Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting

[The emperor has no clothes]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

[Psychotic Bovine]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

[Serk]

I have many problems with a standard capacity magazine ban... A few:

-It doesn't work. We HAD a standard capacity magazine ban for a DECADE. And in the middle of that decade of tyranny was Columbine.

-It's easily circumvented. VERY easily. FIVE years ago was when this was done, you can crank out standard capacity magazines on a $300 3D printer all day long now, imagine where we'll be in another few years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY16r6EkUNY

-IT DOESN'T WORK. And if we give in and "compromise" the forces of evil will then come back and say "Well, that didn't work, now we need you to give up MORE of your rights to make you safe." No compromise with evil I say. They will never be satisfied, or successful.

I could go on, but I'm getting too emotionally worked up, I'll leave it at that.

Molon Labe.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I have many problems with a standard capacity magazine ban... A few:

-It doesn't work. We HAD a standard capacity magazine ban for a DECADE. And in the middle of that decade of tyranny was Columbine.

-It's easily circumvented. VERY easily. FIVE years ago was when this was done, you can crank out standard capacity magazines on a $300 3D printer all day long now, imagine where we'll be in another few years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY16r6EkUNY

-IT DOESN'T WORK. And if we give in and "compromise" the forces of evil will then come back and say "Well, that didn't work, now we need you to give up MORE of your rights to make you safe." No compromise with evil I say. They will never be satisfied, or successful.

I could go on, but I'm getting too emotionally worked up, I'll leave it at that.

Molon Labe.

That's just it, Serk.  It's not really compromise.  Let's say someone owns 5 cars (which, why the heck would someone need 5 of those evil things!), and the government (pushed by those limousine libs) say we can only have 2.  So, the gov't (pushed by those limousine libs), takes 3.  What have you gained by the deal?  Nothing.  You have lost 3 cars.
The same way with rights (and property).  A compromise is where both sides gain and lose.  When rights are lost, only the takers of those rights gain anything.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have many problems with a standard capacity magazine ban... A few:

-It doesn't work. We HAD a standard capacity magazine ban for a DECADE. And in the middle of that decade of tyranny was Columbine.

-It's easily circumvented. VERY easily. FIVE years ago was when this was done, you can crank out standard capacity magazines on a $300 3D printer all day long now, imagine where we'll be in another few years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY16r6EkUNY

-IT DOESN'T WORK. And if we give in and "compromise" the forces of evil will then come back and say "Well, that didn't work, now we need you to give up MORE of your rights to make you safe." No compromise with evil I say. They will never be satisfied, or successful.

I could go on, but I'm getting too emotionally worked up, I'll leave it at that.

Molon Labe.

What's the sense of having ANY laws then. Surely criminals will try to circumvent them.

[Serk]

I have many problems with a standard capacity magazine ban... A few:

-It doesn't work. We HAD a standard capacity magazine ban for a DECADE. And in the middle of that decade of tyranny was Columbine.

-It's easily circumvented. VERY easily. FIVE years ago was when this was done, you can crank out standard capacity magazines on a $300 3D printer all day long now, imagine where we'll be in another few years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY16r6EkUNY

-IT DOESN'T WORK. And if we give in and "compromise" the forces of evil will then come back and say "Well, that didn't work, now we need you to give up MORE of your rights to make you safe." No compromise with evil I say. They will never be satisfied, or successful.

I could go on, but I'm getting too emotionally worked up, I'll leave it at that.

Molon Labe.

What's the sense of having ANY laws then. Surely criminals will try to circumvent them.

Maybe we should just make murder illegal?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have many problems with a standard capacity magazine ban... A few:

-It doesn't work. We HAD a standard capacity magazine ban for a DECADE. And in the middle of that decade of tyranny was Columbine.

-It's easily circumvented. VERY easily. FIVE years ago was when this was done, you can crank out standard capacity magazines on a $300 3D printer all day long now, imagine where we'll be in another few years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY16r6EkUNY

-IT DOESN'T WORK. And if we give in and "compromise" the forces of evil will then come back and say "Well, that didn't work, now we need you to give up MORE of your rights to make you safe." No compromise with evil I say. They will never be satisfied, or successful.

I could go on, but I'm getting too emotionally worked up, I'll leave it at that.

Molon Labe.

What's the sense of having ANY laws then. Surely criminals will try to circumvent them.

Maybe we should just make murder illegal?

I thought you just said laws don't work ? Why not just make it a free for all ? Obviously you were being facetious. You just don't want laws that may affect you ?

[Serk]

I thought you just said laws don't work ? Why not just make it a free for all ? Obviously you were being facetious. You just don't want laws that may affect you ?

I don't want laws that don't have a victim.

No victim, no crime.

