Politics: Obama to Fill Medicare and Medicaid Post Without Senate Approval

[Doc Moose]

Can't wait for free healthcare! Wha?  There's a waiting list?? 
 
This guy's a proponent of the British system, ohboy!  Okay if ya need a bandaid, otherwise SOL.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/president-medicare-medicaid-post-senate-approval/

"By appointing Berwick now, while Congress is out of session for the July 4 holiday break, Berwick can assume the post of administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services without undergoing confirmation hearings in the Senate. Democrats want to avoid a nasty confirmation fight that could reopen the health care debate. Berwick was nominated in April but no confirmation hearing had been scheduled."

Yeah, it's Fox news, but you don't find this on the creampuff networks.

Now that's transparency and democracy in action.

[Chrisj CMA]

Doc.......this is Obamas standard operating mode, he has more Czars operating in his administration than any before.....not properly vetted or confirmed.  He only cares that his agenda of scooping up money and power, then giving it to who he thinks will vote for him next time is supported.  The government needs a good house cleaning........senate too

Many will call us conspiracy therorists or worse for assuming Obama is up to no good, I refuse to argue with them that still support this guy.......if you argue with idiots they just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!  ???

[Craig N. AZ]

Why didn't you complain when George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments?  We also don't have Czars in our government just people too lazy to call them by their title.

[Chrisj CMA]

Why didn't you complain when George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments?  We also don't have Czars in our government just people too lazy to call them by their title.

This is not a partisan thing anymore.......GW Bush screwed things up too......he had progressives in his roost as well.  BUT>>>>hes NOT the pres anymore and Im really getting tired of people blaming Bush still for Obamas falures or mistakes, and justifing bad acts by saying well Bush did it..........I wouldnt have been happy with that then and am not now, they all (fed govnt) have been mostly crooks and thieves for years now, we need them cleaned outta there

[..]

Why didn't you complain when George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments?  We also don't have Czars in our government just people too lazy to call them by their title.

Bush did and guess what. HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDNET.

Was he perfect. NO, and guess what. HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDNET.

Find a record that isn't broken.

Why would one have to list all the new appointees by title? Why not have a method of illustrating the bloating of this Federal Government with a simple to use term?

OR does this make you feel better?

Title: Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy

Title: Director of Recovery for Auto Communities and Workers

Title: Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affa

Title: Deputy Interior Secretary

Title: Counselor to the Secretary of the Treasury

Title: Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for the Central Region (encompasses the Middle East, the Gulf, Afghanistan, Pakistan and South Asia)

Title: Special Envoy for Climate Change

Title: White House adviser on Violence Against Women

Title: Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy

Title: Chairman of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board

Title: Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change

Title: Director of the Office of Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Title: Chief Performance Officer

Title: Special advisor to the U.S. EPA overseeing its Great Lakes restoration plan

Title: Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality

Title: Special envoy to oversee the closure of the detention center at Guantanamo Bay

Title: Counselor to the President and Director of the White House Office of Health Reform

Title: Federal Chief Information Officer

Title: Director of National Intelligence

Title: Special Envoy for Middle East Peace

Title: Special Master on executive pay

Title: Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs

Title: Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisers on Science and Technology

Title: Chair of the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board

Title: Special Envoy to Sudan

Title: Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability

Title: Chief Technology Officer

Title: Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism

Title: White House Director of Urban Affairs

Title: Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics

Title: White House Coordinator for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Security and Arms Control

YOUR tax dolalrs at work

I'm sure in conversation you use the correct title every time.

Here's a list of Czars going way back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

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This new Medicaid/Medicare Czar will control a budget LARGER than the Defence budget.

[Scanner]

Why didn't you complain when George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments?  We also don't have Czars in our government just people too lazy to call them by their title.

[Bobbo]

Why didn't you complain when George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments?  We also don't have Czars in our government just people too lazy to call them by their title.

Bush did and guess what. HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDNET.

Was he perfect. NO, and guess what. HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDNET.

Find a record that isn't broken.

If I may, I will point out that Craig N. AZ was calling attention to the slight hypocrisy in many partisan posts.  When a member of a group complains that an opposing group is doing something wrong, it is common for the first group to be doing, or have done, the exact same thing.   Someone coined the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black", which would be fitting in this instance.

[czuch]

ALL NEW BUMS IN NOVEMBER.
btw I hate capslock

[Bobbo]

Your point is....................................what ?.............................  pointless.

How do you know what complaints were made by members of this forum when George was Presidente???

I guess it's as simple as checking the archives for Doc Moose's posts from 2001 to 2009.  Better yet, just ask Doc Moose.  Let me know when you find his or your posts complaining about recess appointments during that period.

