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h13man

Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.

F6Dave

Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

Mooskee

Quotehttps://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html#5

Thanks for that link. I put a PDF of that info in my Valkyrie file.
Valkyrie Carbs and Custom www.valkyriecarbsandcustom.com

Grandpot

K&N has a good looking chrome filter.  I have to special order it at local autoparts store. Normally get it next day.  Part number, KN 303C.
:crazy2: Experience is recognizing the same mistake every time you make it.:crazy2:

Ken aka Oil Burner

Quote from: Grandpot on Sat 30, Jan 2021, 17:49:27
K&N has a good looking chrome filter.  I have to special order it at local autoparts store. Normally get it next day.  Part number, KN 303C.

If you buy the K+N, tighten it by hand only. Don't use a wrench on the welded-on nut to install it. Awhile back, there were several K+N housing failures. The general consensus was that they failed at the spot welds because people used wrenches or sockets to install them. Light fractures to the spot welds didn't leak immediately, but over time caused the cases to split open.

I'm not saying not to use the K+N. I sell Amsoil stuff but I don't push it or disparage the competitors.

f-Stop

I've used the Amsoil filters for years, but my reasonably priced Amsoil supplier shut down due to covid (he's back open now).  So while we were all shut down, I searched online for a filter and ended up with the Honda oil filter (plus, Mobil 1 synthetic) due to pricing.

Anyway...

Any pluses or minuses associated with the OEM filters?  I always figure the Honda engineers are pretty smart.
 
Had my blinker on across three states!

Mikerthebiker

Honda doesn't manufacture oil filters. Like everyone else, they farm it out to the lowest bidder. Enjoy your Chinese filter!

Jess from VA

I understand the Honda filters have the check valve, whoever makes them.

cookiedough

Quote from: Grandpot on Sat 30, Jan 2021, 17:49:27
K&N has a good looking chrome filter.  I have to special order it at local autoparts store. Normally get it next day.  Part number, KN 303C.

If you like KN303 non chrome being black,  save about 4-5 bucks and get the hi-flo HF 303 same exact thing for around 8 or 9 bucks.  Use HI-FLO mfg. for all my cycles and ATV's for over a decade.  NO sense wasting 5 bucks on an oil filter that is identical especially if changing it once every year.


h13man

Use to get Bosch for $5 everyday @ Menards but they discontinued carry them as of late. $7 @ Autozone and most other auto stores.

F6Dave

Quote from: h13man on Sun 21, Feb 2021, 07:43:45
Use to get Bosch for $5 everyday @ Menards but they discontinued carry them as of late. $7 @ Autozone and most other auto stores.
I wish there was a Menards around here. They have an amazing variety.

98valk

Quote from: Mikerthebiker on Sun 07, Feb 2021, 18:39:35
Honda doesn't manufacture oil filters. Like everyone else, they farm it out to the lowest bidder. Enjoy your Chinese filter!


Honda: Japan - Toyo Roki US - Filtech (subsidiary of Toyo Roki)
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

h13man

Quote from: F6Dave on Sun 21, Feb 2021, 10:06:25
Quote from: h13man on Sun 21, Feb 2021, 07:43:45
Use to get Bosch for $5 everyday @ Menards but they discontinued carry them as of late. $7 @ Autozone and most other auto stores.
I wish there was a Menards around here. They have an amazing variety.

Yes they do and good price's over Lowe's, Home Depot, Do It Yourself, Ace, or whatever local variant home supply store. Most the time all use the "same supplier" of product but Menards price's are usually much lower. I just bought 6 qts. Shell Formula oil for the truck @ $12 thus less than Wally charges for Supertech oil. (Made by Valvoline?) I'm usually in their store @ least once a week on average. About the only exception is I use H Depot for treated lumber source for special projects.

Gideon

Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk, and not faint.  Isaiah 40:31

98valk

I use an oversized PureOne PL14459. larger dia, same length as OEM

Mann+Hummel now has full ownership of Purolator.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

F6Dave

Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 12:09:49
Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
There were problems with the filter media tearing.  Filter fanatics who cut them open for inspection found many examples.  There's more info on BobIsTheOilGuy and other forums.