Murder has a victim.

Owning, selling, manufacturing, etc a standard capacity magazine has no victim.

[The emperor has no clothes]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

[Serk]

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

Maybe I'm just a dumb Texas country hick, but "Shall Not Be Infringed" seems pretty cut and dried to me.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Owning, selling, manufacturing, etc a standard capacity magazine has no victim.

Owning, selling, manufacturing nuclear weapons, biological weapons, chemical weapons has no victim either. You ok with your nut job neighbor down the street having them ?

[DirtyDan]

Arms=weapons

Weapons = tools of violence

Dan

[The emperor has no clothes]

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

Maybe I'm just a dumb Texas country hick, but "Shall Not Be Infringed" seems pretty cut and dried to me.

I don't think you are. "Shall not be infringed" can and has been interpreted by the Supreme Court differently.

[Serk]

Owning, selling, manufacturing nuclear weapons, biological weapons, chemical weapons has no victim either. You ok with your nut job neighbor down the street having them ?

I _AM_ the nut job neighbor down the street.



Semi serious answer - Anything North Korea is allowed to have, American citizens should be allowed to have.

Maybe I'm just a dumb Texas country hick, but "Shall Not Be Infringed" seems pretty cut and dried to me.

I don't think you are. "Shall not be infringed" can and has been interpreted by the Supreme Court differently.

The Supreme Court also once decided that a black man was 3/5 of a white man. They're not infallible.

[The emperor has no clothes]

They certainly aren't infallible. It's also certain that clause is not as cut and dried as you would like it to be. Very serious observation. I want NONE of my neighbors possessing nuclear, biological, chemical weapons. Thankfully the law agrees. 

[Serk]

They certainly aren't infallible. It's also certain that clause is not as cut and dried as you would like it to be. Very serious observation. I want NONE of my neighbors possessing nuclear, biological, chemical weapons. Thankfully the law agrees. 

Some of my post gastric-bypass farts would negate that statement.

I mean, I've had the DOG whimper, cry and leave the room, and one of HIS hobbies is eating his own turds.

[Psychotic Bovine]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

The same place it says that you can own a computer. (1st Amendment says right to freedom of speech and the (printing) press).  

You really do make it easy to make yourself look foolish.

[MAD6Gun]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

 Where doesn't it say.

 The second amendment in case you forgot meathead.

'A well regulated Militia,being necessary to the security of a free state,the right of the people to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed"...

 It says Arms. A magazine is part of a arm is it not. Besides if that is your argument like all other liberals. The first never says anything about TV or the Internet does it. A lot of crap is said and posted in the name of the first.

[The emperor has no clothes]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

The same place it says that you can own a computer. (1st Amendment says right to freedom of speech and the (printing press). 

You really do make it easy to make yourself look foolish.

another flash of brilliance. You aren't related to Mad6Gun ?

[Gavin_Sons]

30 bad guys (or any mob) is completely possible.  (Not the main reason for the 2d amendment)

30 good guys (cops or US military) come to take my weapons, is less likely but still possible, and these are the exact firearms they will come with.  (Is the main reason for the 2d amendment)

Both will be fought with deadly force.

Why do you guys argue with him?  You will not change his mind.  He will not change your (my) mind.

Possible yes. Any instances of it actually happened ? There are plenty of examples of children actually being slaughtered.

ANYONE, that wants to ban guns to "SAVE CHILDREN" and yet supports abortion,

IS A HYPOCRITE! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. 

And how is restricting magazine size "banning guns" ? Supports abortion ?

It's  ok, we will just let our liberal friends be slaughtered while we are safe behind our high cap magazines. When it comes time to defend our rights you are my enemy.

[The emperor has no clothes]

30 bad guys (or any mob) is completely possible.  (Not the main reason for the 2d amendment)

30 good guys (cops or US military) come to take my weapons, is less likely but still possible, and these are the exact firearms they will come with.  (Is the main reason for the 2d amendment)

Both will be fought with deadly force.

Why do you guys argue with him?  You will not change his mind.  He will not change your (my) mind.

Possible yes. Any instances of it actually happened ? There are plenty of examples of children actually being slaughtered.

ANYONE, that wants to ban guns to "SAVE CHILDREN" and yet supports abortion,

IS A HYPOCRITE! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. 

And how is restricting magazine size "banning guns" ? Supports abortion ?

It's  ok, we will just let our liberal friends be slaughtered while we are safe behind our high cap magazines. When it comes time to defend our rights you are my enemy.

Who are you kidding ? You have no liberal friends. (I feel honored that you consider me your enemy)

[Serk]

It's  ok, we will just let our liberal friends be slaughtered while we are safe behind our high cap magazines. When it comes time to defend our rights you are my enemy.

