minute blobs... that is, if I turn on the
camera and leave it going until the sd card fills up, when I look
on the card, it will all be there, but in 12 minute blobs of about
2.25 gigabytes each.

It would take me a million years to upload 12 minutes of video,
and then it wouldn't be anything anyone would want to watch...
you and that crowd you ride with can probably roll hard enough
to make an interesting 12 minute video  coolsmiley ...

So, I use software to edit out a few seconds here or there. It is
easy (for me) to end up with an edited snippet that is in
a format that is non-optimal for youtube...

Editing the video so that it is compressed both in time
and data-size and still have decent quality and be
close to the format youtube wants is what seems
hard to me...

-Mike
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 06:28:01 AM »


For example...

I just watched this little feller's video about the new goldwing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2vnDxIjBxA

I used my downloader program to download his video and compare
its attributes to what comes out of my camera...

Goldwing video:
File size                                : 76.4 MiB
Duration                                 : 12 min 2 s
Overall bit rate                         : 887 kb/s
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.027

Raw footage from my camera:
File size                                : 2.10 GiB
Duration                                 : 12 min 0 s
Overall bit rate                         : 25.0 Mb/s
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.402

My camera (most cameras?) produce bloated video, it is possible to
produce almost-as-good video that is not nearly so bloated. I can stream
the whole Goldwing video over my slow connection with no buffering and
it is crystal clear. I'm sure there's a difference between an "action shot"
(motorcycle moving down a twisty road with grass and trees and stuff
flashing by) and a "static" video of a guy on a gray background... but still...

-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2017, 06:42:50 AM »

I upload directly from my phone or else I USB my camera to laptop and upload to Youtube.

From phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5yna8cz4BE

From camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2YN6wRrkw&t=2s
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 07:48:24 AM »


This one plays well for me without buffering, but is low quality:
From phone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5yna8cz4BE
File size                                : 1.54 MiB
Duration                                 : 19 s 668 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 658 kb/s
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.065

This one flows along OK too, but is really bad quality - youtube
shows it to me at 144p and 480p is the best they have... I guess
your camera is either a 5 or 8 megapixel camera, or you have it
configured for low resolution to save space...?
From camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2YN6wRrkw&t=2s
File size                                : 79.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 10 min 0 s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 115 kb/s
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.110

This attribute (from my 28 video) pretty much says it all:
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.181

The smaller you can get this number, the better your video
will be for people with slow Internet. Getting this number
small without ruining the quality is possible, and I hope to
figure out how to do it.

-Mike
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