Gideon

Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 14:15:45
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 12:09:49
Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
There were problems with the filter media tearing.  Filter fanatics who cut them open for inspection found many examples.  There's more info on BobIsTheOilGuy and other forums.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it, have used PureOne for years.
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk, and not faint.  Isaiah 40:31

F6Dave

Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 16:45:45
Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 14:15:45
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 12:09:49
Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
There were problems with the filter media tearing.  Filter fanatics who cut them open for inspection found many examples.  There's more info on BobIsTheOilGuy and other forums.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it, have used PureOne for years.
I used them in every vehicle I owned except my old BMW airhead that uses a cartridge filter.  I became concerned when I read a test that found the Pure One's dense media caused more of a pressure drop than other filters.  Then when I read about the torn media I started looking for an alternative.

98valk

Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 19:39:18
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 16:45:45
Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 14:15:45
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 12:09:49
Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
There were problems with the filter media tearing.  Filter fanatics who cut them open for inspection found many examples.  There's more info on BobIsTheOilGuy and other forums.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it, have used PureOne for years.
I used them in every vehicle I owned except my old BMW airhead that uses a cartridge filter.  I became concerned when I read a test that found the Pure One's dense media caused more of a pressure drop than other filters.  Then when I read about the torn media I started looking for an alternative.

that's why I use an oversized Pure one. I have an autometer oil pressure gage installed.
only time I noticed a difference btwn this one and an oem size filter is when the oil is still below 150F.  with the oem size filter the gage will show higher pressure at higher RPMs until the oil gets to 150-170F whereas the Pure one will show lower pressure at 150F. this indicates to me that the oem is in bypass mode longer than the pure one.
I'm pretty sure that is what I'm seeing.
what do u think?

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

F6Dave

Quote from: 98valk on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 20:03:04
Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 19:39:18
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 16:45:45
Quote from: F6Dave on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 14:15:45
Quote from: Gideon on Mon 22, Feb 2021, 12:09:49
Quote from: F6Dave on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 20:05:54
Quote from: h13man on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 08:30:05
Been using the Bosch #3323 long filter for about 10 yrs. now. Use to use Supertech but Walmart discontinued them for a while thus I replaced them with Bosch.  Walmart reintroduced them using a different manufacture assumedly. The original was made by Champion.
I've switched to the Bosch filters too.  I used Pure One filters for years but Purolator was purchased by someone else, and they also had some quality issues that concerned me.

I have wondered who makes the current Supertech filters but haven't researched it.  They look like a quality product.

What quality issues did Purolator Pure One have? Inquiring minds want to know!
There were problems with the filter media tearing.  Filter fanatics who cut them open for inspection found many examples.  There's more info on BobIsTheOilGuy and other forums.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it, have used PureOne for years.
I used them in every vehicle I owned except my old BMW airhead that uses a cartridge filter.  I became concerned when I read a test that found the Pure One's dense media caused more of a pressure drop than other filters.  Then when I read about the torn media I started looking for an alternative.

that's why I use an oversized Pure one. I have an autometer oil pressure gage installed.
only time I noticed a difference btwn this one and an oem size filter is when the oil is still below 150F.  with the oem size filter the gage will show higher pressure at higher RPMs until the oil gets to 150-170F whereas the Pure one will show lower pressure at 150F. this indicates to me that the oem is in bypass mode longer than the pure one.
I'm pretty sure that is what I'm seeing.
what do u think?


That sounds reasonable.  One wild card is that in many of those tests where they cut open a filter and measure the media, the larger canisters do not always contain more media.  I wonder how much difference the oil's base viscosity makes?

Now if you get one of these Purolators with torn media you'll always be in bypass mode!

98valk

"the larger canisters do not always contain more media. "

I've seen that with some longer filters, which is why the larger diameter one I use actually has more filter material.  It's a common size.

here is the wix #
https://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Exactmatch.aspx?PartNo=pl14459
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798