Standard capacity, not high capacity. Don't use the language of the tyrants that would enslave and murder us all.

[Gavin_Sons]

30 bad guys (or any mob) is completely possible.  (Not the main reason for the 2d amendment)

30 good guys (cops or US military) come to take my weapons, is less likely but still possible, and these are the exact firearms they will come with.  (Is the main reason for the 2d amendment)

Both will be fought with deadly force.

Why do you guys argue with him?  You will not change his mind.  He will not change your (my) mind.

Possible yes. Any instances of it actually happened ? There are plenty of examples of children actually being slaughtered.

ANYONE, that wants to ban guns to "SAVE CHILDREN" and yet supports abortion,

IS A HYPOCRITE! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. 

And how is restricting magazine size "banning guns" ? Supports abortion ?

It's  ok, we will just let our liberal friends be slaughtered while we are safe behind our high cap magazines. When it comes time to defend our rights you are my enemy.

Who are you kidding ? You have no liberal friends. (I feel honored that you consider me your enemy)

You're right,  I do not have any friends that snuggling stupid.

[Gavin_Sons]

It's  ok, we will just let our liberal friends be slaughtered while we are safe behind our high cap magazines. When it comes time to defend our rights you are my enemy.

Standard capacity, not high capacity. Don't use the language of the tyrants that would enslave and murder us all.

Ahhh thank you Serk. I stand corrected.

[phideux]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

Where does it say your rights don't include them. The right to  Keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Specific arms have specific parts and capacities. your standard revolver usually comes with a 6 round capacity, your 1911 comes wit a standard 7 round capacity, your standard Glock 9mm comes with a 15 round magazine, alot of the old time tube fed 22s came with a 17rd tube, but you could stuff about 30 22shorts in some of them, AR15s come with 10,20 or 30rd mags. magazine capacity doesn't matter, a reload happens in seconds. What's the difference if a killer wants to kill and all he has is 10rd mags?? He'll just carry in 10 of them.
Again, there are F-ed up people in this world, they are going to do F-ed up stuff no matter what the law says. Usually the only way to stop him from doing that F-ed up stuff is to take him out when he starts f-ing stuff up. Do you think that situation could have been alot different if instead of going into that first classroom and finder teacher and kids cowering in the corner he was met with a teacher that had a shorty AR under her desk and lit his ass up with a 30rd mag.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

[MAD6Gun]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

The same place it says that you can own a computer. (1st Amendment says right to freedom of speech and the (printing press). 

You really do make it easy to make yourself look foolish.

another flash of brilliance. You aren't related to Mad6Gun ?

 Why yes he is. He is my younger brother and Solo1 is our father.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

To meathead's way of thinking, if you just ban the tool, the evil goes away.

So, Meathead, what are the top 3 mass murders that occurred in the US?

And what do those 3 have in common (or more specifically not in common).

When have I said we should ban guns ? You guys always revert to the same old talking points. "Anybody that wishes to look at solutions for our gun violence is trying to take our weapons."
The top 3 mass murders are not at issue here. The slaughter of 6 year olds is.

Well, I can assure you that people of all ages died.

So, since you can't be bothered to answer the question, I will give it to you.

9/11 (nearly 3000 people killed)
Oklahoma City (187 killed, 1995)
Happyland Nightclub arson (87 killed).
Do these murders have less "value" to people like yourself, because they were not committed with a firearm?

None of these murders were committed with a firearm.  You can't just legislate murder away.

And even if you banned 30 round (standard capacity) mags, do you honestly think criminals would give them up?  How do you propose to get them?  House to house searches?  Sorry, 4th Amendment of that pesky ol' Constitution says you cannot seize private property from The People without due process.

I don't care if anyone says I don't need a reason to own something.  The Constitution, you know that pesky ol' document that politicians and such swear to uphold?  It doesn't say "The right of the people, but ONLY if you have a reason to, will not be denied thus and thus"

The scariest words ever uttered in a free society are "for the common good".  These are the words that allow feds to kick down doors and search and seize.  These are the words that feds use to restrict free speech.

So, sirs, be careful what you wish for.

I do get a kick out of all of these keyboard warriors willing to send police into harms way to take what belongs to the people, because they do not have the balls to do it themselves.

Personally, I'm not ready to bow down to the Hollywood elites, the news reporters, the politicians, to give up my rights for "the common good".

Where does it say in the constitution that your rights include 30-50 round magazines ?

The same place it says that you can own a computer. (1st Amendment says right to freedom of speech and the (printing press). 

You really do make it easy to make yourself look foolish.

another flash of brilliance. You aren't related to Mad6Gun ?

 Why yes he is. He is my younger brother and Solo1 is our father.  