[Bobbo]

I didn't make any and I do not believe that Bush was perfect in any way.

As to others posts. I guess I'm not a forum stalker cause I don't keep records. Do you?

psst I wasn't making any complaints about recess appointments. Just stating facts.

You can read whatever you need to into my written words.

PresBo has acted within Article 2, Section 2 of the US Constitution with his recess appointment. I keep a copy of the Declaration of Independenceand Constitution of the United States of America on my computer desk at all times since becoming a citizen in April of 2004.

Edit - Forgot to ask. Do you agree with PresBo's recent recess confirmation?

No, I don't keep forum records, and I doubt anyone else does since they are archived here somewhere...

I replied to your post because you were the latest to reply to the original poster, and it looked like his point was misunderstood.  I offered an explanation to the original post to help clarify it.

Congratulations, and welcome to the US, on becoming a citizen.  I also have a pocket edition of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution I keep handy.

My opinion of this particular recess appointment is neutral, and I am well aware that politics is dirty business.

[Black Pearl's Captain]

My opinion of this particular recess appointment is neutral, and I am well aware that politics is dirty business.

Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it BooBoo?

Raymond

[Bobbo]

My opinion of this particular recess appointment is neutral, and I am well aware that politics is dirty business.

Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it BooBoo?

Raymond

Is this another one of those non sequiturs?

[fat6man]

Hope we can all agree on one point....
                                  WE'RE IN DEEP SH!T
                                         Sooner are later if we don't get some honest people in
office.... Well IT WILL BE UP TO US TO TAKE BACK WHAT HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM US BY THIS CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT WE HAVE.

[Black Pearl's Captain]

My opinion of this particular recess appointment is neutral, and I am well aware that politics is dirty business.

Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it BooBoo?

Raymond

Is this another one of those non sequiturs?

Nope it was just the nicest way I could come up with to say that I think you're so full of crap.

[Skinhead]

My opinion of this particular recess appointment is neutral, and I am well aware that politics is dirty business.

Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it BooBoo?

Raymond

Is this another one of those non sequiturs?

Nope it was just the nicest way I could come up with to say that I think you're so full of crap.

[Bobbo]

Nope it was just the nicest way I could come up with to say that I think you're so full of crap.

Maybe if you posted something other than nonsensical snippets, you would be better understood.  Your opinion of me is of no consequence.

Do you have information that refutes anything I've posted, or are you just someone that resorts to name calling if they can't contribute to the conversation?

[x]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.

[Chrisj CMA]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.

ok SE....you'll be ok........as soon as you wake up and the koolaid wears off.......I think the only ones that can agree with you that he is the best president to come along are the illegal Mexicans that stand to become instant citizens because Obama wants to socialize everything including amnesty to all that can manage to crawl across the boarder and then pretend they belong here, and the ones that dont need to work (arent any jobs anyway) because they will be the recipients of the wealth this "president" is redistributing (code word for socialism).......ya, Im sure they all agree with you

[fat6man]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.


Strong Eagle - If you think we should let all these illegals in the USA YOUR FRIGIN STUPID!!!
Most of the illegal will never work but will expect entitlements which they have not earned.
The ones that do work will be taking jobs from others in this country and probably never pay a dimes worth of Tax.
I think all you damn bleeding heart Liberals should foot the bill for all these illegals!!!!

You can teach ignorance but you can't fix stupid, but guess we could pray for a Miracle when it comes to guys like you.

[Walküre]

Most of the illegal will never work but will expect entitlements which they have not earned.
The ones that do work will be taking jobs from others in this country and probably never pay a dimes worth of Tax.

And you have facts and proof to back this? Fox news doesn't count...

It's so easy to say words like that, without any basis, such as "MOST of the illegal will never work", which is blatantly false, and "The ones that do work will be taking jobs from others in this country". The migrant farm workers are asking the unemployed to take their jobs!! I doubt there will be any takers, but you can...

...Sign up here...

http://www.takeourjobs.org/

R

[Bobbo]

Most of the illegal will never work but will expect entitlements which they have not earned.
The ones that do work will be taking jobs from others in this country and probably never pay a dimes worth of Tax.

And you have facts and proof to back this? Fox news doesn't count...

It's so easy to say words like that, without any basis, such as "MOST of the illegal will never work", which is blatantly false, and "The ones that do work will be taking jobs from others in this country". The migrant farm workers are asking the unemployed to take their jobs!! I doubt there will be any takers, but you can...

