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Yee-Ha an oil question

Started by .., Wed 25, May 2022, 14:14:54

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3W-lonerider

my thoughts are no. that writing in the bottom of that circle that says resourse conserving. tells me there are friction modifiers in it. not good for the clutch.

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Quote from: 3W-lonerider on Wed 25, May 2022, 14:32:14
my thoughts are no. that writing in the bottom of that circle that says resourse conserving. tells me there are friction modifiers in it. not good for the clutch.

What I was thinking.

six2go #152

Quote from: 3W-lonerider on Wed 25, May 2022, 14:32:14
my thoughts are no. that writing in the bottom of that circle that says resourse conserving. tells me there are friction modifiers in it. not good for the clutch.
I wouldn't, for the above reason plus it's not the correct viscosity recommended by Honda for the 1800.

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Quote from: six2go #152 on Wed 25, May 2022, 14:39:16
Quote from: 3W-lonerider on Wed 25, May 2022, 14:32:14
my thoughts are no. that writing in the bottom of that circle that says resourse conserving. tells me there are friction modifiers in it. not good for the clutch.
I wouldn't, for the above reason plus it's not the correct viscosity recommended by Honda for the 1800.

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https://cdn.powersports.honda.com/documentum/MWOM/ml.remawmom.2014_31mjr600_gl1800c_a_valkyrie.pdf

I'll use it in the family vehicles as needed.

h13man

Resource/Energy Conserving, NO. The API circle with no info in the bottom of ring, maybe as there are oils still on the shelf for pre 80's applications believe or not in 10w-40. Usually oil is described to be MC oil. Diesel oil will work but changes made by EPA in 2017 it can be different depending on one's ability to notice changes in shifting/tranny noise. This is what occurred after I ran pre 17' Rotella T6 for 10 yr. and then using post 17' variety. I suggest running MC oil thus $7+ a quart for Honda GN-4 dino will be a minimum price for good MC oil. I changed to Valvoline dino and it broke down @ 3,500 mi. thus I'm using Mobil 1 syn. w/o no issues so far. I can only speak from my experience only.

rug_burn

    I been using Mobil 1 15-50 for years, no complaints.   $25 for 5 qts at Walmart.
    In fact-  I usually run mine to about 15k to 20k miles, and the oil still has body, not broken down, and is not saturated with contaminents; but I change it anyway...
   But, that's just me..
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Roadog

 I run Amsoil 10 W 40 motorcycle specific . Conrains No friction midefiers , safe for wet clutches. 10 years no issues .

rug_burn

Wet disc clutches never seem to wear out (rivet issues notwithstanding)... I wouldn't worry about it too much, and I'd use the oil.   Maybe just one quart out of 4 or something like that if you're still concerned.
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Grandpot

Energy Conserving oils typically contain phosphorus, which is a friction modifier.  It can cause the clutch to slip.  Some users experience this problem, some don't.  To be on the safe side, don't use Energy Conserving oils.
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Quote from: Grandpot on Wed 01, Jun 2022, 14:02:14
Energy Conserving oils typically contain phosphorus, which is a friction modifier.  It can cause the clutch to slip.  Some users experience this problem, some don't.  To be on the safe side, don't use Energy Conserving oils.

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