Inzane 17

DYNA3000 problem or not?

Started by Gear Jammer, Wed 21, Jul 2010, 10:34:27

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Gear Jammer

I'm running the DYNA3000 set on #5.  No problems until yesterday.  After traveling over 3000 miles to and from Inzane, the bike died on the exit ramp for my last fuel stop ( and no Highbinder I was NOT out of fuel!) .  Fueled up, and then started the bike.  It was running very poorly,  as if it was starving for fuel.  I ran up the throttle and set the cruise to keep it running.  It ran for maybe 15 secs or so, and then the RPM's went sky high until I released the cruise.  It did this several times, and then smoothed out to "normal' .  I then left and within a mile it started to run badly again.  I inadvertently discovered that if I downshifted and kept the RPM's above 3500 it ran smoothly, but if allowed to drop under that it returned to the rough running and missing.  No backfires or sputters, just rough.  Before I got home ( about a 50 mile trip from fuel stop) it had started to run pretty much normal again.  My first thought was fuel starvation until I discovered the 3500 RPM factor.  So I'm wondering if I've become a victim of the notorious DYNA3000 "Make sure you keep your OEM  ICM with you in the saddlebag" issue I've read about on this board ?  I'm thinking maybe the Texas heat got to it and caused it to start failing intermittently.  This morning after sitting overnight, it seems to be running normally again.  I have not gone out riding to check out it's on-road performance yet.  Any other explanations will be gratefully accepted, as will possible fixes.



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Dag

I had more or less indicated problem with my first Dyna 3000.
The engine died and it seemed like it was starving for fuel.
I sent it back to manufacturer and got a new module in a week. This is two years ago, and I have not had any problems since.
I always have the original ignition module in the side bag
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

dreamaker

I had a Dyna 3000 before and from time to time the bike would act like it was running out of fuel. But I would  shut the bike off and restart it would be OK. I don't recall who it was, but they told me when lived in a warmer climate they had issues with their Dyna 3000 and after they moved to a cooler area they didn't have issues with the Dyna any more. So we figured it may have been overheating the Dyna. It was suggested to take the Dyna out of the boot so the module would not retain the heat and get better air flow.

Dan

Gear Jammer

Thanks Dag and Dreamaker !  You both have had similar issues with mine, and I'm assuming we're on the same page.  I know one member posted about fabricating a ICM cover from aluminum to help dissipate the heat more efficiently.  I may be doing something similar soon myself.  But keep those suggestions and theories coming guys, the more the better  :cooldude:



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Dag

I'm sure that the temperature was not the issue here.  :roll:
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

Gear Jammer

hmmmm, seeing the " :roll: " with your post, and knowing you've been to the great state of Texas, I'm wondering about just how serious you're being here.  You need to come on down in July or August Dag to fully experience this Texas summer !  It's hotter'n   :evil:  here !!



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Farther

I think Dag was referring to where he lives not Texas.  Although knowing some Texans I am not suprise that you would think that everybody is talking about Texas. ;D
Thanks,
~Farther

Gear Jammer

Quote from: Farther on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 13:52:02
I think Dag was referring to where he lives not Texas.  Although knowing some Texans I am not suprise that you would think that everybody is talking about Texas. ;D

After reading your post, and then re-reading Dag's; I think you got it right.  I took him to mean that "temperature is not the issue here" as in "here in my problem".....   but I'm surprised to learn that not everybody is talking about Texas ?!!  ???   :roll:



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Jabba

Has it gotten wet?  I had a Dyna 3000 failure and got a replacement.  It's been 6 years in the replacement (in a ziplock bag to keep it dry) and no trouble at all.

Of course here it's only Indiana hot.  95 and humid lately.  Not Texas Hot.

Jabba

Dag

Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 16:16:05
Quote from: Farther on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 13:52:02
I think Dag was referring to where he lives not Texas.  Although knowing some Texans I am not suprise that you would think that everybody is talking about Texas. ;D

After reading your post, and then re-reading Dag's; I think you got it right.  I took him to mean that "temperature is not the issue here" as in "here in my problem".....   but I'm surprised to learn that not everybody is talking about Texas ?!!  ???   :roll:

:)  I was thinking of the temperature here in Norway when I had the issue with my Dyna 3000.
How old are your unit? I know there was some problems with them a few years ago.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

Gear Jammer

Quote from: Jabba on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 17:24:11
Has it gotten wet?  I had a Dyna 3000 failure and got a replacement.  It's been 6 years in the replacement (in a ziplock bag to keep it dry) and no trouble at all.

