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« on: February 07, 2018, 02:30:07 PM »

There is just no telling what might happen along the way, when one wanders and wonders around this amazing land-mass we call North America. Surprises lurk around each bend in the road, and the ‘unexpected’ will jump right out in front of you at the most unlikely times and in the most implausible locales… but, I’m getting a bit ahead of myself here…
 
We departed Brownfield, TX, and all was well! A wee bit cool to start with, but soon enough the mercury in the glass tube began to rise, and the need to de-layer my attire made its presence felt. What a change from recent days, when the need had been to make more frequent stops, because there are limits to just how many layers one can actually wear while riding!

West Texas isn’t exactly the most scenic area of the planet, and for some it may not suit their tastes at all. Personally, I like it a lot! Wide-open spaces, tough critters and plants, too, that have adapted and evolved over time for survival in harsh conditions…

The people out there, too, are tough. A special breed, those who've chosen to inhabit that landscape, and they are inspirational to anyone who bothers to get to know them. One can’t help but come to respect all things there… including the ‘beauty’ of the place, when everything is viewed in its own context…

What a glorious day to be in the saddle doing what we do! The sun shone brightly, the temps were tolerable and improving; ALI was strutting her stuff, and her companion was wearing an enormous smile from ear to ear! I so don’t miss working in that office dungeon or being ‘confined’ by the regular life I’d known… Fate has surely smiled most kindly upon this previously incarcerated soul!!!

We stopped now and then as the need for whatever arose… and to take a voyeuristic peek at ‘life’ wherever we took a notion. Always fascinating conversation available when the need to socialize or engage in ‘human contact’ was felt, but ample solitude and isolation when that was desired… No pain, no strain, and no effort required… just roll with the flow, be respectful, and... cause no problem, and there will be no problem… A most harmonious condition in a seemingly unlikely place.

By this time, we were on a mission again. Troutdude had invited us back to the ‘north shore’ for another examination of ALI’s identity crisis… For some inexplicable reason, we'd reasoned, she had come to channel an alternative USA made motorcycle and to adopt some of its ‘unique tendencies’… like marking her spot, for instance…

Yep, that wee oil leak was continuing… no worse, but no better, either. We figured he’d just have to have another ‘look under the hood’, as a session on a couch seemed an unlikely solution. No, counseling is not an effective solution for ailments pestering those of the female persuasion… that is, unless the counselor is clever enough to link all negative aspects to ‘masculine toxicity’…

We rode back-roads, as is our preference… We dropped below I-10 at Junction, TX, and we proceeded south to Uvalde with the explicit purpose of riding around San Antonio well to the south in mind. Two nights in Uvalde, by the way, as a light drizzle caught us the morning following our first night there… Not to worry, the motel we’ve stayed at several times has a decent restaurant and a rather nice bar on premises… No hot and cold running blonds, unfortunately, but sometimes you just have to rough-it…

From there, we rode over to Alvin, TX, for another night on the road before arriving at the ‘bike medical center’ on the bayou… We stayed at one of the motels our group uses when we’ve attended the GOTF at HG’s and FB’s place nearby.

I didn’t attempt to contact our good friends, however, because it was dark by the time we arrived, I was tired and wanting to crash early, plus I was planning on leaving early the next morning. I was feeling a need to quicken our pace a bit to avoid more weather barreling down on us… following us across the plains and headed the same way we were going!

We did make it to the cozy home of my good friends, Dennis & Shelia… and to the scene of delicate probing and prodding of ‘our girl’ for signs of leakage and to discover the source… then to affect a remedy. I just love a happy ending, and we did… eventually… come to one.

Troutdude… beginning the diagnostics… optimism and confidence levels were high…


In a couple of hours, he had found that teensy, previously hard-to-find trickle of oil oozing from the crankshaft seal and replaced the offending part with one he happened to have on-hand. As a precaution, he had also replaced the cam shaft seals, as well, for good measure… he had those on-hand, too.

