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Rocket III for 2019. 180hp

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hubcapsc


As long as you can keep all your stuff in your back pocket  :2funny: ...

-Mike

Oss

The Acceleration of the original was impressive.

Might need ty bungee myself in.  :2funny:
If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
Yogi Berra   (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)

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Quote from: hubcapsc on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 08:56:46

As long as you can keep all your stuff in your back pocket  :2funny: ...

-Mike

:cooldude:

Daniel Meyer

CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

JFaje1

This one is good looking, wish I was younger.

John

¿spoom

Pretty cool. The original Valkyrie concept on steroids. Not a "complete" bike, because it's not designed to do everything. Like ride in the rain with that ornamental fender because you want your back to be soaked, or breaking up with your significant other by twisting your wrist from a red light. I'm sure the aftermarket will augment it with a real rear fender & rear seat, as well as going the other way with really trick solo seats, perhaps even with a small storage compartment.

msb

That is one very cool looking bike. Will be interesting to see it from other angles when/if it is actually rolled out, and if it's true to this rendering. I've always been a fan of the Rocket III's, both the Roadster and Touring models and have ridden them both. They suggest at the end of the article that the possibility of a full-dress tourer model could be available down the road....don't know about that, but I'd sure like to see what it would look like in this style.
Mike

'99 Red  & Black IS

FryeVRCCDS0067

Nice! A touring version might just be steller!
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.''
-- Barry Goldwater, Acceptance Speech at the Republican Convention; 1964

Leathel

Quote from: ¿spoom on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 10:33:08
Pretty cool. The original Valkyrie concept on steroids. Not a "complete" bike, because it's not designed to do everything. Like ride in the rain with that ornamental fender because you want your back to be soaked, or breaking up with your significant other by twisting your wrist from a red light. I'm sure the aftermarket will augment it with a real rear fender & rear seat, as well as going the other way with really trick solo seats, perhaps even with a small storage compartment.


but as so many don't ride in rain or use a bike in any practical way..... It will probably sell.....and you will have another lot of dust collecting low mile bikes, just because they want to say they have one  :evil:

3fan4life

I'm betting that thing will be scary fast!

Don't know if I would want to own one, but I'd love to take one for a spin.
1 Corinthians 1:18


Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

With that exhaust set-up I don't see any aftermarket hard saddlebags coming its way unless they are very small.


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

Chrisj CMA


Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005



I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

Rams

Interesting motorcycle.   I assume the huge horsepower and torque numbers will be reflected in the price.   I like most of what I see and read.   

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

Davemn

Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 13:29:00
With that exhaust set-up I don't see any aftermarket hard saddlebags coming its way unless they are very small.
Why would anyone put saddle bags on a bike like that? I think that's against the law.

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

Quote from: Davemn on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 18:40:28
Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 13:29:00
With that exhaust set-up I don't see any aftermarket hard saddlebags coming its way unless they are very small.
Why would anyone put saddle bags on a bike like that? I think that's against the law.

Believe it or not some people like to get on their bike and take a road trip for two or three weeks . Very nice having somewhere to put a toothbrush and a change of clothes.











I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

Farside

 :cooldude: I liked the older Rocket III but didn't hear alot of positive feedback. I like the looks of this and will wait to here the reports.   :coolsmiley:
Farside

John Schmidt

Since I have my ad blocker on that website won't let me in. Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for the bike.

FryeVRCCDS0067

Quote from: Davemn on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 18:40:28
Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 13:29:00
With that exhaust set-up I don't see any aftermarket hard saddlebags coming its way unless they are very small.
Why would anyone put saddle bags on a bike like that? I think that's against the law.

To me, a touring bike that still looked like a motorcycle but had that kind of power would be the ultimate motorcycle. Makes me question if I should have waited a few years instead of buying my new F6B.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And... moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.''
-- Barry Goldwater, Acceptance Speech at the Republican Convention; 1964

Leathel

Quote from: John Schmidt on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 22:24:06
Since I have my ad blocker on that website won't let me in. Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for the bike.

some info and a picture is on this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNsSLrkxjsg

Rams

Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 22:28:30
Makes me question if I should have waited a few years instead of buying my new F6B.

This coming from someone who is not a fan of the F6b looks/styling:   Never question yourself on that.   The F6b is a wonderful machine from a proven superb engineering/motorcycle producer with many huge successes and lots of facilities/dealers to work on the Honda of your choice.

