Thanksgiving is not enjoyed by all

[Oss]

A bill pending is Bridging Agency Data Gaps and Ensuring Safety (BADGES) for Native Communities Act.

If you could spare a moment to email your house and senate representatives it would help perhaps untold thousands of native american women who are victims of violence, mayhem, kidnapping and murder.   According to statistics not even half of the violence is from native americans but those of us who are NOT.  I was surprised to learn that and dissapointed in myself to have expected otherwise

Here is a link, it just takes a moment to send a few emails

https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/news/press-releases/udall-leads-bipartisan-group-of-indian-affairs-committee-senators-in-introducing-legislation-to-address-law-enforcement-public-safety-needs-in-native-communities

Thank you

Oss

[Willow]

I think tribal law enforcement should have access to other criminal policing agencies' data.

For the record a native American is one who is born in America.  Most of us are native Americans.

[DirtyDan]

I was born in Newark NJ ..........

Dan

[Gavin_Sons]

I think tribal law enforcement should have access to other criminal policing agencies' data.

For the record a native American is one who is born in America.  Most of us are native Americans.

I think your definition and the real definition of Native American are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Are most of us really Native? I think most of us are descendants of immigrants thus not including us in the Native American definition.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I think tribal law enforcement should have access to other criminal policing agencies' data.

For the record a native American is one who is born in America.  Most of us are native Americans.

I think your definition and the real definition of Native American are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Are most of us really Native? I think most of us are descendants of immigrants thus not including us in the Native American definition.

It's the difference between native American and Native American.

[Willow]

I think tribal law enforcement should have access to other criminal policing agencies' data.

For the record a native American is one who is born in America.  Most of us are native Americans.

I think your definition and the real definition of Native American are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Are most of us really Native? I think most of us are descendants of immigrants thus not including us in the Native American definition.

Native by definition refers to where you were born, not where your ancestors came from.

Interestingly most Indians don't like to be called Native Americans.  While it's true that Indian is a term applied by Europeans so is America.  The Comanche referred to themselves as "the people."  That's what Comanche means.  I wonder what does that make the rest of us?

[bscrive]

I think tribal law enforcement should have access to other criminal policing agencies' data.

For the record a native American is one who is born in America.  Most of us are native Americans.

I think your definition and the real definition of Native American are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Are most of us really Native? I think most of us are descendants of immigrants thus not including us in the Native American definition.

Native by definition refers to where you were born, not where your ancestors came from.

Interestingly most Indians don't like to be called Native Americans.  While it's true that Indian is a term applied by Europeans so is America.  The Comanche referred to themselves as "the people."  That's what Comanche means.  I wonder what does that make the rest of us?

Not "the people"...

[Oss]

I had heard that the Cheyenne were the human beings or the people, or maybe that is just something I picked up from watching
LITTLE BIG MAN as a young person

When any group is viewed as less than ourselves the result is never good as we are all of the earth...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQAC-3j1S84

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.  We had Alana and my granddaughter sleep over last night along with my sister in law.   No drama here  as the little one is teething    

[RP#62]

Not that it's necessarily about ancestors, but the Native Americans' ancestors came here from Asia. 

-RP

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not that it's necessarily about ancestors, but the Native Americans' ancestors came here from Asia. 

-RP

And the Asian ancestors came out of Africa. (Maybe we are all Watusi's ?) 

[Willow]

...
When any group is viewed as less than ourselves the result is never good as we are all of the earth...
...

It's worked out to the good for me.  I'm often thankful that I am not like some of those inferior groups.      I guess you don't have that important German Choctaw mix.   

[Pappy!]

About the only way I see us regarding each other as equals is to quit referring to ourselves as "Asian" Americans, "Mexican" Americans, "African" Americans, etc.
We are all Americans....period! Once there we can move on.

[9Ball]

I was born in Newark NJ ..........

Dan

Third world countries don't count....

[carolinarider09]

Who was here first?

The most enduring mystery of the Clovis people is their origin. Genetic and linguistic tests of modern Amerindian peoples suggests an ancestral connection to Siberia and Mongolia. 

https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-the-clovis-culture-significance-timeline-extinction.html

However,  "Humans were present in North America at least one thousand years before Clovis and these earlier peoples probably had no technological or genetic similarity to the iconic Clovis Culture," adds the prof's colleague Thomas Stafford. "The Clovis First debate has ended. The theory is now dead and buried." "

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/13/clovis_not_first_says_paisley_caves_excrement/

The notion of  using the term "Native Americans" is ludicrous.  Its just a name given to a group that was here when the next group arrived. 

As someone else said, a "Native American" is someone who was born in America.  We, those who were born here, are "native Americans". 

[carolinarider09]

Two stories of Thanksiving

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/11/21/the-true-story-of-thanksgiving-2/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/thanksgiving-myths-fact-check.html

[Oss]

Pappy I agree

There is a plus  + sign and a minus - sign

Why would anyone diminish their being an American if they are proud to be an American is beyond me

Say instead I am an American.  My ancestors came from where ever the hell they came from.  Your religion is nobody's business unless you make it so as is where your ancestors came from

But I am different that way. and unabashedly so

[3fan4life]

About the only way I see us regarding each other as equals is to quit referring to ourselves as "Asian" Americans, "Mexican" Americans, "African" Americans, etc.
We are all Americans....period! Once there we can move on.

I've never understood putting anything in front of American.

I'm proud of my ancestry, but first and foremost I am an American.

Why would anyone who had the good fortune of being born in the USA want to identify themselves as anything else?

[shortleg]

Squonto. the Indian that worked with the Pilgrims had a very interesting llife.
   He was captured  and was enslaved  and served  time in Spain.
      Some how he was with Monks that set him free and he ends up inEngland.
   Where he makes his way back to his tribe in America.
     Can you imagine what it was like to have a Native American come out
of the Forrest  speaking the Kings english ,show you how stupid you were.
    First I know I may have a few words spelled wrong and a few facts backwards.
      But for the most part that the way it was.

[RP#62]

Well, as an African-American (my ancestors came here from Africa, after first having spent a couple of thousand years in western Europe and Scotland), I thank my lucky stars that they found their way to this country.  I don't care what circumstance caused that to happen, I'm just very thankful of the result.

-RP

[MarkT]

Geez I must be Swiss-American since I was born in Geneva when my folks were there helping recover the peoples and churches and so on from the Nazi destruction.  Does that make me special?  Or just mean I can't be prez.  Oh wait...

[Tx Bohemian]

About the only way I see us regarding each other as equals is to quit referring to ourselves as "Asian" Americans, "Mexican" Americans, "African" Americans, etc.
We are all Americans....period! Once there we can move on.

I've never understood putting anything in front of American.

I'm proud of my ancestry, but first and foremost I am an American.

Why would anyone who had the good fortune of being born in the USA want to identify themselves as anything else?

I totally agree with both comments here!
Especially the "Why would anyone who had the good fortune of being born in the USA want to identify themselves as anything else?" question.

I always thought that the "hyphened-American" just divides us more!