I had mentioned another ‘noise’ that had been more noticeable to me during very cold periods, but there to some degree in all situations… particularly when the engine was ‘under load’. He quickly isolated the source to the alternator… The one we’d used to replace the previous one in Michigan last summer… it had been a used part then. At first, we thought the problem was the ‘coupling’ joint where the alternator connects to the engine, and those fittings were then tightened. That seemed to help.

A test ride late that afternoon seemed to be all thumbs-up, but… now there was a slight ‘ticking’ sound coming from somewhere within our girl… Oh well, we buttoned everything up and called it a day… We dined on some really tasty pasta stuff they had made at their house, and then we retired rather early.

The next morning, we jumped in TD’s pick-up and made the ride over to Ponchatula, LA, to the diner where Magoo and Bee Keeper have breakfast nearly every morning… There I was, sitting in a small-town diner nearly a thousand miles from 'home' with three of my good friends having a great time swapping war stories and exchanging a yarn or two… OK, and telling a couple of outright lies, too… Heck, we’ve all done some fishing at one time or another, right?

None of that would have been possible without the VRCC, and the VRCC would not have been possible for me but for ALI… Coincidence? Fate? Blind-ass luck? Whatever it is, I’m mighty glad it happened!!! While there, we received an invitation to join our friends for supper down the road in Manchac at the same restaurant Magoo and Lisa had held their wedding reception.

Breakfast with old friends… Left to Right, Magoo, DDT, Troutdude, Bee Keeper...


Following an eventful and most enjoyable morning, we returned to the task at hand… Another test ride revealed there simply was no denying a strange noise, somewhat different than before, was still present. ‘Alternator’ noise had returned, so Dennis replaced the unit we were using with another one… he just happened to have on-hand… Are you seeing a pattern here? This guy has a veritable warehouse with a huge parts inventory! He also has access to other stuff through the extensive ‘network’ of like-minded wrenches he has available, too.

And, before I forget to mention it: We’d arrived with a minor ‘coolant leak’ of some sort also having recently developed. Sometime during all the stuff Dennis was doing (I typically have no idea about such things, and it is too much trouble for me or anyone else to try and educate this clueless technophobe at this late date…), I had noticed him poking a long screwdriver up towards somewhere near the top of the engine block. I imagined it was to tighten some clamp in there, but I don’t know for certain just what or where… I do know for certain that has done the trick, though, and not a drop of coolant has dripped since then!

Another test ride late that afternoon seemed to be all thumbs-up, finally, however… now there was a slight ‘ticking’ sound coming from deep within our girl… I didn’t make a big deal of it, because, like her partner, she is getting long-in-the-tooth, and there just seems to be no end to minor aches & pains and other ‘geriatric issues’ that are usually harmless… just annoying. I was hoping, I guess, that it was nothing, and this too would pass… turns out it didn’t… We buttoned everything up again, got ready, and went to supper, where we met-up with Magoo and his bride, Bee Keeper, Moonshine, ‘Mama’, and a couple of their friends… and a great time was had by all!!!

Sunset on the bayou...


The following morning, I was rather eager to get back on the road, as more inclement weather seemed to be stalking us, and I was not feeling any need to set-up house-keeping with my friends… ALI was re-loaded, then Dennis and I rode to the Waffle House for a farewell breakfast… I did feel a need for a grits-fix!

Well, shucks! That slight ticking noise had turned into a louder pinging noise and had gotten worse overnight, it appeared, but in any event, there was no ignoring it now! We returned to the ‘examination table’, hoisted our girl upon it after removing some of her burden… and had more extensive attention applied… Dang! Now the illusive ‘sounds’ seemed to be coming from inside the engine itself… and, from the right side this time…? Dennis removed the right-side valve cover from ALI and took a careful gander at all the pieces and parts.

