A few pics of the near completed front wheel/brake bling

[mello dude]

Got the front wheel on with the blinged out brake calipers, plus the Spiegler lines....
A few pics....

[mello dude]

Couple thoughts... .
I went waaay out of my way to duplicate the brake lines with Spiegler steel and in retrospect,
not 100% pleased the way it turned out, would do it different if there was a next time...

Wondering if there is too much shiney stuff going on. Another maybe next time, to anadize the center of the rotor red...

Generally happy another step is done on this thing   

[hubcapsc]

Looks real good from here... you're going to leave off the little
chrome brake line holders?



-Mike

[mello dude]

The SS lines are so stiff the line holders twist the things the wrong way, and would ding up the paint too. So, yeah, leaving them off. I will see how it goes, if needed, I think I will fab some holders that work better.
I would do the lines all over if the things weren't so pricey.. but I have too much $ in them already...

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

Looks great, but I don't think I could ever do that. I couldn't stand having to keep that looking that good.

Again, nice work.

[CoreyP]

Wondering if there is too much shiney stuff going on. Another maybe next time, to anadize the center of the rotor red...
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I think that might look better but who knows? You have the chromed out look with a little color, not sure if the center being colored would be a little over the top? That's the problem with customizing things, you don't really know until you do it.

Black may be better, flat black if possible. Break up the chrome.

Not sure flat would work now that I think about it? LOL. Might be wise to use a photo printer to print off colors you might use then cut and tape it over the part you want to change. Cheap way to get a visual.      

[mello dude]

Wondering if there is too much shiney stuff going on. Another maybe next time, to anadize the center of the rotor red...
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I think that might look better but who knows? You have the chromed out look with a little color, not sure if the center being colored would be a little over the top? That's the problem with customizing things, you don't really know until you do it.

Black may be better, flat black if possible. Break up the chrome.

Not sure flat would work now that I think about it? LOL. Might be wise to use a photo printer to print off colors you might use then cut and tape it over the part you want to change. Cheap way to get a visual.      

Thats the problem when you are chasing perfection.. there's always "what if?' and you never know if you really like it until its put together... on the red rotor centers.. thats kinda why I did the red brake banjo, the red would go with that.. Or.... or... or.... maybe... lol.... its madness  

[steveB (VRCC UK)]

Put the brake line holders on Mello (or fab some from stainless) the lines will abrade your paint in short order. It's particularly annoying on custom paint with multiple layers of clear (don't ask me how I know).

[mello dude]

Put the brake line holders on Mello (or fab some from stainless) the lines will abrade your paint in short order. It's particularly annoying on custom paint with multiple layers of clear (don't ask me how I know).

Thanks for the tip.

[Bagger John - #3785]

I went the opposite way on my '01 I/S and blacked everything out. Including a set of Unobtanium(TM) Hondaline lower fork covers and Show Chrome radiused caliper covers.

Only things left to do are to get another set of wheels, black them out then order a set of rotors with black carriers and swap the front end around.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The SS lines are so stiff the line holders twist the things the wrong way, and would ding up the paint too. So, yeah, leaving them off. I will see how it goes, if needed, I think I will fab some holders that work better.
I would do the lines all over if the things weren't so pricey.. but I have too much $ in them already...

What I'm worried about is that it doesn't look like there is enough slack in the brake line. It looks like if the bike was raised, or the forks extended going over a rise, that it could put tension on the line.

[mello dude]

The SS lines are so stiff the line holders twist the things the wrong way, and would ding up the paint too. So, yeah, leaving them off. I will see how it goes, if needed, I think I will fab some holders that work better.
I would do the lines all over if the things weren't so pricey.. but I have too much $ in them already...

What I'm worried about is that it doesn't look like there is enough slack in the brake line. It looks like if the bike was raised, or the forks extended going over a rise, that it could put tension on the line.

You can't tell by the photos, but the forks are fully extended and the wheel is about a half inch off the ground, so the lines are at max extension too.

