Headline from the 9th Circuit

[carolinarider09]

Headline "9th Circuit Court: Allowing California Churches to Open Is a 'Suicide Pact."

Its for your own safety

Does that sound familiar?

Excerpts from article

A three-judge panel on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Newsom's March lockdown order, basically saying they couldn't trust Christians to follow the rules and gather without getting someone sick, therefore allowing them to open would be tantamount to allowing churches to enter into a "suicide pact."

We're dealing here with a highly contagious and often fatal disease for which there presently is no known cure. In the words of Justice Robert Jackson, if a "[c]ourt does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact."

Where state action does not "infringe upon or restrict practices because of their religious motivation" and does not "in a selective manner impose burdens only on conduct motivated by religious belief," it does not violate the First Amendment. [...]

As a threshold matter, the State contends that, in light of the ongoing pandemic, the constitutional standards that would normally govern our review of a Free Exercise claim should not be applied. "Although the Constitution is not suspended during a state of emergency," the State tells us, "constitutional rights may be reasonably restricted 'as the safety of the general public may demand'"

Full article here.  I have not independently fact checked the report. However, it sounds like something the 9th Circuit would do.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/05/24/9th-circuit-court-allowing-california-churches-to-open-is-a-suicide-pact-n423568

[Oss]

ONLY ONE THING TO DO IF YOU LIVE THERE

DISREGARD THE ORDER and hope to be arrested so you can challenge it

It is unconstitutional and the SCOTUS will once again have to spank them like
the little rats pissants that they are

No state can trifle with the 10 amendments and get away with it, unless we let them

[carolinarider09]

You are correct Oss. 

And I have verified it with a second source

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/24/9th-circuit-court-upholds-california-ban-person-ch/

https://ktla.com/news/california/court-upholds-newsoms-ban-on-in-person-church-services-in-california/

[JFaje1]

I know no one here will read all of this, but it is interesting. Such disregard for the Constitution.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139

John

[Robert]

Trump has already declared that churches should open and openly said he will be on the side of the churches if they restrict attendance.


Firing a Salvo in Culture Wars, Trump Pushes for Churches to Reopen
President Trump threatened to overrule states that refuse to open places of worship. The White House could not explain how he has that power, and legal experts said he did not have such authority.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/trump-churches-coronavirus.html

[Willow]

I know no one here will read all of this, but it is interesting. Such disregard for the Constitution.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139   

You were correct.  I got a few sentences in to decide it was a bullshit article.

[Willow]

Headline "9th Circuit Court: Allowing California Churches to Open Is a 'Suicide Pact."
...

A suicide pact?  From fear of a disease of which 99.7% of its victims survive?  A bit of an overstatement wouldn't you say?   

[Serk]

A bit of an overstatement wouldn't you say?   

[Valkorado]

9th Circuit Court, exercising their omnipotent powers yet again.  They have a knack for incessant legislation of sheer idiocy.  They've done it again.    

[Oss]

Never has a court proven so often it is the court of insane opinions

A great reason to never again visit the west coast IMHO but I will have to be there in late October for a nephew's wedding

SF is a disgusting place where people can defecate in the street but can not worship

Portland is little better from my last visits and parts of Seattle are full of homeless wanttobeentitled people just getting high.

And they vote. and they want illegal non citizens to vote

I could not stomach the video either

[old2soon]

        What's next? where what and when we can drive-eat-live? What else-what and how we dress? Last time that happened for me I was in The U S Navy. Course The Navy had no problem with me motocrossing. Yet bars and pot shops and gittin yer hair done be okey dokey.  Maybe time to disband the 9th circuit? Can that be done? RIDE SAFE.

[3fan4life]

        What's next? where what and when we can drive-eat-live? What else-what and how we dress? Last time that happened for me I was in The U S Navy. Course The Navy had no problem with me motocrossing. Yet bars and pot shops and gittin yer hair done be okey dokey.  Maybe time to disband the 9th circuit? Can that be done? RIDE SAFE.

I doubt it.

But, if we give Trump 4 more years and Mike Pence 8 years, maybe enough of the judges will have been replaced to change it for the better.

[carolinarider09]

Update:

California Church Banned from Holding Services Appeals to US Supreme Court

From the article:

California is one of the last states to continue banning in-person religious services and now one church has taken that prohibition all the way to the US Supreme Court.

The South Bay Pentecostal Church in Chula Vista has asked the high court to issue an emergency injunction against California's governor.  

The church's attorneys said in a statement this weekend they want the justices to command Gov. Gavin Newsom "to cease and desist his biased shutdown of religious worship in California, in blatant violation of the First Amendment's constitutional guarantee that citizens may freely exercise their religious faith."

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/may/california-church-banned-from-holding-services-appeals-to-us-supreme-court

Fixed link.

[Oss]

Seriously I will pray nightly that the SCOTUS puts an end to this madness of denial of
religious assembly

I would humbly ask all who go to or belong to a church to do the same

[old2soon]

       Isn't Religious persecution and denial of Religion a cornerstone of the n w o? Unless yer mooslim? RIDE SAFE.

[shadowsoftime]

Headline "9th Circuit Court: Allowing California Churches to Open Is a 'Suicide Pact."
...

A suicide pact?  From fear of a disease of which 99.7% of its victims survive?  A bit of an overstatement wouldn't you say?   

at 99.7 recovery,this virus is a total scam on the people.

[DirtyDan]

Headline "9th Circuit Court: Allowing California Churches to Open Is a 'Suicide Pact."
...

A suicide pact?  From fear of a disease of which 99.7% of its victims survive?  A bit of an overstatement wouldn't you say?   

at 99.7 recovery,this virus is a total scam on the people.

+1

Dan

[Valkorado]

Headline "9th Circuit Court: Allowing California Churches to Open Is a 'Suicide Pact."
...

A suicide pact?  From fear of a disease of which 99.7% of its victims survive?  A bit of an overstatement wouldn't you say?   

at 99.7 recovery,this virus is a total scam on the people.

Mandated lockdowns are overreach, but I'm confident the virus is no scam.  So were the people who got it and died, and the people who tried to save them.

[carolinarider09]

The answer is sort of straight forward.  Its called anything to stop success.

Just some links to articles. 

https://spectator.org/coronavirus-statistical-stupidity/

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/16/how-did-the-coronavirus-models-get-everything-so-wrong/

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-man-spooked-world-coronavirus-model-walks-back-prediction/

Current CDC Information on deaths related to COVID19

Website One - 75,283
Website Two - 97,669

Related to US Population in 1968

45,626
58,601

Related to US Population in 1957

41,121
52,741

Note:  Due to increases in population density, the numbers cannot be assumed to be as linear as I have portrayed.  It is expected that any disease that spreads by human to human contact or close environmental contact will have an increased spread as human population density increases.