One obvious indicator of a ‘problem’ was a semi-circular chunk of metal lying loose in the valve cover when the cover was removed from its usual place! The head was then removed for more in-depth examination. It turned out that this 'errant' piece was a broken-off part of the cast aluminum head that served as a ‘keeper’ for the ‘guide ring’ near the front end of the cam shaft. That piece had formed part of the ‘groove’ that the ring, about two inches back from the very front of the shaft and just in front of the first valve lifter, rotated inside. The 'guide' was a wee bit higher than the rest of the shaft and all its symmetrical components. This guide, groove/keeper arrangement is designed to keep the cam shaft in position by preventing the it from slipping forward or aft during operation…

A 'pinging' sound developed… How it’s supposed to look...

How ALI's looked...







The application of ‘Super Glue’ to reinstall that broken piece was quickly, but tactfully, ruled out as a viable repair: So much for my contribution…!  lol  Yep, our good friend and ‘wonder wrench’ just so happened to have a spare ‘head’ in his inventory, too! So, our girl now has a new to her but slightly used head that did not come with her in the beginning…

Does that mean she is no longer engine repair-free? Hmmm, or, is this simply some sort of consecession she has wangled from us to assuage her angst at having her identity as an HD challenged? Since we’re not going to use a couch for any of this, I guess that last possibility will have to remain unexplored…

Heck! Honda, Harley, Yammazuki, whatever, I don’t care. I love her regardless of her pedigree, because of all she has meant to me!!! We’ve travelled over a thousand miles since that visit to ‘wrench world’; and, no runs, no drips, no errors have occurred… and no animals were harmed… well, unless you count bugs…

DDT
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 02:59:38 PM »

Forum friends/family are are some of the best folks around .  Glad to hear Ali is sorted out and your both enjoying the scenery again.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 03:35:18 PM »

Troutdude must have a large storage facility.  Glad you got it all sorted out.  Had you not been so "in tune" you might have driven ALI to an untimely demise.  Sure good to have folks like  Dennis available.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 04:13:00 PM »

What a story cooldude cooldude

Very cool outcome.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 05:49:37 PM »

FFS what a POS bike to have something break after a mere near 600,000 miles.

Time to scrap it (wash my mouth out with a Tide Pod)   Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 06:06:11 PM »

Your story reveals that there is no substitute for a skilled, knowledgeable, and willing technician when diagnosing and repairing complicated machines.
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" in action.
A big vote of confidence to your friend.  You are a fortunate man to have him in your corner (kinda like a master farrier to correctively shoe your horse and make it sound again). 
Ride on. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 07:00:38 PM »

Great story Bruce, I'm  happy as I'm sure all are that Ali is continuing on in good health again with her "business" of getting you around this continent.
I've had the privilege of dealing with Dennis when purchasing a pair of shocks from his what appears to be never ending inventory, and then meeting him as well at InZane last year. As fine a person and enjoyable company as there is for sure...along with his diagnostic skills and wiilingness to set up when needed, a good one to have in your corner indeed cooldude
Keep on ramblin'....look forward to your posts every week cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 07:41:09 PM »

What a great story. Good people gravitate towards good people. You've got a fine friend there.  cooldude I'm glad to have you as a friend also. I just wish my mechanical talents were half of what Troutdudes are.  cooldude
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 09:53:33 PM »

THANKS! I very much appreciate all of the comments... I thoroughly enjoyed making this post for several reasons... but more than anything I wanted to highlight the efforts by one of the best wrenches and best people it has ever been my pleasure, and good fortune, to know! That is saying a lot, too, because I know many in our 'family' who have done ALI and me many a kindness and saved our bacon... too many times to attempt to mention.

However, at the risk of understating the high quality assistance and tremendous generosity of so many, Dennis has 'been there' at some of the truly heart-wrenching times that were... Well, he has helped us over some rough hurdles and through some daunting trials that initially appeared they could be the one(s) that would permanently end our Odyssey. Others have certainly done that, too, but no one has done so much, so many times, with that always smiling face and cheerful nature. He is my cherished friend down yonder in Cajun country... He's dang near my hero!