Of course here it's only Indiana hot.  95 and humid lately.  Not Texas Hot.

Jabba

Wet?  hmmm good question.  We did find some rain off and on.  I'll keep your ziplock bag in mind. Thanks Jabba.  I almost met you at Inzane. You were 3 people ahead of me in the dinner buffet line, but I had my hands full at the time  :D



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Gear Jammer


Dag, I don't know how old it is, I bought it used.  Supposedly came off a bike with several thousand miles, but you never know.  



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

98valk

Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 11:45:48
Thanks Dag and Dreamaker !  You both have had similar issues with mine, and I'm assuming we're on the same page.  I know one member posted about fabricating a ICM cover from aluminum to help dissipate the heat more efficiently.  I may be doing something similar soon myself.  But keep those suggestions and theories coming guys, the more the better  :cooldude:

that was me. not a cover but attachment bar instead of the oem rubber cover.
here are some pics. hope I do this right.



1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Jabba

Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 19:15:47
I almost met you at Inzane. You were 3 people ahead of me in the dinner buffet line, but I had my hands full at the time  :D

Which trip thru?  You don't get to be called Jabba by making only 1 run at a buffet!  :)  :2funny:

I bought my Dyna  3000 from Doc Moose 6 years ago and it promptly failed.  When I sent it back to Dynatek, they upgraded me to the new(er) one.

Jabba

Gear Jammer

Quote from: CA ExhaustCoatings on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 19:28:30
Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 11:45:48
Thanks Dag and Dreamaker !  You both have had similar issues with mine, and I'm assuming we're on the same page.  I know one member posted about fabricating a ICM cover from aluminum to help dissipate the heat more efficiently.  I may be doing something similar soon myself.  But keep those suggestions and theories coming guys, the more the better  :cooldude:

that was me. not a cover but attachment bar instead of the oem rubber cover.
here are some pics. hope I do this right.





By what means did you attach the ICM to your bar?  and the bar to the bike?



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Gear Jammer

Quote from: Jabba on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 20:01:45
Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 19:15:47
I almost met you at Inzane. You were 3 people ahead of me in the dinner buffet line, but I had my hands full at the time  :D

Which trip thru?  You don't get to be called Jabba by making only 1 run at a buffet!  :)  :2funny:

Jabba

LOL,, it was the first trip,,, but the absence of  brisket when I got to the empty dish may now have an explanation    :roll:   ;D



"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

stude31

You guys crack me up!  ;D

Bobby,  

If you "think" you are going to get in there and do some modification to the boot of your dyna3000 you have got to be kidding!  :2funny:   After seeing the "craftsmanship" of the wiring system for that bike there is no way in  :evil: you will be able to fit all that shiat back behind those pretty black and yellow side covers.   :roll:  Oh if only everyone could see for themselves the birds nest under that bike.  :D  I was trying to locate his zumo power cord that went from the handlebar into the fairing (gobbs of wires wraped inside that fairing also), and then down under the tank and into what I would call "the black hole".  I would just end the chapter with  "Bobby's Law"  the end!  

But, if this helps get you moved over to colorado use it!!!!!! too hot for my bike to run down here so we need to move!   :cooldude:

Jabba

Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 21:16:00
LOL,, it was the first trip,,, but the absence of  brisket when I got to the empty dish may now have an explanation    :roll:   ;D

Nope.  Didn't touch the brisket... 

I even drag my stocj ICM around on the IS, which has a stock ICM.  Just in case...  When the Dyna3000 tried to strand me, I was SO happy I had the spare, I carry it ALL the time now.  Switching it back and forth between the standard and the IS.

Jabba

98valk

Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 21:12:57
Quote from: CA ExhaustCoatings on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 19:28:30
Quote from: Gear Jammer on Wed 21, Jul 2010, 11:45:48
Thanks Dag and Dreamaker !  You both have had similar issues with mine, and I'm assuming we're on the same page.  I know one member posted about fabricating a ICM cover from aluminum to help dissipate the heat more efficiently.  I may be doing something similar soon myself.  But keep those suggestions and theories coming guys, the more the better  :cooldude:

that was me. not a cover but attachment bar instead of the oem rubber cover.
here are some pics. hope I do this right.





By what means did you attach the ICM to your bar?  and the bar to the bike?


the side screws on the dyna are for attachment purposes. front of bar attached to the battery/storage case bolt to frame connection. the rear of bar, just nut and bolt into the storage box.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798