But you're right, I am stressing over the !ines... wondering if there is enough play in the whole deal. That's the trouble in going custom on things. Sometimes the results screw the functionality. Dunno if I should throw on the OEM.
Also did one for the clutch and after a good bleed the clutch doesn't seem to be functioning well.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The SS lines are so stiff the line holders twist the things the wrong way, and would ding up the paint too. So, yeah, leaving them off. I will see how it goes, if needed, I think I will fab some holders that work better.
I would do the lines all over if the things weren't so pricey.. but I have too much $ in them already...

What I'm worried about is that it doesn't look like there is enough slack in the brake line. It looks like if the bike was raised, or the forks extended going over a rise, that it could put tension on the line.

You can't tell by the photos, but the forks are fully extended and the wheel is about a half inch off the ground, so the lines are at max extension too.

But you're right, I am stressing over the !ines... wondering if there is enough play in the whole deal. That's the trouble in going custom on things. Sometimes the results screw the functionality. Dunno if I should throw on the OEM.
Also did one for the clutch and after a good bleed the clutch doesn't seem to be functioning well.

I didn't realize that. In that case you should be fine.  (I think steveB makes sense on the holders)

[steveB (VRCC UK)]

Mello you're stressing again, that look's about how mine look when jacked up. Fitted mine in 03 and still going strong. BTW my lines came from HEL (here in the UK) very easy people to deal with and they give a lifetime warranty, plus loads of fittings, colours and finishes.

[mello dude]

Mello you're stressing again, that look's about how mine look when jacked up. Fitted mine in 03 and still going strong. BTW my lines came from HEL (here in the UK) very easy people to deal with and they give a lifetime warranty, plus loads of fittings, colours and finishes.

Lol, stressing is what I do.... hey what does your line hold down bracket look like? Pic?

I am thinking about having to do another fab job....

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Posted this earlier but poof, its gone.

Are the rotors chromed?

[mello dude]

Posted this earlier but poof, its gone.

Are the rotors chromed?

No, rotors are polished...
New GW btw...

[mello dude]

I'm kinda at throw on the OEM for now, just to move forward. My head is spinning on the hold down thing. What would the right part look like?  All the movement on the fork is on the lower part and there's near no room for movement on the lines.... aaaaahhhh !!! Another design.....

I just need to get it on the road, I'm kinda burnt on the whole thing......

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm kinda at throw on the OEM for now, just to move forward. My head is spinning on the hold down thing. What would the right part look like?  All the movement on the fork is on the lower part and there's near no room for movement on the lines.... aaaaahhhh !!! Another design.....

I just need to get it on the road, I'm kinda burnt on the whole thing......

I'm not sure why the OEM holders won't work. I have braided lines with the OEM holders.

[f6john]

Mello, can you give us a complete rundown on the front end? What's polished, what's chrome, what's stock, aftermarket, crossbred ect. I like the look!

[msb]

Wondering if there is too much shiney stuff going on. Another maybe next time, to anadize the center of the rotor red...

There can NEVER be enough shiny stuff going on with these bikes as far as I'm concerned. Looks beautiful...nice job

[gordonv]

Thats the problem when you are chasing perfection.. there's always "what if?' and you never know if you really like it until its put together... on the red rotor centers.. thats kinda why I did the red brake banjo, the red would go with that.. Or.... or... or.... maybe... lol.... its madness  

Looks great. But I'm scared of all that shinny stuff. 

As for how it would look, I wish I could alter pictures like I know others on this forum can do. Take a picture and then colour what you want, and see how it looks before doing the job.

[pokrovsky]

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Hey Mello,

How come you didn't get the speedo cable carrier/bracket chromed?!?!  ??? ??? ???

[mello dude]

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Ha ha...  

For grins, throwing a rear pic to show the match front/rear.... bike is finally coming together...  

[mello dude]

I'm kinda at throw on the OEM for now, just to move forward. My head is spinning on the hold down thing. What would the right part look like?  All the movement on the fork is on the lower part and there's near no room for movement on the lines.... aaaaahhhh !!! Another design.....