I also get a kick out of trying to capture my feelings of exhaultation, my near euphoria, my 'natural high' experienced while astride our girl doing what we do! Words will never do the experience justice, of course, but I do confess to deriving pleasure from the attempt... That others can enjoy my efforts, well... perhaps that's about as close as I'll come to feeling what Dennis feels when he 'works for others'... when he does good without regard for 'what's in it for me...'

DDT
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 10:38:51 PM »

Wow!  For some reason I had a different vision in my mind when I opened this post.

Ah west Texas.  Certainly very different than this Appalachian wolf is used to but an interesting territory just the same.

It is good to know that Dennis has helped ALI over her illness whether that was the flu with a drippy nose or an identity crisis or a little of both.  It is good that ALI and DDT are well and back to doing what they love.  I know that may be a little selfish of me but I don't want the tales of adventure to stop.

Dennis, you the man!  cooldude

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 03:27:18 AM »

Good Story Bruce.  The Dude can fix anything, that's for sure.  Hope you got some of Shelia's pralines to fix you up also.
 I have two titanium knees and I'm still "kicking", just think of Ali as being made original again.
Good for another 600K.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2018, 04:32:37 AM »


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2018, 04:34:50 AM »

What a great story to read as I start my workday. I very much appreciate the posts you make Bruce (by the way I like your name, we have something in common). Here in northern Ontario there is no chance of getting out on the old girl so I must resign myself to living vicariously through your tales of tribulation and triumph. Hopefully in another 60 days I will be able to hit the road. In late May or early June I plan on leaving for a coast to coast (Atlantic to Pacific) road trip myself. Because of where I live I have to start my journey by driving the 3500km to the Atlantic coast and then head west. Dreaming of this, working on the old girl and reading the stories on the VRCC are all that keeps me going in these frigid temperatures.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2018, 06:33:12 AM »

Great read Bruce (as always) Thank you for taking the time and effort to do these reports.
I know how much time it takes.

The title should turn some "heads"  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 07:05:11 AM »

Jerry,

Yeah, one can only hope! I am so lucky in so many ways... but in some, not so much!  There often appears to be a broad gulf separating wishful thinking from reality! Mercifully, at my age now priorities have shifted some, and... all things considered, I'm quite happy with things just the way they are!!!

Our girl seems to have made a full recovery, and we shared a wonderful two-day blitz ride from LA to central Florida... We were racing some 'damp weather' all the way, but we did make it... dryly... I could spend many mega-bytes trying to illustrate the enormous spiritual lift I felt following my visit with my very talented friend, and the simple fact we were still out there doing what I've come to regard as the highlight of my entire life; but, I know you and many on here already know that feeling very well! Have I ever mentioned that I'm mighty proud and happy to be out here?

Dayum! It sure felt good to be out there hauling... ummmm, you know... and knowing things were just as they should be! We're now holed-up waiting for some stuff to come together and the stars to align just so, and for this career procrastinator to make a couple of significant decisions... Total freedom isn't always total bliss!

DDT


Roger,

Many thanks for the comments! No, no pralines this time, but... who knows what the future may hold! I agree that Dennis could probably fix anything, and it is a definite plus for us to have him in our corner!!! Did you notice the Gremlin bell dangling from ALI's right side engine guard in the pics? Yep, that's the one! Thanks again, for that meaningful treasure... I think of you every time I look at it it...

DDT


Mike!

I was unfamiliar with those topics being bandied about by such deep thinkers, let alone the thought thread and debate that spans a couple of millennia! Thanks for cluing me in! Looks like I'm in some pretty impressive company, though, because I have considered this very issue and its implications myself... No, really!

The concern and consideration first came to me following the first time somebody suggested the engine and/or transmission would eventually have to be replaced... I fretted about that, but then I finally settled on the fact ALI is so much more than a mobility enabler with two wheels... It isn't her 'parts' nor even her features that I love so dearly, although I do very much like those... It is the thought of her and all she represents that bonds us and makes her what, and who, she is!

