B52 crash

[f6john]

I'm curious about the photos of the B52 crash in California. There is nothing left except a smoldering black spot on the ground! Maybe they're just not showing the entire crash site? Maybe because it's a military aircraft they're not showing all the wreckage. It's just sort of puzzling to me.

[Hook#3287]

I believe because it was during take off, fuel supply was high and after the crash, the frame just burned up.

Even if they are pictures of the jet right after the crash, the military is not going to release them until or unless they are considered safe to do so.

I'm concerned the whole fleet will be under oversight now, limiting the use.

[Jersey mike]

What a horrible thing to happen. Yesterday and this morning I was looking at the photos and boy it must have been just a gigantic eruption, God bless the flight crew and their families. I don't know how many gallons of fuel the B52 carries and I have to guess it was fully loaded with fuel, the flames must have been intense because there's nothing left.

[Serk]

Plane crashes can be incredibly violent, I wouldn't be surprised if that really is all that's left of the BUFF and her crew.

There was recently a skydiving plane crash outside Kansas City, 12 souls lost (11 jumpers + pilot)
(That she knows of so far Tarynn had at least one friend and person she'd jumped with lost.)

I was telling the spousal unit the pics of the crash looked unreal. It looked more like an inflatable balloon in the shape of a plane had been deflated there.

Before:



After:



And just for comparison, here's the released pic of the B-52 crash remains:



...painful weekend in aviation no matter how ya' slice it. 

[old2soon]

    A typical B 52 holds 47975-Google-gals of fuel. Even IF the plane lifted off with only 25000 gals that is still a LOT of fuel. And recall large and small aircraft Military or Civil usually carry their fuel in the wings.Just viewed a video yesterday of a B 52 crash in Washington state from 1994-pilot error-and the only piece left of that bird was a very fire damaged tail section. That pilot from the 94 crash had a bad history of pushing beyond aircraft limits.
    ruptured fuel cells on crash impact extremely hot engine pieces flying eberywhere-think shrapnel-and just about all fuels will ignite in that scenario. I'd helped on clean up in Japan after a crash. I was also an aircraft mech. I recognized most of the parts I handled. The average person would NOT recognize those same parts. RIDE SAFE.

[old2soon]

    Again according to Google uncontained jet fuel burns between 800 F and 1500 F depending on weather conditions and how much the fuel is Vaporized. Typical aircraft aluminum burns between 1000 F and 2000 F. So sounds like with a fuel source and an ignition source what might have remained as an aircraft was not gonna happen. As grusome as it sounds I hope the crew pershied on impact. Whenever I flew Military or Commercial or Private I also wanted that same outcome should a crash happen. And B T W I Still hope that! RIDE SAFE.

[old2soon]

    Google AGAIN. The last B 52 H was built by Boeing on 26 Oct 1962 which means it IS the youngest one left IF she still survives. There have been a Lot of upgrades ove the years and some B 52s are currently being reenginned as the current engines are no longer manufactured nor are new parts for the older engines being manufactured. Provided not too many more crashes or combat losses occur the B 52 might be aroundfor over 100 years! NOTHING in the current Air Force inventory can match the B 52s weapons load carrying capacity. And sadly no more B 52s will eve ne built new from the ground up. When they are gone they are GONE FOREVER!    RIDE SAFE.

[f6john]

One of my favorite phrases, NEVER,say never. If the B52 platform is still viewed as a workhorse worthy of spending $billions to keep them flying and delivering the mail as it has been, why not turn it over to someone like Musk and Boeing and say show me what you can do. The plans, specs, and drawings must still exist, along with possibly newer, better, materials and construction methods, would deliver something to behold. JMHO.

[RP#62]

Very sad.

B-52 Crash

RP

[f6gal]

[Serk]

Guessing this was a test flight of some sort? The number of higher ranking personnel that were lost seems a big abnormal to me, but I could be very wrong on that too...

-Col. Gregory Watson, 53
-Lt. Col. Gabriel Estrella, 40
-Retired Lt. Col. Miles Middleton, 50
-Maj. Alexander Davis, 34
-Maj. Robert Dee, 40
-Maj. Brad Hovey, 35
-Flight test engineer Jeromy Smith, 32
-Flight test engineer Christopher Rischar, 41

[f6gal]

Guessing this was a test flight of some sort? The number of higher ranking personnel that were lost seems a big abnormal to me, but I could be very wrong on that too...

-Col. Gregory Watson, 53
-Lt. Col. Gabriel Estrella, 40
-Retired Lt. Col. Miles Middleton, 50
-Maj. Alexander Davis, 34
-Maj. Robert Dee, 40
-Maj. Brad Hovey, 35
-Flight test engineer Jeromy Smith, 32
-Flight test engineer Christopher Rischar, 41

2 of them were Boeing employees.