...Sign up here...

http://www.takeourjobs.org/

R

It seems that beliefs like those expressed here are usually based on simple prejudice mixed with a little bigotry and paranoia.  While there are examples of what is described, they are usually in the minority rather in the majority.  I doubt statistical data exists to prove either way.  This type of propaganda is usually used to influence more simple minded people to vote a certain way, or take some other action.  Obviously, this isn't limited to any particular group, culture, or race.

[RoadKill]

"While there are examples of what is described, they are usually in the minority rather in the majority.  I doubt statistical data exists to prove either way."

Statistical data does not exist because it helps no political agenda. It happens..just not very often and as long as it doesnt affect me it can continue with out any reason to stop it. If it were to affect me I would just pay up gladly,offers my daughters for sacrifice,drink some kool-aid,AFTER paying my taxes and emptying my bank account into a "slush fund" to help me sleep well, knowing I have helped the less fortunate. And then those conservative crazy types can take the country back but I am going to drink up and stick my head back in the sand so that it does not affect me any more.


     Just because you dont hear the voices...doesn't mean they are wrong   

[fat6man]

Bottom line is the people coming accross our borders without proper papers are here illegally and this needs to be addressed. To bad the majority of our present government administration does not view this as a serious problem along with the damn liberals that are willing to give away and turn their heads. Ignoring this will not cause it to cease.

[PAVALKER]

Got this in email the other day and it might be appropriate to slip in here, beings the original subject has kind of shifted to this topic.....

Bankrupt and let's get a handle on this asap

A Real Eye Opener
WHY  is the  USA 
BANKRUPT?


Informative, 
and mind  boggling!




You think the war in Iraq
is costing us too much? 


Read this:

Boy, was I confused. 
I have been hammered
with the propaganda
that it is the Iraq war
and the war on terror
that is bankrupting us.


I now find that to be
RIDICULOUS.


I hope the following
14 reasons
are forwarded over and over again
until they are read so many times
that the reader gets sick
of reading them. 


I also have included
the URL's for verification
of all the following facts..




HEY SENOR....

1.
$11 Billion to $22 billion
is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments.
Verify at:
http://tinyurl.com/zob77


2. 
$2.2 Billion dollars a year
is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC,
and free school lunches
for illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML


3.
$2..5 Billion dollars a year
is spent on Medicaid
for illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML


4.
$12 Billion dollars a year
is spent on primary and secondary
school education for children
here illegally and they cannot
speak a word of English!
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt..0.HTML


5.
$17 Billion dollars a year
is spent for education for
the American-born children of illegal aliens,
known as anchor babies.
Verify at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML


6.
$3 Million Dollars a DAY
is spent to incarcerate
illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML


7. 
30% percent of all
Federal Prison inmates
are illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML


8. 
$90 Billion Dollars a year
is spent on illegal aliens
for Welfare & social services
by the American taxpayers.
Verify at:
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML


9. 
$200 Billion dollars a year
in suppressed American wages
are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI%20PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML


10. 
The illegal aliens in the United States
have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that
of white non-illegal aliens. 
In particular, their children,
are going to make a huge
additional crime problem
in the   US ..
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML


11. 
During the year of 2005
there were 4 to 10 MILLION
illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border
also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens
from Terrorist Countries..
Millions of pounds of drugs,
cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana,
crossed into the US
from the Southern border.
Verify at:
Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht


12. 
The National policy Institute,
estimated that the total cost
of mass deportation would be between
$206 and $230 billion
or an average cost of between
$41 and $46 billion annually
over a five year period.'
Verify at:
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/PDF/deportation.PDF


13. 
In 2006 illegal aliens sent home
$45 BILLION in remittances
to their countries of origin.
Verify at:
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm


14.. 
'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
Nearly One million sex crimes
Committed by Illegal Immigrants
In The United States .'
Verify at:
http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml http://ww/%20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml


The total cost is a whopping
$338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME
HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING
THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY;
IT IS
$338,300,000,000.00
WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH
TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY
FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.
Are we THAT stupid?




YES,


FOR LETTING
THOSE IN THE
U.S.CONGRESS
GET AWAY WITH
LETTING THIS HAPPEN
YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!

[Bobbo]

This would be more credible if it included something other than mostly dead links and links to agenda based websites.

[DIGGER]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.

now in todays news Obama next income tax time is going to make you pay income tax on your jobs insurance program.  Yes, if your employer pays about $800 a month for you and your family health insurance like my employer does the govt is now going to include that benefit in your overal income tax and I will be paying somewhere around $2500 a year more in income tax.  So I will be taking about a $220 a month more out of my disposable income to pay more income tax.  You keep rooting for him.....is time in office is short lived.