It's said that Texas is more than just a place, it's a state of mind... Well, our girl has much in common with 'The Republic' in that regard!

DDT



Bruce!

You are most welcome... Thank you for posting and saying those nice things! I can only imagine PMS to the extent y'all up yonder must endure each year... If my stories ease that for you in some small way, then I'm mighty happy to offer them to you...

Best of luck to you on your trek soon! There is nothing else I know of that can compare with a trans-continental trek on a beloved steed, unless it is making such a journey solo... I'd wish you a delightful experience, but I already know that is a lock for you...

DDT



Wiz,

Thanks, Wiz. You've shared many stories of your own, so yes, we both can appreciate the other and the effort made to do this. We both know, as well, that like so many other things in life... the giver often benefits more from the gift exchange than the recipient. Positive feedback and praise from creditable sources is a wonderful reward, and I thank you for your generous provision of that!

About the title... please see the first paragraph of my response to Big Wolf above...

DDT
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 09:09:01 AM »

Ride on DDT...gettin a little head on the road is a good thing...with the kind of mileage we're talking about... Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 12:41:04 PM »

Daniel,

You are right on the money, my friend, as you so often are... I reckon I'm about like most guys I know: I don't get nearly as much as I think I want; I do get about as much as I need; and, I get way more than I deserve! Rationalization...? Maybe...

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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2018, 02:03:22 PM »

Roger,

Many thanks for the comments! No, no pralines this time, but... who knows what the future may hold! I agree that Dennis could probably fix anything, and it is a definite plus for us to have him in our corner!!! Did you notice the Gremlin bell dangling from ALI's right side engine guard in the pics? Yep, that's the one! Thanks again, for that meaningful treasure... I think of you every time I look at it it...

DDT


Absativilly noticed.

You also noticed that it worked quite well.  Your butt didn't stop in the middle of nowhere, did it.

Dilly, Dilly!
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2018, 02:15:22 PM »

Yeah, Dilly Dilly, indeed! Glad we had it on-board... I have been stuck in the middle of nowhere before, and it wasn't a pleasant experience! Thx again...

DDT
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2018, 09:04:56 AM »

Very enlightening post Bruce, and good job Dennis!  I did have one question, Is there a similar thrust surface (broke off piece) on the cam journal cap, or is there only one on the head cam journal?
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2018, 04:56:34 PM »

Very enlightening post Bruce, and good job Dennis!  I did have one question, Is there a similar thrust surface (broke off piece) on the cam journal cap, or is there only one on the head cam journal?

Hey joe there is one on each end that is why you can use a left head on the right and vise versa. The cam only uses the front one so with that one being broke the cam could move back and forth. hope this helps
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2018, 05:44:11 PM »

Ive never seen one of those break any ideas on how it happened?

As always I enjoy reading your adventures and this one was no exception.  cooldude cooldude
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 02:56:12 AM »

Ive never seen one of those break any ideas on how it happened?

As always I enjoy reading your adventures and this one was no exception.  cooldude cooldude




Robert,

We scratched our heads over that very puzzlement ourselves... No clear indications, so several possibilities are potentially the culprit, and any suggested reason would be wild speculation... The one I favor, FWIW, is a miniscule defect in the cast aluminum... I say 'miniscule' because it did hold up for just under 600K miles! Of course it could have been simple ordinary wear and tear, or a Gremlin slipping past our 'bell' dangling nearby, or the recent 'Blood Blue Moon'... who knows? Truth be told, neither of us really know... Oh, and neither of us had ever heard of this happening before, either...