Triumph lacks many of the aforementioned points but, I do find the purposed Rocket III intriguing.  Will seriously consider a Rocket III after that winning lottery ticket comes in.  ;)

Rams

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

9Ball

Quote from: Rams on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 03:38:15
Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 22:28:30
Makes me question if I should have waited a few years instead of buying my new F6B.

This coming from someone who is not a fan of the F6b looks/styling:   Never question yourself on that.   The F6b is a wonderful machine from a proven superb engineering/motorcycle producer with many huge successes and lots of facilities/dealers to work on the Honda of your choice.

Triumph lacks many of the aforementioned points but, I do find the purposed Rocket III intriguing.  Will seriously consider a Rocket III after that winning lottery ticket comes in.  ;)

Me too...




Rams

Rams
VRCC #6897, Joined May, 2000

1999 Standard
2007 Rocket 3
2005 VTX 1300S

Rams

#23
Quote from: 9Ball on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 03:50:34
Quote from: Rams on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 03:38:15
Quote from: FryeVRCCDS0067 on Thu 20, Dec 2018, 22:28:30
Makes me question if I should have waited a few years instead of buying my new F6B.

This coming from someone who is not a fan of the F6b looks/styling:   Never question yourself on that.   The F6b is a wonderful machine from a proven superb engineering/motorcycle producer with many huge successes and lots of facilities/dealers to work on the Honda of your choice.

Triumph lacks many of the aforementioned points but, I do find the purposed Rocket III intriguing.  Will seriously consider a Rocket III after that winning lottery ticket comes in.  ;)

Me too...




Rams

Not knocking the choice of Triumph for anyone else.

The smallish number of Triumph dealerships and previously noted Rocket IIIs transmission problems would be my personal concerns.  

I was in KC a few months ago at a dealership seeking a new front tire for my Valkyrie and saw a new but older model of the Triumph Rocket III.   I was curious and enquired about it.   The salesman offered it to me for what he said was a 40% markdown.   While that may be a wonderful price, it made caution lights and warning bells go off in my head.    There had to be a reason for that.    No, I don't remember what year or much else about it.

If a Rocket III makes ya happy, I'm happy for ya.    Yeah, I still find the new Rocket III intriguing.    ;)

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

9Ball

#24
The dealer network is the biggest issue.  Many have gone out of business and compared to other brands they are really sparse.

Those of us that have Valkyries do most of the maintenance ourselves.  It's the same with Rocket owners.  Btw, my R3 had the dreaded transmission problems and it was addressed through the dealer.  NO worries now.  Just be sure that any older than model year 2008 have had the update kit, then you will have assurance that the problems were fixed.  They mark the serial number to show the fix was made.

The benefit of fuel injection makes these a lot less prone to fuel issues than our carbureted engines...some would say the Achilles heel of our bikes (not to mention final drive failures).  If you ride bikes you'll quickly learn where the potential and real problems exist, sometimes painfully.

There's not much more gratifying than twisting the Rocket throttle and feeling the power.  There's also no feeling like tearing through the twisted on a Valkyrie.  I am fortunate enough to have both.
VRCC #6897, Joined May, 2000

1999 Standard
2007 Rocket 3
2005 VTX 1300S

¿spoom

Quote from: 9Ball on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 06:29:43
The dealer network is the biggest issue.  Many have gone out of business and compared to other brands they are really sparse.

Those of us that have Valkyries do most of the maintenance ourselves.  It's the same with Rocket owners.  Btw, my R3 had the dreaded transmission problems and it was addressed through the dealer.  NO worries now.  Just be sure that any older than model year 2008 have had the update kit, then you will have assurance that the problems were fixed.  They mark the serial number to show the fix was made.

The benefit of fuel injection makes these a lot less prone to fuel issues than our carbureted engines...some would say the Achilles heel of our bikes (not to mention final drive failures).  If you ride bikes you'll quickly learn where the potential and real problems exist, sometimes painfully.

There's not much more gratifying than twisting the Rocket throttle and feeling the power.  There's also no feeling like tearing through the twisted on a Valkyrie.  I am fortunate enough to have both.
Good points, but there's been increased Triumph sales and probably the dealer closing will/have stopped and perhaps turned around. Some of the Original R3 breakdowns were from the simple (stupid) mistake of assembling with a "sealed on one side" bearing put in backwards. The oil seal kept the oil out of the bearing instead of in the bike. If they do make a tourer version, I hope they don't screw up the bike like they did with the first Tourer, i.e. reduced power and skinnier rear tire than the original.