I just need to get it on the road, I'm kinda burnt on the whole thing......

I'm not sure why the OEM holders won't work. I have braided lines with the OEM holders.

Show a pic?

[h13man]

Looks great, but I don't think I could ever do that. I couldn't stand having to keep that looking that good.

Again, nice work.

Plus 1 but it damn sure looks beautiful! Good job! I like red accents on my bike. My grill I painted to match the pinstripe and plug wires are clear red. Pearl Silver/Black offers itself to alot of different color pallets.

[f-Stop]

"Looks dope!"  That's what my son said who's a sophomore at Texas State.

I think it looks rad.

[gordonv]

"Looks dope!"  That's what my son said who's a sophomore at Texas State.

I think it looks rad.

And I thought it looked Cool Man!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm kinda at throw on the OEM for now, just to move forward. My head is spinning on the hold down thing. What would the right part look like?  All the movement on the fork is on the lower part and there's near no room for movement on the lines.... aaaaahhhh !!! Another design.....

I just need to get it on the road, I'm kinda burnt on the whole thing......

I'm not sure why the OEM holders won't work. I have braided lines with the OEM holders.

Show a pic?

[Bighead]

Meat that fender looks a might dusty

[The emperor has no clothes]

Meat that fender looks a might dusty

It is. I've been carpentering in the garage. Sawdust gets everywhere.

[steveB (VRCC UK)]

Mello - give me a step by step guide to posting pics - I'll show you how my lines look in a jacked position.

[mello dude]

Mello - give me a step by step guide to posting pics - I'll show you how my lines look in a jacked position.

You need to set up an account with a photo host site. Photobucket used to be the place to go, but they hosed everyone with demanding money to keep their photos. I think most guys here are using PostImage and is a free site.  Someone else here will have to help you with that.

Since I am somewhat a photo post addict on many forums,  I use a pay site, Smugmug. It gives me full control over my photos and what happens with them, plus I can organize them any way I want.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Hey Mike, just to clarify a little bit. The fender clamps on my IS with the braided lines aren't snugging up on the lines. The braided lines are in there loosely allowing them to slide thru with movement of the forks. They just hold them out from the fender, to keep them from rubbing. The stock lines have a rubber snugging them up. I imagine a rubber snugger could also be used on the braided lines. But they are a lot stiffer and resist this.

[mello dude]

Hey Mike, just to clarify a little bit. The fender clamps on my IS with the braided lines aren't snugging up on the lines. The braided lines are in there loosely allowing them to slide thru with movement of the forks. They just hold them out from the fender, to keep them from rubbing. The stock lines have a rubber snugging them up. I imagine a rubber snugger could also be used on the braided lines. But they are a lot stiffer and resist this.

Back at it..... So I'm looking at the Spiegler grommets an they dont slide on the lines at all. Then glancing at the OEM parts and they are considerably larger dia...


My concern on this whole thing is that the suspension movement is from the bottom of the fork, and needs brake line slack to be functional.. and the stiff SS lines are not helping that.... Or am I overthinking again?  

Taking the OEM gromment and slipping it over the SS lines there is room for play....

[mello dude]

So mounting it all up..
Right


Left


I am thinking for now the right may be ok, there's a bend in it. The left is shorter for whatever mistake reason I did, but not much room going on.  Crazy me, I may make another line thats longer. I am going to be watchin this like a hawk.

For the moment I'm done screwing with it.. .I'm doing the bleed job, (lots of fun with bone dry system) and tank goes on next.

[mello dude]

May as well show the up front plumbing.  I dont think I would do it again this way... Its not helping the stiffness issue.

[The emperor has no clothes]

There should be no more extension from what you had with the bike lifted off the ground. I think you are fine.  

[mello dude]

There should be no more extension from what you had with the bike lifted off the ground. I think you are fine.  

I do appreciate your feedback and everyone else's comment too.

Thank you all.