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 05:56:30 AM »

I don't mean to cast aspersions at my Cajun friends abilities as a mechanic, and only ask this to try to understand this failure.  Bruce wrote, "In a couple of hours, he had found that teensy, previously hard-to-find trickle of oil oozing from the crankshaft seal and replaced the offending part with one he happened to have on-hand. As a precaution, he had also replaced the cam shaft seals, as well, for good measure… he had those on-hand, too. " 

Could this failure been inflicted during the cam seal change?  I've personally never replaced them, and have no idea how Dennis did it.  But, from what I can see in the photographs, I see no indications of a casting or machining defect, however higher magnification photos would help in that regard.  The fracture surface (from what I can see) looks like a catastrophic failure rather than a fatigue failure, there are no signs of fatigue striations which usually point directly back to the crack initiation site.  This type of failure is usually the result of an axial load that exceeds the strength of the material, (for example a hammer blow to the nose of the cam).  I know I've had my share of swings and misses while making repairs, and I've broke my share of things trying to repair them.  Again, not saying that is what happened, just axin' the question.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2018, 06:20:09 AM »

Joe i used a large deep well socket and a wooden dowel and taped the seal in (Deep well was deep enough it could not touch the cam shaft) i'm sure that is when this pice came off but still don't know why

 I take full responsibility for breaking our girl but was able to get her back up and running  Everyone knows when you work on something that something else can go wrong  and it normally dose you just have to grin and bare it and keep at it until the task at hand is complete.

 i've replaced many of seals and this is the first one i've had this happen with   I'll keep working on Ali as long as DDT keeps bringing her here and letting me do so because that our girl.
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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 06:39:01 AM »

Wonderful story as always Bruce!
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2018, 07:20:08 AM »

Thanks TT!



TD,

You have my full, total, complete, and unwavering confidence! I watched you in action, including changing out that seal... I understand what Joe is saying, and I see the clear logic of his statement and question. However, I was watching you as you performed that task, and I saw no 'misses' or glancing blows that might have impacted the cam itself... I also noticed the care you seemed to be taking. I truly don't have an idea of the 'real cause', but I do have supreme confidence in your skill and care... If you did cause this, oh well... I doubt it, but... it's all moot anyway, as you surely 'made it all right' in the end!

DDT

P.S. Our girl is running like she were a kid again! Boundless energy and no need for a panty-liner!!! Heck, she just about has me talked into heading out again on another road trip, too... Ummmm, ya know what, coincidentally I just read a post by meathead this morning about this 'great' route he's found into California... We just may need to go and check that out for ourselves... I think I've had enough BBQ and grits to tide me over for another extended excursion, so...

DDT
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2018, 07:50:32 AM »

I *really* think most of us can live with the "600,000" miles answer...

"What the heck happened?"

"600,000 miles happened."

Heck...the machine could suddenly turn sentient, and morph into the equivalent of "the flying dutchbike", hauling an immortal DDT from place to place for the rest of time, condemned to never be able to set foot in the sea...and I for one would just shrug and say, "Well, SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES." as if that should explain everything...

Because...yanno...it really does explain a LOT...whether the particular curiosity concerns the bike or her rider Smiley


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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2018, 08:06:53 AM »

Maybe it should be put in space along with the tesla roadster  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2018, 10:32:28 AM »

Maybe it should be put in space along with the tesla roadster  Wink

It already has more miles on it than the Moon shots did.
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2018, 03:03:10 PM »

Joe i used a large deep well socket and a wooden dowel and taped the seal in (Deep well was deep enough it could not touch the cam shaft) i'm sure that is when this pice came off but still don't know why

 I take full responsibility for breaking our girl but was able to get her back up and running  Everyone knows when you work on something that something else can go wrong  and it normally dose you just have to grin and bare it and keep at it until the task at hand is complete.

 i've replaced many of seals and this is the first one i've had this happen with   I'll keep working on Ali as long as DDT keeps bringing her here and letting me do so because that our girl.