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[Serk]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

[The emperor has no clothes]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

[Serk]

I’m out. You guys are right.

[3fan4life]

30 bad guys (or any mob) is completely possible.  (Not the main reason for the 2d amendment)

30 good guys (cops or US military) come to take my weapons, is less likely but still possible, and these are the exact firearms they will come with.  (Is the main reason for the 2d amendment)

Both will be fought with deadly force.

Why do you guys argue with him?  You will not change his mind.  He will not change your (my) mind.

Possible yes. Any instances of it actually happened ? There are plenty of examples of children actually being slaughtered.

ANYONE, that wants to ban guns to "SAVE CHILDREN" and yet supports abortion,

IS A HYPOCRITE! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. 

And how is restricting magazine size "banning guns" ? Supports abortion ?

If by your votes you support the party that supports abortion you are supporting it whether you approve of it or not.

These statements sound pretty Anti- Gun to me:

Yes, the AR-15 is just a tool. A tool designed and purposed for the efficient killing of people.

So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....

Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids.

[MAD6Gun]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

 
 Glad you finally realized that. Took you long enough..........

[Moonshot_1]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

It isn't that we need more guns. It is that you will never get to effectively addressing this issue by blaming the gun for violent people. The gun control arguments tend to be along the line of blaming the car for drunk drivers.

If we find that a common denominator in these school shootings are shooters jacked up on prosaic and Ritalin scrambling up their minds, maybe we should look to curb such usage and track adolescents who are being prescribed such medication.

We give these kids mind altering medication and immerse them in violent video games, music, films, and unforgiving social media and assume nothing bad will happen.

It is pretty easy to connect the dots here.   

[3fan4life]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

It isn't that we need more guns. It is that you will never get to effectively addressing this issue by blaming the gun for violent people. The gun control arguments tend to be along the line of blaming the car for drunk drivers.

If we find that a common denominator in these school shootings are shooters jacked up on prosaic and Ritalin scrambling up their minds, maybe we should look to curb such usage and track adolescents who are being prescribed such medication.

We give these kids mind altering medication and immerse them in violent video games, music, films, and unforgiving social media and assume nothing bad will happen.

It is pretty easy to connect the dots here.   

For some reason the Libs will only blame the "Evil" gun.

You would think that any sensible person would be agreeable to keeping guns out of the hands of mentally unstable people.

But, that's contrary to what the talking heads have brainwashed them to do.

[Serk]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

out of the country? that is awesome because it is apparent u are anti-american, anti-constitution and u believe in murdering unborn American children. u have been manipulated to be a UN marxist globalist over the yrs. sad thing is u don't even know it has been done to u.  move to a country such as england or australia that has gun control and see how safe u feel in your older yrs.  https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/  The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates after banding guns.

I STRONGLY disagree with Mr. Head on this (And many other things), but that seems a bit harsh, IMHO...

[The emperor has no clothes]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

out of the country? that is awesome because it is apparent u are anti-american, anti-constitution and u believe in murdering unborn American children. u have been manipulated to be a UN marxist globalist over the yrs. sad thing is u don't even know it has been done to u.  move to a country such as england or australia that has gun control and see how safe u feel in your older yrs.  https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/  The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates after banding guns.

I STRONGLY disagree with Mr. Head on this (And many other things), but that seems a bit harsh, IMHO...

Thanks for the show of support. It’s ok though. I know what I have given to my country. And what I would give in the future if needed.

[Gavin_Sons]

In the spirit of pissing off liberals I'm going gun shopping tomorrow.  and I'm planning on buying several normal capacity (30 round) magazines. I already have 15 but another 5 won't hurt. Kel tec has their new shotgun out that holds 25 2 3/4" rounds. Load that sucker up with 00 buck for home defense. 

[Bighead]

The difference is that in the process of reloading it would give some chance at subduing the shooter.

Allowing teachers and other school staff to be armed would give a MUCH better chance at "subduing" the shooter than restricting magazine size (Which wouldn't work since anyone with a $300 3D printer can just make their own)

You ready to support that, I assume?

I’m out. You guys are right. We need more guns in our society. God knows we don’t have enough. I resisted joining this conversation for a couple days. I should have resisted longer.

Thought you didnt believe in GOD, so why bring him into this conversation? Also glad I made another purchase today

[Serk]

I'm planning on buying several normal capacity (30 round) magazines.

I HIGHLY recommend MagPul PMAG G3's... Good enough for the Marines, good enough for me!

(And kudos to MagPul for pulling out of Colorado when the state turned communist. They said they'd leave if it happened, it happened, and they left.)

I found a place at a local fun show recently that had 'em for $14 each, I asked 'em how much if I bought in bulk, he told me buy 10 or more, $10 each... I bought a few hundred dollar's worth at that price...