Leathel

I wont be buying one anytime soon but I would love to ride one  :laugh: I have several friends that have them and it seams the old world triumph electrical problems they has gone but they have traded them with new electrical issues, all bar one of my friends triumphs have faults, recurring fault codes, headlight switch issues, bad connections in the start circuit etc and all bar one are 2012 and newer


But you can get blue tooth plugs that can link to your phone to clear codes now so 2 carry those now :D



Rams

#27
Quote from: 9Ball on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 06:29:43
The dealer network is the biggest issue.  Many have gone out of business and compared to other brands they are really sparse.

Those of us that have Valkyries do most of the maintenance ourselves.  It's the same with Rocket owners.  Btw, my R3 had the dreaded transmission problems and it was addressed through the dealer.  NO worries now.  Just be sure that any older than model year 2008 have had the update kit, then you will have assurance that the problems were fixed.  They mark the serial number to show the fix was made.

The benefit of fuel injection makes these a lot less prone to fuel issues than our carbureted engines...some would say the Achilles heel of our bikes (not to mention final drive failures).  If you ride bikes you'll quickly learn where the potential and real problems exist, sometimes painfully.

There's not much more gratifying than twisting the Rocket throttle and feeling the power.  There's also no feeling like tearing through the twisted on a Valkyrie.  I am fortunate enough to have both.

I would agree.    :cooldude:

Now, what's one of these new Rocket IIIs gonna cost?

Quote from: Leathel on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 12:45:50
I wont be buying one anytime soon but I would love to ride one  :laugh: I have several friends that have them and it seams the old world triumph electrical problems they has gone but they have traded them with new electrical issues, all bar one of my friends triumphs have faults, recurring fault codes, headlight switch issues, bad connections in the start circuit etc and all bar one are 2012 and newer


But you can get blue tooth plugs that can link to your phone to clear codes now so 2 carry those now :D

Seriously?    Seems like every British cage and bike I ever heard of had electrical issues.....

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

..

Quote from: Rams on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 12:46:39
Quote from: 9Ball on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 06:29:43
The dealer network is the biggest issue.  Many have gone out of business and compared to other brands they are really sparse.

Those of us that have Valkyries do most of the maintenance ourselves.  It's the same with Rocket owners.  Btw, my R3 had the dreaded transmission problems and it was addressed through the dealer.  NO worries now.  Just be sure that any older than model year 2008 have had the update kit, then you will have assurance that the problems were fixed.  They mark the serial number to show the fix was made.

The benefit of fuel injection makes these a lot less prone to fuel issues than our carbureted engines...some would say the Achilles heel of our bikes (not to mention final drive failures).  If you ride bikes you'll quickly learn where the potential and real problems exist, sometimes painfully.

There's not much more gratifying than twisting the Rocket throttle and feeling the power.  There's also no feeling like tearing through the twisted on a Valkyrie.  I am fortunate enough to have both.

I would agree.    :cooldude:

Now, what's one of these new Rocket IIIs gonna cost?

Quote from: Leathel on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 12:45:50
I wont be buying one anytime soon but I would love to ride one  :laugh: I have several friends that have them and it seams the old world triumph electrical problems they has gone but they have traded them with new electrical issues, all bar one of my friends triumphs have faults, recurring fault codes, headlight switch issues, bad connections in the start circuit etc and all bar one are 2012 and newer


But you can get blue tooth plugs that can link to your phone to clear codes now so 2 carry those now :D

Seriously?    Seems like every British cage and bike I ever heard of had electrical issues.....

Rams

Lucas - Prince of Darkness.

Lucas was the company that designed and supplied most cars etc their electrical systems

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Years ago on eBay someone had a jar of Lucas electrical smoke for sale.

The questions section was funny.

Bloody hell here it is.  :cooldude:

http://mez.co.uk/lucas.html


¿spoom

Quote from: Britman on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 13:04:39
Years ago on eBay someone had a jar of Lucas electrical smoke for sale.

The questions section was funny.

Bloody hell here it is.  :cooldude:

http://mez.co.uk/lucas.html


Love it! I re-wired a friend's early 60's MG Midget back in the late 70's. What an adventure. A unique combination of hand-carved components made from Ben Franklin's original sketch books.