As I said above Dennis, I wasn't trying to place blame, Lord knows I done my fair share of damage, repairs that didn't go the way I wanted.  I'm glad you were able to figure it out and repair it.  Always remember, no good deed goes unpunished.  2funny

Next time I see you remind me to tell you about the '88 Corsica clutch job or Jeff's fork seal replacement. 
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2018, 03:09:42 PM »

Thanks TT!



TD,

You have my full, total, complete, and unwavering confidence! I watched you in action, including changing out that seal... I understand what Joe is saying, and I see the clear logic of his statement and question. However, I was watching you as you performed that task, and I saw no 'misses' or glancing blows that might have impacted the cam itself... I also noticed the care you seemed to be taking. I truly don't have an idea of the 'real cause', but I do have supreme confidence in your skill and care... If you did cause this, oh well... I doubt it, but... it's all moot anyway, as you surely 'made it all right' in the end!

DDT

P.S. Our girl is running like she were a kid again! Boundless energy and no need for a panty-liner!!! Heck, she just about has me talked into heading out again on another road trip, too... Ummmm, ya know what, coincidentally I just read a post by meathead this morning about this 'great' route he's found into California... We just may need to go and check that out for ourselves... I think I've had enough BBQ and grits to tide me over for another extended excursion, so...

DDT

Bruce, you don't know how many times I started and deleted that post, because the last thing I wanted to do was appear to run down a good man like Dennis.  When people started questioning how this happened, I didn't want folks thinking their bike was next.  I give TD all the credit in the world for completing the job and keeping you on the road.  We're all fortunate to be able to call him friend.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 04:01:58 AM »

Joe,

I do understand! I'm sure Dennis does too. We discussed that very possibility among ourselves at the time, so it didn't blind-side us at all that someone else might wonder... In fact, like you, I hesitated to even mention it for fear someone might think less about our good friend. In the end, I did post the story, but I didn't discuss that possibility. Neither of us, I'm sure, feel like any 'attack' or 'slander' or even 'poo-pooing' was being launched... It just happened, but it is something that can be overcome.

I understand your motive, and never thought you were saying anything untoward... I even respect you're pointing that out, and I wish now I had pursued that line a bit more in my original post... I did consider it at the time. I left an 'unanswered question' and perhaps I needed to explore that aspect a bit more. Whatever, it is a legitimate issue to raise, and it is something to bring awareness to for others to consider... Thanks for the tactful and respectful way you framed your inquiry and subsequent replies... Nobody who knows our friend TD cannot help but respect him and all his skills!!!

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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2018, 06:19:46 AM »

Amen!
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2018, 10:58:23 AM »

I *really* think most of us can live with the "600,000" miles answer...

"What the heck happened?"

"600,000 miles happened."

Heck...the machine could suddenly turn sentient, and morph into the equivalent of "the flying dutchbike", hauling an immortal DDT from place to place for the rest of time, condemned to never be able to set foot in the sea...and I for one would just shrug and say, "Well, SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES." as if that should explain everything...

Because...yanno...it really does explain a LOT...whether the particular curiosity concerns the bike or her rider Smiley


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You're exactly right!

Now that I know that the Valkyrie has this "defect" I'm going to make sure that I acquire me a couple of spare heads so that I can replace them at 600,000 miles.  Evil 
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »

I *really* think most of us can live with the "600,000" miles answer...

"What the heck happened?"

"600,000 miles happened."

Heck...the machine could suddenly turn sentient, and morph into the equivalent of "the flying dutchbike", hauling an immortal DDT from place to place for the rest of time, condemned to never be able to set foot in the sea...and I for one would just shrug and say, "Well, SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES." as if that should explain everything...

Because...yanno...it really does explain a LOT...whether the particular curiosity concerns the bike or her rider Smiley


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You're exactly right!

Now that I know that the Valkyrie has this "defect" I'm going to make sure that I acquire me a couple of spare heads so that I can replace them at 600,000 miles.  Evil 

See there!  Now that's exactly te type of knee-jerk reaction I was trying to prevent! Cheesy Cheesy
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