[Bobbo]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.

now in todays news Obama next income tax time is going to make you pay income tax on your jobs insurance program.  Yes, if your employer pays about $800 a month for you and your family health insurance like my employer does the govt is now going to include that benefit in your overal income tax and I will be paying somewhere around $2500 a year more in income tax.  So I will be taking about a $220 a month more out of my disposable income to pay more income tax.  You keep rooting for him.....is time in office is short lived.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/health-care-law-and-w-2-forms/

[Mickey Runie]

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

While you're shooting fish in a barrel there Troll, why don't you tell us how employers report LIFE insurance premiums they pay on behalf of employees?  

Google it.   Hurry.  


I read the new tax code regarding healthcare premiums.  -  It is EXTREMELY CONFUSING, to say the least.   It reads both ways.   I haven't seen any definative answers from the IRS on how they are indeed going to handle it.

But I will say, Uncle Barry's goon squad could make do with a simple Y, N in a block to verify per W-2 whether or not each employee was, indeed, being covered by insurance.   There's no good reason why they would need amounts.   Seems like a very big intrusion into each individuals' personal life to me.

[Billy]

Bobbo, your acoustics are destroying the loving echo chamber in here. This is your last warning before I start calling you names.

[DIGGER]

Obama is the best president to come along in a long time, and I say my prayers every day, thanking God, that some dipsh*t Republican didn't make it to the Oval Office.

now in todays news Obama next income tax time is going to make you pay income tax on your jobs insurance program.  Yes, if your employer pays about $800 a month for you and your family health insurance like my employer does the govt is now going to include that benefit in your overal income tax and I will be paying somewhere around $2500 a year more in income tax.  So I will be taking about a $220 a month more out of my disposable income to pay more income tax.  You keep rooting for him.....is time in office is short lived.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/health-care-law-and-w-2-forms/

Shooting fish in a barrell?????  Bobo I don't think you could hit a whale in a bathtub.

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

[DIGGER]

ck this one out


Oil Spill Timeline

[..]

ck this one out


Oil Spill Timeline

Digger there's an 84 day version available at the same web site.

[Bobbo]

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

If you enjoy wallowing in the filth of Internet propaganda, you are free to do so.  It would be appreciated if you didn't visit that drivel on this board.

[DIGGER]

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

If you enjoy wallowing in the filth of Internet propaganda, you are free to do so.  It would be appreciated if you didn't visit that drivel on this board.

[DIGGER]

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

If you enjoy wallowing in the filth of Internet propaganda, you are free to do so.  It would be appreciated if you didn't visit that drivel on this board.


ohhhh......I seem to have struck a nerve.....I'm sorry.......

[x]

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

What I do get about you, Digger, is that you are a man of no integrity.  You would lie to achieve your ends.  You accept lying as an acceptable course of action.  I'd never hire a man like you and I hope I never have to transact business with you.  You're a good example of what is wrong with this country.

PS:  Obama is doing a great job cleaning up the sh*t left by his predecessor.

[DIGGER]

you just don't get it do ya.......we all know that most of this internet crap is a little white lie but as long as it discredits Obama I could care less....I mean.....the politicians lie all the time for political gain.   As long as these internet accusations keep the sane people fired up against the oval office idiot the less chance he has of getting back in office and the sooner we get him out of office the less damage he can do for this country.   He is absolutely ruinning this country.  So if a little small fasehood helps add fuel to the fire I'm all for it......oh.....by the way......I heard Obama is gay too.

What I do get about you, Digger, is that you are a man of no integrity.  You would lie to achieve your ends.  You accept lying as an acceptable course of action.  I'd never hire a man like you and I hope I never have to transact business with you.  You're a good example of what is wrong with this country.

PS:  Obama is doing a great job cleaning up the sh*t left by his predecessor.

ck it out next November

[Chrisj CMA]

PS:  Obama is doing a great job cleaning up the sh*t left by his predecessor.

Ya, that excuse is getting old....especially because most of the ones that caused the "sh*t" as you say are still there and still causing it, and "president" Obama is riding the corruption and tax and spend wave high just like many before him. The only thing  new is that hes doing it MORE.

And Obama lies all the time to get his agenda done.....and YOU hired him....lol....sorry

[Bobbo]

Guess what Bobbo it aint your forum and you don't make the rules here.

I never suggested I make rules here.  As I said, "It would be APPRECIATED" meaning it would be more enjoyable for many readers if they weren't showered with propaganda.

Remove the high drama from the video and the rest is pretty factual. Unless you can specifically point out where it isn't?

I haven't commented on a video, so I'm not sure what you are referring to.