WOW DNC chair admits Clinton rigged and stole Dem party from Sanders

[Oss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYmt1Qn9_Y

The fallout will be widespread and how about Bernie?  Why did he go along what was the deal - that he would not be killed?


Sad day for american political system and for the justice department and the DNC

What is looking for dirt compared to RIGGING an election entirely?

I am a Democrat and I suspected this at the time, it was one of the things that pushed me over to click Trump as the alternative along with Benghazi and the clinton foundation coverup and the email coverup

[The emperor has no clothes]

What makes you feel Sanders went along with it ? I sure don't see it that way. He and his campaign were trying to draw attention to the DNC being in her pocket for months during the primaries. Had it been a level playing ground he might have beat her.

[czuch]

Had it been a level playing ground, he would have.
Handily I believe.

[¿spoom]

yet Comey's buddy Mueller still gets to do "research"? Funny stuff unless you remember it's how we got to choose a leader. I'm surprised that people are surprised, since this is as well known as say, a sexual predator studio head. Until people accept that the various news sources no longer report, but instead advocate, people will keep being surprised. We saw how the IRS continued to be the Dems attack dog, in the great tradition of JFK, but there wasn't any outrage, no nightly (yearly) attacks from late night talk show hosts, or Comedy Central, etc. Personally, I suspect the Republicans are not only half the swamp, but were neutered by IRS & FBI info dug up and held over them to sit on their hands. Hard for me to believe there's any other way we could have skipped jailing the Obama/Clinton team to go right after Trump's.

[dinosnake]

Benghazi was a screwup.  No more, no less.  Get over it.

Sadly, internal party politics is not a crime.  If it were, every single politician would be in jail INCLUDING the GOP (already forgot the political pressure put on during the convention, did we?).  The internal politics of the parties have always been there, look at Tweed.  The people still get to vote, but the vote is only for a selection of choices pre-made for you.

You want choice?  Get popular voting passed.  As we continue to support the current system, we get what has been occurring for well over a century.

[Oss]

I know darn well that you were watching after the primary Rob so you know he supported Hillary in the general election.  

If someone stole something of mine, I would not go gracefully and stump for her

Like how Hillary made her deal with Obama in return for Secty of State and A clear shot to the general election.

Dino, if you can write a proposal that would enable a 3rd party to become relevant I would love to hear it as would many millions of others

[¿spoom]

3rd parties have always been relevant, they cause the party least like themselves to lose, by splitting the vote for the one most like themselves. Bernie was the 3rd party candidate 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I know darn well that you were watching after the primary Rob so you know he supported Hillary in the general election.  

If someone stole something of mine, I would not go gracefully and stump for her

Like how Hillary made her deal with Obama in return for Secty of State and A clear shot to the general election.

Dino, if you can write a proposal that would enable a 3rd party to become relevant I would love to hear it as would many millions of others

Well, that's a little different. Once he was beat he had a choice much like the rest of us. Pick the lesser of two evils. Also, I wouldn't say he was out there stumping hard for her. He could have done much more but chose not to.

[Pappy!]

I understand he got himself a brand new (to him) airplane right around the time he "gracefully" bowed out. Secondhand information on the timing of it but I would not put it past them.

[G-Man]

So was Trump, a third partier.  He's actually a NY democrap that stole the Republican nomination.

During the campaign, he was fine with most social issues.  Other than the wall, which is an economic issue as well, he said he didn't care which bathroom Bruce used in Trump Tower.

Trump was the one who MADE the other candidates talk about these issues.  The bad trade deals, the bad foreign policy deals, etc.

But he won because he played the game perfectly.

In my opinion, THANK GOD, for the electoral college and for the wisdom and brilliance Trump demonstrated in navigating within the rules.  Had he not won because of the EC, I can't imagine where we'd be headed.  Congress is useless even when they have the majority.  Last time they had the majority, they phucked up healthcare, and this majority is cesspool of do nothings.  The President gets things done with his pen now,  The last guy showed us how and this guy learns fast.  Imagine Clinton waving that pen around??????????????

[Robert]

So all the Democrat's called for an investigation into Russia influencing the election and enough turmoil was started to appoint a special prosecutor that is running wild and should be dismissed.

Since its a proven fact that the Russian collusion and Trump was nothing there.

But we have the ones that were screaming about Trump strangely silent about Hillary rigging the election, the Russian collusion from Hillary, the selling of uranium to Russia and 140 million going to Hillary the collapse of the Clinton foundation when Hillary was not elected. James Comey lying and taking the decision before an investigation into Hillary was completed and Bill meeting with Lynch on the Tarmac at the Height of the email scam. This says nothing about the IRS targeting under Obama, Benghazi or so many more corruption issues.

Bernie gave up the ghost because he thought he had no choice and then when he realized he did it was to late.

So why if the Democrat's and the people here that were so against Trump for alleged Russia violations so silent about all this garbage that is going on now? Why are they not as vocal about the Hillary debacle? I find that hypocrisy at its highest level.