Valker

The only thing Lucas ever made that didn't suck was a vacuum cleaner.
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

Rams

Quote from: Valker on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 15:01:35
The only thing Lucas ever made that didn't suck was a vacuum cleaner.

May I quote you on that?   ;)

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

Jess from VA

Didn't Lucas pioneer the reverse polarity 6 Volt system?   ;D

The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.

Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.

The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.

_Sheffjs_

If you can afford one of these than you should be able to have more than one bike, and that could be one for longer rides with storage and one for what this bike would offer. I really like the look of the bike however it would not be for me.

Valker

Quote from: Rams on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 15:34:16
Quote from: Valker on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 15:01:35
The only thing Lucas ever made that didn't suck was a vacuum cleaner.

May I quote you on that?   ;)

Rams

Absolutely. 8)
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

Hooter

A few years back I owned a Rocket III Touring. Fit and finish was excellent! Great ride, handled well, and in the handle category was simular to the Valkyrie only better. Smooth, no vibration. There is a computer flash called "Tors" that enhances performance. This bike right out of the crate would scare the hell out of you. You better hang on when you first ride this thing. (Tors:: Like it needed it, but I had it done). This update included an exhaust change. Never got used to the exhaust note. Kinda putt putt.

The bags were nice and there are choices in height for the quick change windshield. Mileage was good, I got around 42 - 45 mpg. I liked the bike and performance just fine. Torque was unbelievable to say the least. Only problem, transmission was crap! Would jump out of first on ocassions. Dealer was worse than the transmission! Had it there several times for the problem. They claimed no issue.

After almost getting hit when the transmission jumped out of first pulling into traffic, I got rid of it and bought another Valkyrie. If the transmission would have been solid I would still have the bike. I ordered the bike out of Hinkley England. After waiting all winter for the bike, and the transmission issue, I was more than disappointed when I got rid of it.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

F6Dave

I test rode a Rocket III a few years ago.  I was surprised how well it handled.  It felt a lot like the Valkyrie.  The prices were very reasonable too.  I seriously considered buying the Touring version, but I'd read of reliability issues so ended up buying an F6B.  In addition to the transmission I heard about cam chain problems.

To their credit, Triumph makes these bikes for many years, rather than dropping them after a short run like Honda has with both Valkyries.  As for the dealer network, it looks a bit sparse outside of the larger cities.  On the other hand, few Honda dealers stock many parts for my 20 year old Valkyries.  Many won't even work on them any more.  But with Honda's reliability that doesn't worry me at all.

F6Dave

Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 21, Dec 2018, 15:44:20
Didn't Lucas pioneer the reverse polarity 6 Volt system?   ;D

The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.

Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.

The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.


Lucas was also known as the 'Prince of Darkness'.

¿spoom

Quote from: Hooter on Sat 22, Dec 2018, 06:48:24
A few years back I owned a Rocket III Touring. Fit and finish was excellent! Great ride, handled well, and in the handle category was simular to the Valkyrie only better. Smooth, no vibration. There is a computer flash called "Tors" that enhances performance. This bike right out of the crate would scare the hell out of you. You better hang on when you first ride this thing. (Tors:: Like it needed it, but I had it done). This update included an exhaust change. Never got used to the exhaust note. Kinda putt putt.

The bags were nice and there are choices in height for the quick change windshield. Mileage was good, I got around 42 - 45 mpg. I liked the bike and performance just fine. Torque was unbelievable to say the least. Only problem, transmission was crap! Would jump out of first on ocassions. Dealer was worse than the transmission! Had it there several times for the problem. They claimed no issue.

After almost getting hit when the transmission jumped out of first pulling into traffic, I got rid of it and bought another Valkyrie. If the transmission would have been solid I would still have the bike. I ordered the bike out of Hinkley England. After waiting all winter for the bike, and the transmission issue, I was more than disappointed when I got rid of it.
Nice, I'm a proponent of making as much safe HP as it was designed to make, and using my wrist to control how much of it I use. When the R3 first came out, I was on great terms with local Turnip/Kawi dealership and the owner and I did a few rides where we swapped back and forth between my Valk and the dealership R3. Later when the Tourer came out, I was very surprised at the detuning they'd done. You really could tell the difference. Bummer about the transmission, I assume they have that sorted out on later models now? The only reason I didn't buy an R3 is that I already had the Valk & a 1L sportbike, and I would have had to give up the Valk since they were so similar and I was out of garage space.