You know what is really telling with all this, she couldn't win.
 

[Firefighter]

He should have been suspicious when Hillary won 6 or 7 coin tosses in a row.

[The emperor has no clothes]

So why if the Democrat's and the people here that were so against Trump for alleged Russia violations so silent about all this garbage that is going on now? Why are they not as vocal about the Hillary debacle? I find that hypocrisy at its highest level.


 

I can only speak for myself.
1) most here don't want to hear political discussions all the time.
2) most here don't want to hear the opposing viewpoint.
3) many here have called for more harmonious discussions on the board.
4) many here get tired of the bullshit.
5) I suspect you aren't really interested in a discussion of the facts. You have already made up your mind that Clinton has broken numerous laws and Trump has broken none.
6) it gets tiresome to correct lies and untruths only to be told you are harming the club.

[DirtyDan]

“ I can speak only for myself  “

Most here

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Dan

[The emperor has no clothes]

“ I can speak only for myself  “

Most here

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Dan

I should have been more specific in my first sentence. I can only speak for myself why "people who were so against Trump remain silent about this garbage".

[Gavin_Sons]

Because they are embarrassed.  They were wrong all along about her and Trump. Remember the liberals telling us to very use to saying madam president?

[Robert]

So why if the Democrat's and the people here that were so against Trump for alleged Russia violations so silent about all this garbage that is going on now? Why are they not as vocal about the Hillary debacle? I find that hypocrisy at its highest level.


 

I can only speak for myself.
1) most here don't want to hear political discussions all the time.
2) most here don't want to hear the opposing viewpoint.
3) many here have called for more harmonious discussions on the board.
4) many here get tired of the bullshit.
5) I suspect you aren't really interested in a discussion of the facts. You have already made up your mind that Clinton has broken numerous laws and Trump has broken none.
6) it gets tiresome to correct lies and untruths only to be told you are harming the club.

I have made the decision that she is more than guilty, to me she is the great satan and exemplifies everything evil and corrupt and wrong with the political system and this has nothing to do with her political views either.

But why does that stop you seeing the stories of Russian collusion, influence, election hijacking,all meddling and Trump off the hook and Hillary was the culprit all along, that you do not come out as strongly against Hillary as you did against Trump with more evidence. This is with evidence that was never there against Trump in fact now found false and financed by Hillary, also since this is the result of an investigation so its fact rather than accusation.

I find it especially interesting in the wolves attacking other wolves when trying to shift the blame and establish a pecking order.

Understand you are the only one that spoke so against Trump that is still here to question also. Since it seems so quiet from others that shared your views, so its to your credit.

But as for political views it has NEVER STOPPED you before from posting on this board, so whats UP? I also want to stress that if values was the issue that you claimed it was and so important then this should be just as much a hot button against Hillary as it was a hot button against Trump. Which with most conservatives it would have been if the opposite had been true.

So is this the liberal hypocrisy showing through a bit?

[Oss]

?spoom  perhaps I should have used the words Actually Win instead of relevant when discussing a 3rd party.  Your point is well taken.

There have been several occasions thru US history when the 3rd party was relevant for sure, like helping honest Abe win,  but in recent history when has a 3rd party WON?

During the primary battle Trump was not someone I thought had a real chance, but the man is a very quick learner and skilled in the art of leverage.  "Give me a lever and I can move the world"

The clear evidence of HRC's total lack of moral fiber caused me to leave my party and support the Republican candidate.

When I go to the frig and open the leftovers and the smell knocks me over, well then I dont eat the food -  I throw it out

Thats what I did with Clinton and the Democratic party at every level this past election cycle and will repeat that this week on the local level as I met and spoke with the candidates for county legislature and the R who is a retired former policeman sincere in his desire to help moves me more than the career politician who always tries to move up before finishing the job at hand.

Now that Trump is my POTUS, I give him the same benefit of the doubt and try to give him the respect I gave all other POTUS during their 1st terms, (even Obama), as if we dont acknowledge who is the leader then we can't fix the ship of state.  Without recognizing the problem how can one fix the problem reliably?

My frustration and anger at Congress however grows deeper daily as they are apparently both unable and incapable of putting forth bills that can move our country forward, only interested in derailing any possible progress on THEIR OWN POTUS's agendas.

Today being Sabbath, I put in extra prayers for this country and wish you all a peaceful day.  Maybe I can even get a ride in after planting the garlic in the bed I turned over last weekend.

[Chrisj CMA]

You have already made up your mind that Clinton has broken numerous laws and Trump has broken none.

Politics is dirty business and just as there is not a clean side to a pile of dog crap there is hardly a clean side to any politician.  But HRC goes above and beyond, did not deserve the Oval Office and does deserve the 6X9 foot cell.  No other way to say it!

[Pappy!]

Well said, ChrisJ !
She epitomizes what Trump is trying to drain.

[Alpha Dog]

This was a sledgehammer this past week indeed, coming from longtime high level Dem. Donna Brazil who always thought of herself as having high standards, and even Sean Hannity has had high respect for her.  What happened.  I think this was triggered when it was found that Ms. Brazil gave the questions to Mrs. C before the CNN ( yeah they were in on it also - go figure ) debate.   When this was found out Mrs. C trashed and blamed this on Ms. Brazil - go figure.  This has always been the C's   MO. when all along it was quite easy to know who the real culprit was as it always is. 

Why should this come as a shock to anyone.  Let us see.  Hey Hill we will give you 800+ super delagates to start.  Hey Bernie in the name of fairness we will give you 50.  Fix was in from the start and went largely, but not completely ignored.  This should have been routed out from the beginning.   

When in 2015 the Dem party was 20 million in the hole from Pres O not wanting to take the time to raise money. The C's stepped in and lent them 20 million under the condition they got to call all the shots and make all the rules, and in effect take over the party.  Blabby Shultz was the stooge in charge.   All money raised by the Dems in national and state got kicked back to the C's through elaborate schemes including laundering and federal laws were broken.  All can be detailed by Gregg Jarrett, Ed Klein, and quite a few others.  What will happen  -  probably nothing as cover is already being provided by Pravda.  The only certainty is that the party wants Mrs. C to just go away and maybe Ms. Brazil's book due out this week will be the instrument to finally achieve this end.     Or maybe not.

[Rams]

I'm reminded of Michelle Obama's speech (2016) where she stated, "When they go low, we go high.".

Yeah, right................  

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm reminded of Michelle Obama's speech (2016) where she stated, "When they go low, we go high.".

Yeah, right................  

Was that the speech Melania copied ? 

[Oss]

Always been a democrat and 3rd generation union  supporter

Interesting how the 1st unions were socialist. Taking care of themselves

Grandpa had to give back 1day pay for each 5  so he worked 6 or night. Working outside all day

Management were no saints then as now in.many cases

Animal farm says it best how  it sunk into corruption

[¿spoom]

Always been a democrat and 3rd generation union  supporter

Interesting how the 1st unions were socialist. Taking care of themselves

Grandpa had to give back 1day pay for each 5  so he worked 6 or night. Working outside all day

Management were no saints then as now in.many cases

Animal farm says it best how  it sunk into corruption

I worked 20 years in a union shop, including one as a steward. Not a member of either party, but voting for Clinton was never an option, period.

[DirtyDan]

Union pipefitter for 20+ years

Registered republican last year

Dan

[Crackerborn]

Union Carpenter 27 years, left in 2009 when my pension, annuity and job did the same. I always voted for the best candidate on the ballot (IMHO) and in the last presidential election there were no good candidates for either major party. Trump was just the lesser of the possible evils.

When you stand a gaggle of politicians on their heads, they all look the like a$$h0!es.

[big d]

Benghazi was a screwup.  No more, no less.  Get over it.

Sadly, internal party politics is not a crime.  If it were, every single politician would be in jail INCLUDING the GOP (already forgot the political pressure put on during the convention, did we?).  The internal politics of the parties have always been there, look at Tweed.  The people still get to vote, but the vote is only for a selection of choices pre-made for you.

You want choice?  Get popular voting passed.  As we continue to support the current system, we get what has been occurring for well over a century.

 Yup, I know protesters always show up to a protest with grenade launchers that takes more than one person to hit the designated spot. A person acting as a spotter is needed.

[Rawie]

Sanders signed the same agreement. Brazile walked back her comments and not in complete context. As the Repubs like to say, no votes were changed.

[Gavin_Sons]

Daddie O should be removed immediately from this forum just for that comment. I bet he wouldn't say that to Big D's face. Little man behind the safety net of his computer. 

[Robert]

I know this is about Hillary and corruption but really here is an example of the insensitive nature that the left is finally coming out with. The left talks a good game but it has failed even in uniting the US and here is a prime example.  

Does anyone really think this is the way to unite the country and what does it say about the morals and character of the people who would say this. While I understand that the left are upset it never is a winning situation to be this way.

[Skinhead]

Well, I've been ignoring him since he was proved wrong at predicting hillary would be our next POTUS.  If that wasn't enough of a humiliation for him, his responses in this thread should be.  Some of you aren't behaving much better than him.  As was suggested, just ignore him.  I look forward to seeing most of you in Roanoke.

[Moonshot_1]

My departure from the Democrat Party was the moment they nominated Bill Clinton for President.
This was the moment the Democrats not only open their doors wide to rampant and institutional corruption but sleazy corruption. It was such a departure from the norm.
I really liked Jimmy Carter. Still do. He had some failures as President and I don't side with him now on general political issues but he is a man of conviction. Still have great respect for the man. Can't say I agree with him on stuff but have great respect for him.

Absolutely none for the Clintons. And the Clintons pretty much have tainted the Democrat Party for decades to come. Just a political party of sleaze and corruption.

As for daddie-o, I've had him on the ignore list for years. Probably a month or two after I signed up for this website. He's never posted much of anything that is coherent or made any positive contributions. Generally a waste of time. Best way to rid yourself of a troll is to ignore it.